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road.jpg 29%: Bush approval rating continues to sink...

road.jpg A round-up of reactions to the stunning revelation that the National Security Agency has been "data mining" and collecting information with regard to phone communications by "tens of millions of Americans" in the interest of fighting terrorism.

road.jpg Howard Dean issues mea culpa on DNC's gay rights platform after NGLTF sends back $5,000 donation. Despite Dean's correction, NGLTF sends back the money anyway and its executive director explains: "We need for Governor Dean to demonstrate real leadership on our issues. Not to equivocate depending on the audience."

road.jpg Anti-gay Kentucky Governor Ernie Fletcher indicted on misdemeanor charges of conspiracy, official misconduct and political discrimination.

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  1. Yet another example of the spineless and wishywashy democratic leadership... heart's in the right place but the spine and testicles are somewhere else.

    Posted by: Brian | May 11, 2006 10:36:51 PM


  2. Our democracy falls yet further down the abyss.


    Posted by: Rad | May 12, 2006 8:45:45 AM


  3. I think we need a gayocracy!

    Sure, we'll all be sleeping with one another and talking about everyone else behind their backs, but really is that worse than what we have now?

    (I'm so totally kidding, just generalizing for the joke!)

    I know due to the current climate it may not be good for a canidate to say "Y'know, gay people should have full rights, they aren't sinful in the eyes of the government (church and state are separate still), and we should really just move beyond this as there are other HUGE issues to tackle."

    I mean c'mon... please?

    Posted by: Rob (lrdarystar) | May 12, 2006 8:56:36 AM


  4. Let's not be surprised, folks. Mr. Dean made the same sort of comments during the Democratic Primary race. In fact, I remember trying to call NPR to complain about his total lack of knowledge of church history when he said that marriage has always been a sacrament and, going back to the middle ages, the only marriage was one done in a church. Wrong!!! Anyway, I'm quitting the Democratic Party after less than six months. I am going to talk my man into marrying me in Ontario, by Dog. Raymond, are you still reading? Any thoughts?

    Posted by: JT | May 12, 2006 9:06:15 AM


  5. To my fellow Canadians

    We must close our border with the U.S.A. now!

    President Bush has declared all citizens of the United States as suspected al Qaeda agents.

    We thank God that America had the foresight to re-elect this fine man to a second term. We here in Canada thought this a grievous error, but we now see it as part of God's plan.

    Remembering that Mr. Bush is a respected world leader, we take this threat from the citizens of the U.S. seriously. We are relieved to learn that he has taken the correct "first" steps by collecting all phone records. We can only hope that secret arrests and a complete control of the press/Internet are next, followed by suppression of all left wing agitators such as women, gays and scientists.

    Mr. Bush, do what you have to do. Anything to stop this serious threat from our "friends" to the south.

    Posted by: protogenes | May 12, 2006 9:19:59 AM


  6. You'd never see those losers at the HRC making such a bold move.

    Posted by: Marco | May 12, 2006 10:06:04 AM


  7. Let's all take a breath about Howard Dean. 1st, do we really think he didn't know what the platform said about gay marriage/rights? Get real, he makes a mis-statement and the gay world goes crazy and even returns the check. And during all this hoopla, Howard Dean gets back on primetime and in print to talk about the misstatement and.........what ever he wants. This is politics, he throws a bone to the conservative Dems. and fires up the liberals. Howard.....you go girl!!

    Posted by: David in Iowa | May 12, 2006 12:40:48 PM


  8. 29%

    Posted by: Chad Hanging | May 12, 2006 8:58:51 PM


  9. The government now has a database of every number we've ever made or recieved.

    Posted by: Chad Hanging | May 12, 2006 10:17:58 PM


  10. Okay maybe just the past few years.

    Posted by: Chad Hanging | May 12, 2006 10:19:12 PM


  11. >>NGLTF sends back the money

    I'm glad they let the spineless S.O.B. know that our votes can't be bought.

    Posted by: Jay Croce | May 13, 2006 11:00:53 AM


  12. I would like to make a few points regarding the Bush administration's secret telephone monitoring of tens of millions of Americans:

    1. This type of monitoring is inefficient. If you're looking for a needle, making the haystack bigger doesn't make sense. It creates a ton of false alarms. It's a waste of time, a waste of resources, and let's the real terrorists run free. It only provides an illusion of security. Is there a terrorist anywhere who didn't suspect his calls might be monitored? Especially with John Ashcroft announcing, every time he upped the terrorism alert level, that they'd picked up "chatter" of something in the works. Why would a terrorist use the phone? Evil is not synonymous with stupid.

    2. Once you've designed a "terrorist net," its application will expand. It will start with journalists, then expand to pedophiles and child abductors. And then we'll be off to the races. Democrats, liberals, pro-choice advocates, gays, Quakers. We know that some of those are already spied upon. The end result will be a society with each individual monitored 24/7, because the whole operation is a beast that will always demand that one more category of data.

    3. It's costly. According to the Post, it is a "multi-billion-dollar program." An exact cost, of course, will never be pinned down because it's operating in the shadows. But it's safe to assume with this administration's track record that it's in mind-blowing, borrowed from your great-grandchildren funding territory.

    4. It's been lied about repeatedly. This fact alone should give pause to all Americans. Common sense should tell us that you only lie if you suspect you're doing something wrong. Otherwise, come clean on the extent of the program and justify it to citizens.

    5. Given the fact that it's being touted as the largest database in the world, it's highly unlikely we're simply talking about logs of phone calls made. It's probably not targeting just who you called and who called you. Emails, instant messaging and text messaging are also possible data being tracked.

    6. Blackmail opportunities are ripe. Government employees, politicians, employees of subcontractors - all could conceivably have information, not necessarily on you, but on, say, your Congressional representative that would guarantee votes and legislation not in your best interest.

    It's "un-American." This level of spying is just plain creepy, especially since there's no oversight.

    Posted by: Victor | May 14, 2006 12:39:15 PM


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