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05/26/2005


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road.jpg George Bush knows exactly what he's doing in most of his speeches — spreading propaganda, and here, he admits it: "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." Audio.

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  1. I'm no fan of Bush, but IMO this is a misreading of his statement.

    Read the line again very carefully, IN CONTEXT. "Catapult" is being used here in a pejorative sense, the opposite of "sink in."

    Bush is well known for his slips of the tongue; "catapult OUT" is what he probably intended, which would have unambiguously made it the rhetorical opposite of "sink in."

    Then, "propaganda" makes perfect sense in this context as the opposite of "truth."

    Now reread the sentence in this light. As you can see, Bush is stating that his repetitive truth is what drives out propaganda (ie, from his opponents).

    All you lefty extreme Bush haters out there would be well advised to not make to much hay of this as a result. There really isn't anything here except a very minor speech gaffe. Yawn.

    Posted by: Cassius | May 26, 2005 1:50:20 PM


  2. Sorry Cassius, the incorrect grammar of Bush's statement makes your entire point moot. "Lefty extreme Bush haters" can make as much hay as they want, even if it is for horses.

    Can I just say Bush's flimsy grasp of the English language horrifies me the most?

    Posted by: charles | May 26, 2005 3:11:33 PM


  3. I think bush fried too many brain cells with blow. Anyone else see that tape of him from when he ran for govenor in texas and still had a brain? Hard to believe, but he was alert and articulate...

    Posted by: liberal server | May 26, 2005 3:18:58 PM


  4. That's right Cassius blame the liberals for everything. You elected a man who can not speak the language clearly. He allows the truth to slip out and you blame the liberals. I thought conservatives were about being responsible for themselves not blaming others (except the liberals)

    Posted by: Donald | May 26, 2005 3:44:44 PM


  5. Wrong Donald. I, Cassius, am a Libertarian. I have never voted Republican, or for that other political party whose last president betrayed us gays, and signed into law Don't Ask Don't Tell, and the Defense of Marriage Act.

    But thanks for playing, though.

    Posted by: Cassius | May 26, 2005 3:49:06 PM


  6. Thanks Cassius for clearing that up I apologize for calling you a conservative. I agree not two of Clinton's better moments. Is it possible to be Libertarian and still beleive that government can make peoples lives better? Because I often fall somewhere inbetween. You're welcome I like to play.

    Posted by: Donald | May 26, 2005 4:18:27 PM


  7. PS
    Great name by the way. I, Cassius just rolls of the tongue. Very classical.

    Posted by: Donald | May 26, 2005 4:21:26 PM


  8. Well geez Donald, I love to get into that question but...its a biggie. Even us Liberarians ourselves are all over the map on the question of exactly what FEW things the government can do better than the private sector.

    AND it is so off topic from Andy's original post that feel a bit self conscious about digressing so far, at least in this thread anyways.

    But, the short answer to your question is yes.

    Posted by: Cassius | May 26, 2005 4:32:09 PM


  9. Libertarian = I voted for Bush and now I regret it.

    C'mon Cassius, if that is your real name, lay down your attitude and step off the holier than thou train...give me a break. The smarmy way that you attempted to dissect Bush's comment gives you up for what you really are...a Libertarian.

    Posted by: Wayne | May 26, 2005 6:09:35 PM


  10. Wayne...sigh.

    The first words I said up there were "I'm no fan of Bush" were they not?

    And did I not later say I never voted Republican?

    I'm sorry folks to have to say this AGAIN, but I am a card-carrying Libertarian, I did not vote for Bush (or Kerry).

    It looks like I may have to keep speaking this truth over and over again; its the only way to catapult OUT the propaganda people like Wayne are spreading about me. Sigh.

    Posted by: Cassius | May 26, 2005 9:26:03 PM


  11. So sorry for my mistake! What I meant to say was:

    Libertarian = Wasted Vote

    Get off your ass and make a difference for a change. It's easy to sit on the sidelines and blame everyone when you "support" candidates and platforms that have absolutely no way of moving forward. It's the greatest excuse in the world...and by acting like it raises you above everyone/everything else it actually lowers you lower than I saw you before.

    Posted by: Wayne | May 27, 2005 8:31:17 AM


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