09/28/2007
Catholic League Launches Boycott of Miller Over Folsom Poster
Catholic League president Bill Donohue has taken his displeasure with Miller Brewing one step further than asking them to remove their logo from this year's Folsom Street Fair "Last Supper" parody poster. He has contacted over 200 religious groups and called for a boycott of the company.
Writes Donohue: "This all started when we learned that Miller was sponsoring an event that featured an obscene ad thrashing the Last Supper. After being pressured, Miller offered a lame statement of regret and said it was pulling its logo from the ad. Not only has it not done so—it is still posted on the website of the street fair—Miller refuses to withdraw its sponsorship. To top it off, when we informed them that some of the money being raised at this festival was being funneled to the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, they were unimpressed. Accordingly, Miller leaves us with no options: we are calling on more than 200 Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and Hindu organizations to join with us in a nationwide boycott of Miller beer. We feel confident that once our religious allies kick in, and once the public sees the photos of an event Miller is proudly supporting, the Milwaukee brewery will come to its senses and pull its sponsorship altogether. If it doesn’t, the only winners will be Anheuser Busch and Coors."
Donohue is also extremely excited to show off the collection of Folsom Street Fair pictures he has amassed.
(via slog)
Background
Miller Pulls Logo from Folsom Ad Over "Last Supper" Parody [tr]
CWA Not Happy with "Last Supper" Ad for SF Folsom Street Fair [tr]
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Posted by: homer | Sep 28, 2007 11:26:44 AM
Don't these idiots who are condemning this parody, realize that it is based on a PAINTING of the so-called Last Supper? It's not like it's a damn photograph.
Posted by: Andrew | Sep 28, 2007 11:28:25 AM
Most of the Catholics I know drink box wine.
Posted by: crispy | Sep 28, 2007 11:28:54 AM
He's calling on Muslim groups, too, to boycott Miller beer? Idiot...if they are religious Muslim groups, they are already boycotting the beer since they don't drink.
Posted by: KBS | Sep 28, 2007 11:30:01 AM
BTW Bill, thanks for the pics on your website-they are HOT. See you there!
Posted by: Andrew | Sep 28, 2007 11:31:12 AM
Too late; the fuel is already in the fire.
I think the Folsom Street coordinators are nothong but self-serving idiots, the Christians Reich (you remember them, they're the ones already in political office in practically every grass-roots community across the nation) are stirring.
This is going to get REAL ugly and the rest of us, by association of the simple fact we are gay, are going to have to pay the price for the stupidity and short-sightedness in San Francisco.
Posted by: Rad | Sep 28, 2007 11:35:31 AM
I think it's the sexy brotha' as Jesus that he objects to...wish I could see under the table.
Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Sep 28, 2007 11:35:43 AM
imagine if these do-gooders actually delegated this amount of energy and time to do good charitable things... then they might receive heartfelt respect, rather than being seen as misguided holier-than-thou fanatics.
Posted by: A.J | Sep 28, 2007 11:38:56 AM
If the Folsom pictures weren't enough entertainment, there is also an enormous collection of essays on his website vindicating Pious XII for his role in the holocaust. He's got all of his wingnut bases covered.
Posted by: J | Sep 28, 2007 11:39:50 AM
"we are calling on more than 200 Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and Hindu organizations to join with us in a nationwide boycott of Miller beer."
Why the hell would jews, muslims, and buddhists care about this? Is the unifying factor the 'thrashing' of the Last Supper or is it a shared dislike of homosexuals? Funny how an assumed shared anti-gay bias always seems to bring temporary peace between some of the most bitter religious rivals (namely Christians and Muslims). I wonder when the last time Christians boycotted something that offended Muslims... but of course when they're offended, everyone should get involved.
I guess I'll be drinking more Miller than usual now...
Posted by: Wes | Sep 28, 2007 11:40:15 AM
man, that catholic group guy looks like he could take that big pink dildo on the table up his ass! Squeal piggie!!
Posted by: dc-20008 | Sep 28, 2007 11:41:01 AM
RAD...
You are correct. It always comes back to us. The everyday fag. Backlash is a bitch.
Posted by: Andrew | Sep 28, 2007 11:41:14 AM
Derrick I agree.
Inwardly their upset is probably more over a muscular brother playing their jesus myth.
