01/29/2007
Indianapolis Colts Coach Tony Dungy Honored by Anti-Gay Group
Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy is being honored at a fundraiser for The Indiana Family Institute, the state's most fervently anti-gay group, with close ties to James Dobson's Focus on the Family.
Given the photograph on the invite here, with Dungy pictured in his coaching uniform, I wonder if the Colts and NFL know they're implicitly endorsing this organization?
One more reason to root for the Bears in Superbowl XLI!
More on the IFI at Bilerico...
Posted 3:40 PM EST by Andy Towle in Football (American), Gay Marriage, Indiana, News | Permalink
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"He is as homophobic as all the black christians are."
Well I am sure he is as homophobic as the worst black homophobic christians are ... and black homophobic christians are such a ugly human condition. Such a lesson for all humans. Like germans who followed the Nazi party. Black Americans today so close to the civil rights era and the current day bigotry... for blacks to be anti-gay, is just one example of how ugly HUMAN - not black - HUMAN nature is.
THIS SUNDAY history will take place. A black coach will win the Superbowl for the first time! Lets PRAY it is not Tony Dungy ... but then I dont know much about the other man. BUT GO BEARS ... Manning is a whiney prick.
Posted by: RJP3 | Jan 30, 2007 8:57:12 AM
RJP3,
So because there is a rumor about Dungy's son, you decide it must be true? If you just dogged out Dungy for speaking to the group, then you would be on solid ground. But your rantings about his son's sexuality prove how silly you are.
peace
Posted by: James | Jan 30, 2007 9:32:37 AM
From what I've read, it's groups like IFI that probably played a role in his son's decision to take his own life. The same thing happened here in DC years ago with Brit Hume's son. These fathers don't realize that they prop up the very organizations and beliefs that led to such extreme tragedy in their own lives. sad....
Posted by: dcguy | Jan 30, 2007 9:46:04 AM
Hmmm I think comments are a place to share ideas --- I am not all knowing ... I said it was a rumor. Rumors are usually based on some reality. That information is shared with you and take from it what you will. After the years I have lived on earth ... very very few celebrity rumors seem to turn out false.
Still believe this one. Rings true.
Either way he is a christianist bigot. HE HAS A LONG WORKING RELATIONSHIP with this bigoted group. Look it up.
This PC crap you people post is LAME.
Posted by: rjp3 | Jan 30, 2007 9:51:32 AM
RJP3,
You are funny. Now it's a rumor. Here is what you said:
"The not to bright man's son KILLED HIMSELF because he was gay - and the HATRED this man expressed and maybe the hatred spread by his church leaders.
Religion and a religious man drove a gay man to suicide.
Now this shit can't accept that his son was really gay. So he blames gay society for "confusing" and "leading astray" his son."
No where in this screed is the word rumor. You presented it as fact as if you are all knowing. Heck we don't even know Dungy's ideas about gays and lesbians. He gets no points talking to these folk, but if he goes and says we have to love our gay children then what will you say? My point is simply this: there are tons of rumors but not one fact. That is not PC, by the way. Just smart.
peace
Posted by: James | Jan 30, 2007 10:25:58 AM
Thanks for the repost ... go intellectually masterbate to someone else ... the facts are the are good legs to this rumor. While your busy denying the obvious... look up right wing Christianist Brit Hume's son - he was gay "allegedly" and blew his head off. Hmmm Christinists and Gay Suicide. No link there. You know ... you cant believe everything you read in the comments section and I dont feel the need to do foot notes.
Posted by: RJP3 | Jan 30, 2007 1:54:44 PM
repsonse to SUSAN ... said it was rumor ... go try to impress elsewhere
Posted by: rjp3 | Jan 30, 2007 1:56:28 PM
RJP3,
You are so childish. Really. You say something is a fact. Get called on it. Then say "don't blame me. It's a rumor." Now it's your right to believe in rumors and to be childish, but some of us like facts. Sorry about that buddy!
Posted by: James | Jan 30, 2007 2:34:22 PM
Facts are useful but without the ability to reason from them to draw logical conclusions they remain unconnected data. James Dungy's story is all too familiar to too many of us who have witnessed gay youth suicides. Societal bigotry at large is horrible enough but compounded by familial religious zealotry becomes unbearable for many. Be thankful James et al. that you have not had to endure the pain of loss of a gay brother who thought he could not face his parents' religion-based disapproval and yet not change something so fundamental to his being as his sexual nature.
Posted by: rudy | Jan 30, 2007 2:51:02 PM
Rudy,
Please stop with the melodrama. All I'm saying is that we do not know why the kid killed himself. I know way too well about young gay kids killing themselves, but to assume James Dungy's tragic death came about because he was gay is simply wild conjecture.
Posted by: James | Jan 30, 2007 3:16:33 PM
James, My life is not melodramatic and I have never treated it as such. Your snide little hissy fit is inappropriate and immature. Although you appear intellectually incapable of drawing reasonable inferences and lack life experience upon which to draw do not ascribe your failings to others.
Posted by: rudy | Jan 30, 2007 9:01:13 PM
Rudy,
You are right. I am snide. But I have to confess your holier than thou screed was over the top and filled with melodrama. What "reasonable inferences" are you referring to? The young man's sensitive nature? So being sensitive is now the monopoly of gay kids? You've never heard of a straight kid who mothers adored and was also sensitive??? Maybe you lack those "life experiences" you speak so highly of.
