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Larry Craig Incident Puts Closet Case Cruising Under the Microscope

Major Darryl Tolleson, Atlanta Police Dept. on sex in public restrooms in Atlanta: "You would think that it would be a gay issue but more and more, overwhelmingly, we're seeing that these are people with families." That's the key information in this story - it's the ashamed closet cases that are the problem.

Of course, Kyra Phillips tries to drag the unrelated topic of pedophilia into the picture, for no apparent reason except to link it to gay men.

Matt Foreman of the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force released a statement yesterday, bringing up a great point at the end: "What’s up with elected officials like Senator Craig? They stand for so-called ‘family values’ and fight basic protections for gay people while furtively seeking other men for sex. Infuriating pathetic hypocrites. What more can you say? There is sad irony that a United States senator from Idaho has been caught up in the same kind of thing that destroyed the lives of dozens of men in Boise in the 1950s, so tragically chronicled in ‘Boys of Boise.’ And by the way, why are Minneapolis tax dollars being used to have plainclothes police officers lurking idly in airport restroom stalls?"

And here's video of Craig's statement to the press, which I posted yesterday.

Pam Spaulding has posted a poll from WingNutDaily over on AmericaBlog. She writes. "These GOP closet cases who cannot reconcile their carnal desires with their desired orientation ('straight') are the real problem."

Well said. Here's a lovely article from ABC News with the misleading headline 'how gay men cruise for sex'. Not some gay men. Not shameful closet cases. All of us. The misinformed demonization begins!

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  1. Just noticed: Will you stop making links to that horrible Pam Spaulding?! What is she? Some horrid overweight lesbian plopped on her butt in that godawful hick ghetto Durham, NC, who searches the internet for bad things to say about other people (whites and males) she doesn't like in nicer parts of the country. What credibility is that? Tell her to clean up her own Durham first: the Michael Vick supporters, the murder rate, her joining the gay activists joining with homophobic black activists and a corrupt Durham PD to frame the Duke lax 3 (which is why the city is getting its pants sued off next month). One Matt Hill Comer is worth a hundred of that bitter Durham doofus. Stop linking to her before we all lose credibility. Please.

    Posted by: Joe T. | Aug 29, 2007 5:44:20 PM


  2. Landis : I disagree, as I think the media is, overall, more Left-leaning. But I admit it's hard to guage. We'd have to look at every media outlet, every newspaper, etc., in the country and check and double check facts, etc., etc. I still think the best way to read the news is to always always always have in the back of ones mind that the source might be slanted either Left or Right, and try to discern facts. Also, most important, is remembering that both Left and Right media sources will omit more than actually lie: focusing on stories that fit their overall agenda and ignoring present (or later) stories that counter them.

    Posted by: Joe T. | Aug 29, 2007 5:53:39 PM


  3. Actually, Joe, it is not as difficult to measure as you believe. Virtually NO "independent" newspapers or local TV or radio stations do their own reporting on "national" news stories or events beyond the geography of their readership, and there are fewer and fewer independent newspapers, even among the gay press. Conglomerates dictate what all of their papers, maybe thousands of miles apart, will say about such issues. Even huge, successful papers, like "The Washington Post" and "The New York Times" run articles written by others such as the staff of the Associated Press syndicate which is more often than not writing from the perspective of the "status quo" which is always more "conservative" by definition.

    For all the cable/satellite TV entertainment options, most people still get their national and international "news" from the four TV networks and CNN and MSNBC, and the latter is just a 24-7 expression of the philosophies and biases of NBC itself. And, even more than local newspapers, local TV stations simply replay the text copy and film feeds about the political parties and the economy and, yes, the gays, they get from the networks they're affiliated with. The nefarious exception was when the Bush administration got caught with its proverbial pants down at couple of years when it was revealed they were sending out free pre-packaged videos to local stations on such stories as Social Security made to appear objective but merely marketing the administration's positions.

    As mentioned above, Eric Alterman studied and documented the way it actually is, focusing particularly upon the 2000 election and the very different treatment a virtual unknown, George Bush II, got than Gore—even by media typically identified as "liberal." From his book:

    "The question of whose interests the media protects—and how—has achieved holy-grail-like significance. Is media bias keeping us from getting the whole story? If so, who is at fault? Is it the liberals who are purported to be running the newsrooms, television and radio stations of this country, duping an unsuspecting public into mistaking their party line for news? Or is it the conservatives who have identified media bias as a reliably inflammatory rallying cry around which to consolidate their political base as they cynically “work the refs?” The media has become so pervasive in our lives that regardless of exactly where on the ideological fence you sit, the question of media bias has become all but unavoidable.

    Most of the criticism (and anger) has so far emanated from the political Right, which has offered us the rather unconvincing argument that a systematic Left bias is destroying the quality of news and debate in our country today.