Anyway; damn the poor, damn the hungrym damn the homeless, damn the children.....lets get upset over a picture and waste money and energy over that instead of actualy helping people in need. (snark)
It is past time to tear down the vatican and toss all those homophobic child molestering parasites out into the streets and pelt them with flaming bags of doo doo.
RAD, they would still want to electro shock and chemicaly cure you wether this pic existed or not. Don't play at being their minstral.
Posted by: jimmyboyo | Sep 28, 2007 11:42:53 AM
Typical, that this closeted Catholic would hoard and post all these photos of Folsom. What a perv, he's probably masturbating to those pictures as we speak.
Catholics and their latencies make my skin crawl. Fucking come out of the closet and leave the rest of us alone!!
Posted by: Mark | Sep 28, 2007 11:43:31 AM
Who cares - - I mean, are there any Catholics left?
Posted by: Matilda | Sep 28, 2007 11:44:43 AM
Andrew, so when did the catholics say that if you don't rock the boat they will gladly accept you into their fictional heaven?
Wether this pic existed or not they would still bash you. Grow a pair of balls and stop liking their asses
Posted by: jimmyboyo | Sep 28, 2007 11:44:52 AM
It's absolutely heart warming that hate could be the catalyst to bring the world's religions together. (insert tear here)
Posted by: Brian | Sep 28, 2007 11:51:11 AM
Jimmyboyo, thank you-but my balls have already dropped. I am an ex-catholic, so I have dis-associated myself from them a priest molestation ago. I will agree with you about one thing. The muscular 'bro' has peaked my interest in the Church of good lookin'. BTW-the Catholic Church would have never accepted me anyway-my parents are Jewish.
Posted by: Andrew | Sep 28, 2007 11:53:06 AM
Andrew and RAD, they don't care if you're abercrombie-wearing fags or leather wearing fags. If people are going to be free to engage in sexual activity that doesn't hurt anyone else and is between consenting adults -- you know the argument used to prove that gay sex is not illegal -- then you can't bad mouth people who are into stuff you aren't.
Posted by: nycredneck | Sep 28, 2007 11:53:59 AM
Jimmy:
You know I've always admired your wit and your courage, but you aint taking me to hell with you. The good Lord aint "a myth". I just believe he has a sense of humor--just like any other gay guy.
Posted by: Derrick from PHilly | Sep 28, 2007 11:54:17 AM
Blah. Blah. Blah. If the Catholic church spent more time living their "religion" than forcing it down everyone's throats, the latter wouldn't be necessary.
Posted by: not easily offended | Sep 28, 2007 11:58:41 AM
I doubt if that Catholic Crazy's call for a boycott would bring much action. (Besides, that Miller beer is NAST-EEE!)
Posted by: Allen | Sep 28, 2007 12:01:21 PM
What you can't see from his headshot is that there is a naked alter boy bent over his knee.
Posted by: Chris in Seattle | Sep 28, 2007 12:02:00 PM
Mr. Donohue is showing what a mindless mouth piece he is. Most conservative right wing religious people don’t drink alcohol. There are many conservative counties in the South that are dry which means that you can’t buy alcohol in that county. Budweiser is also a big supporter of the Gay community. So his boycott will be useless.
Mr. Donohue will say and do anything to get attention. I don’t think he actually speaks for the Catholic Church so I don’t know why he get’s so much attention.
Posted by: ELI | Sep 28, 2007 12:03:36 PM
Yup. If they were true Christians, they would have turned the other cheek. period.
But of course, they might wind up getting flogged or paddled.. hehe
but enough about my fantasies...
Posted by: Darren | Sep 28, 2007 12:05:47 PM
I just love the poster. I hung up my leather drag a long time ago, but I will be there in spirit. And thanks Bill darling for the wonderful publicity. Who knows how many "virgins" will be inspired to display there wares this Sunday? It will be a cavalcade of sexual delights. Viva the Folsom Fair!
Posted by: the queen | Sep 28, 2007 12:07:33 PM
WHOOHOOO! Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I'd be getting my mid-morning gah-gah's from the Catholic League (for Religious and Civil Rights...but not YOURS)'s official website! You know, they didn't even post the obligatory NSFW! Just a "WARNING. EXTREMELY GRAPHIC CONTENT BELOW" title which could mean anything...like a trip through ebaumsworld.com.
What an official douchebag you are, Bill Donohue. To think, I could've gotten fired from my job! Oh, but I own the company. Nevermind.