All I have said is we have no idea why the young man killed himself. Now if that is too complicated for you, then there is not much I can do. Be well.
peace
Posted by: James | Jan 30, 2007 11:15:55 PM
James, And all I expect of those who comment here is to think before writing but that is obviously asking you to do something new and unfamiliar. Ad hominem attacks, as you so amply demonstrate, are the last resort of intellectual cowards, your signature closing notwithstanding.
Posted by: rudy | Jan 31, 2007 1:30:22 PM
So, now we can't cheer for the Colts because of this? Does everything have to be a big political statement? I'm a gay male and support our rights, but taking sides in a football game? Please! Someone needs some thicker skin.
Posted by: Greg | Feb 3, 2007 1:34:09 PM
If anyone has seen teh movie, "The Shipping News". You will remember that the media and newpapers wil suplant clues. In Dungy's sons case they say his "Girlfriend", but also sensitive and gentle. They'er guilty, but may be right. Regardless, he's gone, let it be. I will say as a black, young, educated, gay, and mother loved male that the black community is very overwheling prud of their intolerance on social issues. Pick a topic and they will vote no citing religious right, but let Shanikia get pregnant. Let their Heisman trophy winning son do drugs, knockup chicks and marry outside his race...they're collective silence could be compared to crikets in the forest. I don't like sweeping generalizations , but I am a gambling man. I will bet you if you line up 10 blacks, nine will aggressively deny the rights of others 9 to 1. "People who forget the past are condemn to repeat it." Colored are no different.
Posted by: Ariel | Feb 5, 2007 4:48:33 AM
Oh Rudy you wound me sir. Right to the heart. An "intellectual coward." The horror, the horror. Hopefully one day I will be able to attain your high standards. Be well brother.
peace
Posted by: James | Feb 5, 2007 8:22:35 AM
James, You are too lazy to engage in a meaningful discussion. Continue to refuse to think and your misplaced (and grammatically incorrect) hope will avail you nothing.
Posted by: rudy | Feb 5, 2007 2:56:30 PM
Rudy,
Well let's do this: why don't you just tell me what to think because it seems as if you can't handle being disagreed with. I'm waiting for your talking points brother.
peace
PS: Congratulations to Dungy and his Colts for winning the Super Bowl.
Posted by: James | Feb 5, 2007 3:06:11 PM
James, I do not care to dictate your opinions, but you must think before you post,if you actually want to engage in a conversation. Others disagree with me daily in my profession but they do it in a thoughtful and logical manner. I am paid to teach others how to analyze, how to draw logical inferences and conclusions, how to construct a defensible and cogent argument, and how to successfully advocate a position. Your posts exhibit none of these qualities. Accordingly, your sophomoric (I suppose you intended sarcasm) suggestion that I provide you with talking points would not benefit you, in contrast to those who pay me to prepare talking points on complex technical and legal issues. Your posts amply demonstrate your inability--intentional or not--and deliberate unwillingness, to think. Unlike others with whom you may associate, I am not willing to indulge you when you lapse into your, by now well-established, pattern of intellectual sloth and stolidity.
Posted by: rudy | Feb 5, 2007 5:18:22 PM
Oh yeah. No melodrama there! None. You are such a bag of wind. Go in peace Rudy. Go in peace.
Posted by: James | Feb 5, 2007 5:26:31 PM
To RJP3 -
1) DO NOT belittle or trivialize my name! I referred to you by the exact name you posted, I expect you to do the same - or is a sexist lack of manners an expected mainstay of your social skill set?
2) You did indeed initially present your rumor-based argument as fact; you were caught, and you are now caught up in your own net of misinformation.
3) You are patronizing, mean-spirited and rude.
Congrats Tony and Peyton on a well-deserved win.
Prince ROCKED!
Posted by: Susan | Feb 6, 2007 3:18:10 AM
James, You have successfully hijacked this thread with your cocoon of ignorance. Because you are unwilling or unable to think you have made this about you rather that Tony Dungy supporting a group whose teachings--I surmised--contributed to the suicide of his son. I will eventually be proven correct; you have proven indolent. Just go. And sing Kumbaya with yourself.
Posted by: rudy | Feb 6, 2007 6:57:10 AM
people have mentioned homophobia throughout the thread. now, what does "phobia" mean? a phobia is a fear or something, not a hate of it. get your vocabulary straight, uneducated liberals. and next question: is it a wrong to be scared of something? No, its not wrong to be afraid of something, people can not control their fears.
and oh yeah by the way, i think its great that Tony Dungy is giving money to the IFI. he hasa right to his own personal opinion. gay people have a right to be gay, and we have a right to have our own opinion too.
also:
by TYLER:
"Are gay men and women so easily offened and need validation, that they just can't stomach the idea that the world does not revolve around gay rights? maybe, trying to blend in and not forcing and looking under every rock for a bigot would be a better route to equality."
tyler put it very well. im Catholic and dont go around looking for people who hate catholics so i can start a fight over it. but every time someone doesnt bow to the gay agenda, they take great offense like "what, you mean the world doesnt revolve around us and other people are actually allowed opinions nowadays too? we didnt know that."
kudos to Tony Dungy, and not giving to the pressure of the liberal media.
Posted by: Joey | Feb 7, 2007 10:54:45 PM