    What Liberal Media? confronts the question of liberal bias and, in so doing, provides a sharp and utterly convincing assessment of the realities of political bias in the news. In distinct contrast to the conclusions reached by Ann Coulter, Bernard Goldberg, Sean Hannity, and Bill O’Reilly, Alterman finds the media to be, on the whole, far more conservative than liberal, though it is possible to find evidence for both views. The fact that conservatives howl so much louder and more effectively than liberals is one significant reason that big media is always on its guard for “liberal” bias but gives conservative bias a free pass.

    After reading What Liberal Media? you will understand that the real news story of recent years is not whether this newspaper, or that news anchor, is biased but rather to what extent the entire news industry is organized to communicate conservative views and push our politics to the right—regardless of how “liberal” any given reporter may be.

    Posted by: Michael Bedwell | Aug 29, 2007 8:01:36 PM


  4. Michael: Indeed, but that's still just Alterman's take on it and his own theories. But I'll take him into account and get around to familiarizing myself with him more.

    Posted by: Joe T. | Aug 29, 2007 8:15:20 PM


  5. The one thing that the "American" people don't get is that you go to any gay dating site, and half the men are married and many are over 50. One of these days hopefully people who are same gender loving will be able to do just that and without hate and judgement and people won't have to be "straight" acting to get by.

    These guys are to be pitied more than anything else, but, at the same time need to be outed, and hopefully with a mug shot when gay bashing.

    Posted by: Luke | Aug 29, 2007 10:36:07 PM


  6. Police is using plain clothes officers because there are children using those restrooms as well.

    Posted by: JC | Aug 30, 2007 8:49:55 AM


  7. There isn't a gay man alive who hasn't cruised for sex. Whether it's online, in a bar, at the gym, during a circuit party, at church, at the store, or elsewhere, we've all done it. I think Sen. Craig is a hypocrite but I disagree with gay commentators who want to distance themselves from his type of behavior. He's no better, or worse, from the rest of us in that regard.

    Posted by: amlish | Aug 30, 2007 1:57:30 PM


  8. Except for his unfortunate, unnecessary, and I believe inaccurate, labeling of the media as "liberal", I FULLY co-sign with the statement of my friend RB.

    Regardless of the real or perceived political leanings of the mainstream press, they ALL spin these stories to stereotype gay people and sensationalize reports about the misadventures of people (who claim to be straight), in order to demonize and scandalize out and proud gay people who have never participated in such activities.

    The REAL story about the harm caused by homophobic societies and the closet, NEVER seems to get told. The story of the hypocrisy of those who claim to be most righteous gets turned into a side story. Somehow the media (liberal and conservative) ALWAYS finds a way to turn these stories into scare pieces on how the average homosexual man trolls around in bathrooms.

    I'm with ya RB but drop the liberal media jive. It unnecessarily diminishes an otherwise brilliant observation.

    Posted by: Zeke | Aug 30, 2007 3:36:41 PM


  9. Except for his unfortunate, unnecessary, and I believe inaccurate, labeling of the media as "liberal", I FULLY co-sign with the statement of my friend RB.

    Regardless of the real or perceived political leanings of the mainstream press, they ALL spin these stories to stereotype gay people and sensationalize reports about the misadventures of people (who claim to be straight), in order to demonize and scandalize out and proud gay people who have never participated in such activities.

    The REAL story about the harm caused by homophobic societies and the closet, NEVER seems to get told. The story of the hypocrisy of those who claim to be most righteous gets turned into a side story. Somehow the media (liberal and conservative) ALWAYS finds a way to turn these stories into scare pieces on how the average homosexual man trolls around in bathrooms.

    I'm with ya RB but drop the liberal media jive. It unnecessarily diminishes an otherwise brilliant observation.

    Posted by: Zeke | Aug 30, 2007 3:38:14 PM


  10. Dear Amlish:

    I'm 26, been gay all my damn life, and I have NEVER witnessed this kind of weirdness in a public restroom, ever. Not like I haven't gone out and tried to get laid, but that's exactly why we have gay bars and gay campus centers and coffee shops where we can actually, oh, I don't know, meet someone the normal way, and have a drink or two and a conversation before hooking up. And oh yeah, we're out as gay people and aren't leading double lives with a wife and kids waiting at home, and we actually find out first what the other guy is into, rather than peeping in at him in the bathroom stall and then propositioning him without even knowing if he's gay or not.

    It's fucking sick, so Amlish, don't go lumping the majority of sane, open and honest gays in with this Craig scumbag. The horniest, most sexually active, but open and honest homo is doing nothing wrong, while what Craig did was disgusting. And don't act like we're unfairly judging him, because all he's getting is a taste of his own medicine - he's been judging and harming LGBT people and their families by supporting anti-gay legislation, and he's fucked up his own family with his lies. He deserves all the shit he's getting.

    Posted by: Eshto | Aug 31, 2007 1:10:16 AM


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