RAD honey, get out of the fuckin' Kool-Aid. Sure, we've all tasted it before, but you're swimming in the goddamned punchbowl.
Posted by: FizziekruntNT | Sep 28, 2007 12:09:24 PM
nycredneck-
When did I say I wasn't into that?
I'm just stating the obvious. Maybe I didn't make it very clear. No matter what WE do, whether it be boa wearing, cod-piece licking, partner marrying, senate holding-whenever the uber right gets hold of an 'extreme' story like this, they pull every gay person into it. THEY call it 'abnormal' behavior. I call it-good times had by all. However, it still rains down on the gay population as a whole. Like we are all the same. Better?
Posted by: Andrew | Sep 28, 2007 12:10:28 PM
Look at all these dity pictures I took at the Folsom Fair. In this one two men are doing unspeakable things - see, I captured it from EVERY angle I could - becuase I was shocked, shocked I tell you.
And look at this one, and oh this one, and did you ever see anything so perverse in your life?
~Click ~ Click ~Click~
Posted by: FASTLAD | Sep 28, 2007 12:10:36 PM
I think it is interesting that he apparently objects to money going to The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. The Sisters actually do good work.
Posted by: peterparker | Sep 28, 2007 12:15:02 PM
OK. That's it. I'm boycotting Catholics. I'm only doing Jewish men from now on.
Posted by: Cliff | Sep 28, 2007 12:15:51 PM
You like 'em cut, hunh, Cliff? Brother Zeke told me over a year ago not to limit myself. Skin is good for you...yep.
Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Sep 28, 2007 12:21:42 PM
I'm w/ you PeterParker. I never knew much about the Sisters until I finally sat and talked to one at a bar. I was really amazed at all the work they do. I had always just assumed they were mocking Catholic nuns.
you can find out more about the SF order here:
http://thesisters.org/
Posted by: gabriel | Sep 28, 2007 12:30:33 PM
Since the Catholic League (whom, btw, really doesn't have near the clout they would like to think, and does not speak for the Catholic Church)has been so kind as to give us the PR contact at Miller. We should encourage her to keep up the good work of supporting fun and diverse events such as Folsom. green.julian@mbco.com
Posted by: jtg | Sep 28, 2007 12:35:17 PM
When I managed an upscale Westwood/LA hotel 10 years ago, a distinguished man rented a permanent suite on the penhouse floor. He was the U.S. liaison for the Vatican. Mr. D (a different "D") also entertained young lads (18+) quite extensively.
Posted by: Jack Scribe | Sep 28, 2007 12:37:16 PM
The don't call Donohue "God's Rottweiler' for nothing! For Catholics, though, the issue of the picture is more complicated because under church doctrine, even those depicted are part of the body of Christ, or can assumed to be, unless they've done something unforgivable, such as have an abortion or committed suicide. Mere sex acts, by themselves, are not generally condemned. Catholics are not Protestants, in other words. I don't even thing blasphemy applies because Christ isn't actually being depicted. However, one could hardly expect nuances from a PR hungry crowd like this! Donohue made a name for himself defending the Church during the molestation scandal by essentially blaming the victims--and jews. Much fun, he.
Posted by: anon (gmail.com) | Sep 28, 2007 12:40:05 PM
I'm sure Miller is shaking in their (leather) boots. Let's see, who drinks more beer? Leather men, or the Catholic League? Hmmm... tough question. Beer often figures into the leather fiction that I've read, but not so much in the bible. I think Miller knows where their drunk bread is buttered.
Posted by: Gregg | Sep 28, 2007 12:40:42 PM
Dickweed.
I'd say we should all go out and buy cases of Miller to show our support, but, it is Miller after all.
Posted by: stolidog | Sep 28, 2007 12:58:02 PM
If the Catholic League can ever gets its priorities correct then perhaps they'll put as much time/energy/resources into condeming war/violence,reducing poverty and unconditionally loving their fellow human beings? Until that happens I'll be in San Francisco enjoying the sun,naked folks,mediocre street food,dancing and the other very erotic sights and sounds.
Since there isn't supposed to be an official Halloween celebration in the Castro this year then this Street Fair and it's HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of participants are going to be having fun. Bravo to those who are not afraid of human sexuality in all its many beautiful expressions.
Posted by: SFshawn | Sep 28, 2007 1:00:09 PM
derick
LOL
:-)
Posted by: jimmyboyo | Sep 28, 2007 1:06:08 PM
A giant ice-penis? Gay geisha nuns? Chaps and leather jockstraps? Can any of this be taken seriously?
All that leather/BDSM/whatever stuff is just costumes and games. It's like cops and robbers with no pants on. This shit is silly.
Who cares?
Posted by: max | Sep 28, 2007 1:07:20 PM
I'm an East Coaster and have never been to the Folsom Fair..it looks HOT, thanks Catholic League for peaking my interest...Does anyone in the NYC area know where can I get an ice sculpture of a penis..? It's for...ummm, a report I'm writing.
Posted by: Davey | Sep 28, 2007 1:08:00 PM
Oh andrew
You are screwed 3 ways from sunday in the eyes of the catholics then
1- gay
2- apostate ex catholic
3- of Jewish decent
Ouch. Then why did you agree with Rad?
Just curious
Posted by: jimmyboyo | Sep 28, 2007 1:08:04 PM
OMG!!!! I can't believe Catholic League has those shots on their website. THAT IS HILARIOUS!!!! Some of the shots are downright EROTIC!!! WTF? I don't even know what to say. That just cracks me up!
Posted by: JR | Sep 28, 2007 1:17:38 PM
San Francisco is certainly different than anywhere else. This sort of thing won't raise an eyebrow there. They don't consider how it will play in the rest of the country--which is one of the things I love about S.F.
The Catholic League and CWA will make an issue of anything so if it wasn't this it would be something else. They will make money off of it and then it will go away. Miller will probably not suffer greatly though they may reconsider sponsoring events like this (though I suspect gays drink as much or more beer than Catholics). I also think the vast majority of Catholics don't know about or listen to the Catholic League.
The danger is that we go all conservative and try to shut down those factions of the gay community with which we're uncomfortable. There is no point in having freedom of speech if we're afraid to use it.
Posted by: db | Sep 28, 2007 1:18:15 PM
Andrew -
no, it only trickles down in the eyes of people like the catholic league...so who cares? If you aren't secure in the type of person you yourself project, then yes having public pictures of people who are into leather who happen to be gay (there are str8s into it too) will disturb you. It's called being insecure. I bet you hate flaming boys too, cause they make your straight friends think you're a big ole nellie.
Posted by: nycredneck | Sep 28, 2007 1:28:13 PM
I wish someone would publish photos of the Catholics at work, molesting children, torturing the innocent during the inquisition, fleecing old people at bingo, profiting off of volunteer labor to pay for the popes apartments and furs not paying taxes and traveling around the world by private jet to preach hate. Just more Catholic love, it’s all around us.
Posted by: ggreen | Sep 28, 2007 1:43:10 PM
Thanks for having the courage, Rad, to buck the "party line." Those with a pathological need for attention like the Sisters of Perpetual Self-Indulgence, drags generally, and the butch drag queens into leather always feed off the naive living in gay ghettos, even if only in their minds. Such clowns learn very quickly that if they "do good works" most will be distracted from the fact that parading their need to shock only plays into the hands of those who use them as examples to demonize us.
This Halloween I think I'll go as Jeffrey Dahmer chewing on some kid's arm or leg or John Wayne Gacy with a shovel in one hand and teenage boy mannequin in the other. It's free speech, right?
Posted by: Bob | Sep 28, 2007 1:46:14 PM
"This is going to get REAL ugly and the rest of us, by association of the simple fact we are gay, are going to have to pay the price for the stupidity and short-sightedness in San Francisco. "
Oh NOES! Bill Donahue and the CWA are gonna tell us we're bad and going to hell! I see pitchforks! Torches! Anita Bryant is about to sing!
Oh, wait, they do that ANYway. Every YEAR. Without FAIL. From what cave on Saturn did you emerge, sunshine? And you do realize that the crowd at FSF is no longer exclusively gay, but plenty of hetero BDSM folks fly their freak flag as well?
Don't you get that even if we were to sit very quietly in a dark basement somewhere with our hands on the table, we would somehow still manage to offend them by our very existence? These two entities are not seeking accommodation with fags, they are seeking our "rehabilitiation" or our invisibility. Queers should be neither seen nor heard.
Moreover, what seems to have completely passed people by is that this is a parody of a long line of parodies of a work of art by Leonardo Da Vinci who, you may recall, liked boys.
I am not about to start seriously considering the opinion of a homophobic anti-semite like Bill D. here. I strongly hope others reach a similar conclusion.
Posted by: AG | Sep 28, 2007 2:11:41 PM
Do fundies drink a lot of beer in the first place?
Posted by: RP | Sep 28, 2007 2:21:53 PM
You know, being a Brit I hadn't even heard of the Folsom Street Fair until this fuss began. Nice of the god-botherers to give it some extra promotion.
As far as trying to be "respectable" goes: does anyone really believe that these people would be happy if gay men and women were meek and mild and never spoke out of turn. Wakey, wakey, they don't want us to exist at all.
BTW, the photos on the Catholic site are by the same person that did the Last Supper photo.
Posted by: John C | Sep 28, 2007 2:23:58 PM
NYCREDNECK, you really aren't getting what I'm saying. I'm VERY secure with who I am. My straight, nelly, flaming, butt-plugging, etc. friends will tell you that.
Posted by: Andrew | Sep 28, 2007 2:25:58 PM
BOB,
If you are ashamed of gay men who dress in drag in order to raise money for people with cancer and people with HIV/AIDS, then you are a sad, sad case. As someone who is licensed to practice psychotherapy by the State of California, I recommend about two years of therapy (twice a week) for you to clear up that nasty case of internalized homophobia that you display with your post here in this thread.
Best of luck to you.
xo,
peterparker
Posted by: peterparker | Sep 28, 2007 2:26:50 PM
No, RP, they drink
...wait for it...
*insert drum roll*
CHAMPAGNE! *queue Star Spangled Banner*
Enter: Joe Solomonese
Posted by: FizziekruntNT | Sep 28, 2007 2:29:34 PM
"Such clowns learn very quickly that if they 'do good works' most will be distracted from the fact that parading their need to shock only plays into the hands of those who use them as examples to demonize us"
Given that the "good works" that the Sisters do include charities to make life better for people who've fallen through the cracks and that those who are "demonizing us" like Bill Donahue and the CWA try to pass laws to ensure that people will continue to fall into them -- be they gay families, adopted kids, blaming the teens for being molested by priests, or saying that Jews hate Catholics -- I really think you should more carefully consider who you're trashing and why.
I will risk "demonization" by such bigots. It shows I'm doing something right.
Posted by: AG | Sep 28, 2007 2:34:02 PM
Oh Peterparker, now you're just talkin crazy talk
HeHe I had to do it!
Posted by: ELI | Sep 28, 2007 2:35:45 PM
Ok guys lets drink Miller. Lets show our support. No more Buds for me, from now on is Miller Lite. And you know is delich. Never knew it.
Posted by: Oscar | Sep 28, 2007 2:51:43 PM
Leave it to the Catholics to boycott a brewery. The Baptists wouldn't dare.
Posted by: Vi Agara | Sep 28, 2007 2:57:10 PM
The protest by the Catholic League is an outrage. This image, which decayed for several hundred years in a Milan church (restored only recently), is Leonardo's DEPICTION of the last supper - it is not an Christian relic - it's a piece of art from 1498. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of take-off's of this image. Some very profane. This is not an "obscene ad thrashing the Last Supper." It has nothing to do with the actual last supper. The Catholic League does not "own" this picture, but finds an accuse to protest when sexuality is displayed. And this parody is so mild - all they are they thinking is P&R for their organization. Disgusting.
Posted by: dave | Sep 28, 2007 3:01:57 PM
GGREEN's comment was right on. Where are the photos of all the Catholic atrocities? Seriously, someone should make a project of taking some "historical" photos of various moments of the Catholic Church's history and post them on a website. That would be fantastic.
Like I noted somewhere else yesterday, the photos of Folsom that the Catholic League posted seem to be ripped from Folsom's site. I can't imagine that they have permission to reproduce them. Someone should sue the fuckers already.
I can’t wait for Sunday! My very first Folsom as a newbie San Franciscan!
Posted by: AdamN | Sep 28, 2007 3:19:24 PM
Since you're recycling the same inanities that you did in a previous thread, Parker, I'll repeat part of my response to your bullshit about "internalized homophobia." Those equating being gay with S&M etc. are just as wrong and just as stupid as the CWA and their ilk. If one hates gay child molesters does that mean one hates being gay? Does condemning gay serial killer Andrew Cunanan mean you have internalized homophobia? How about all the knocks against gay Republicans? That must mean gay Dems hate themselves for being gay.
Being gay has zip to do with any subcultures among gays, which change over time and concurrently vary from country to country, region to region. It doesn't equate with drag whether that means lace OR leather. Whether those are "right" or "wrong" is irrelevant. It doesn't equate with artistic preferences. You might find a disproportionate number of gay men at a performance of grand opera, but you'll also find some at the Grand Ole Opry. Etc. Etc. It isn't even about specific sex acts because not all gay men are into the same ones. It's solely about sexual and emotional attraction to the same gender and
any licensed psychotherapist so recklessly painting it as more than that to justify his own attractions to kink should go into a different field.
You're being equally dishonest about those "who dress in drag in order to raise money for people with cancer and people with HIV/AIDS." The illogical conclusion of that is that they couldn't raise such money without the drag, when, in fact, the urge for attention via drag as Bob mentioned is what actually drives them.
Gacy, whom he mentioned, was a hero in his neighbor for the block parties he threw dressed as Pogo the Clown. He was such a popular figure in Chicago Democratic politics that he was photographed with then future First Lady Rosalynn Carter wearing a high-level security clearance Secret Service pin. Of course, it later came out that he was simultaneously raping and murdering boys and young men. The official count was 33. The youngest were 14. He joked that the only thing he was guilty of "was "running a cemetery without a license."
OF COURSE one is NOT equating someone obsessed with killing with others obsessed with doing fem or pseudo-butch drag. But it's no less absurd to say that they have no responsibility for putting their egos above others.
As for the shallow excuse, "they'll attack us no matter what we do so why not say 'nothing matters,' 'there are no limits'?," you're going to die someday, too, but why commit suicide now?
Posted by: Terry | Sep 28, 2007 3:53:56 PM
It seems like Bill Donohue could be penalized for publishing those images without putting them behind an age-verification firewall. I mean, think of the children who can access them easily, and then turn gay!
Posted by: davitydave | Sep 28, 2007 4:08:24 PM
Here's a press release I received from the Folsom Street Events. If you feel inclined, please contact Miller Brewing Company.
Subject: Please Support Miller Brewing Company
Please support FOLSOM STREET FAIR by calling Miller Brewing Company and thanking them for their continued support of the Folsom Street Fair. In addition congratulate them for not caving to right-wing pressure to pull out from presenting sponsorship of our Fair.
We have worked successfully with this company for many years, and they have been very supportive of our community. With so much "negative" attention being paid to the Folsom Street Fair poster, we think it's important for Miller to hear from you!
Please contact Miller spokesman Julian Green at green.julian@mbco.com or call 1-800-MILLER 6 or 414-931-2000 to let them know how much you appreciate standing up for us.
Thanks for your support, and we hope to see you at Magnitude and/or the Folsom Street Fair this weekend!
Posted by: Eirikur | Sep 28, 2007 4:11:03 PM
If not for the Church BDSM would never exist.
Posted by: Richie | Sep 28, 2007 4:24:25 PM
LOL
Richie.
Funny you say that. most guys I have met in the BDSM community are1 of two groups
Catholic or Jewish.
Not saying there aren't any baptists, just saying for some reason those 2 groups churn out a ton of masochistic bottoms.
:-)
Posted by: jimmyboyo | Sep 28, 2007 4:38:17 PM
Dear TERRY,
Maybe you and BOB could find a group for gay men working on issues of internalized homophobia. If you are unable to find one, give me a shout and I'll see if Andy will let me moderate that group right here on towleroad.
Best of luck to you.
xo,
peterparker
Posted by: peterparker | Sep 28, 2007 4:45:35 PM
BE A HERO THIS WEEKEND - DRINK MILLER:
THANK MILLER BREWING.
It is easy and takes just TWO minutes!
Thank Miller At: (414) 931-2000
Thank Miller At: (414) 931-2000
Thank Miller At: (414) 931-2000
Ask the receptionist to transfer you to the Marketing Department.It is a message mailbox - leave a message of thanks for their continued ongong sponsorship of The Folsom Festival.
Let them know you will buy a 6 pack of Miller or Peroni (their Italian upscale brand) this weekend,if so inclined.
They have made great strides to support sexual freedom. Lets get Miller sales UP!
A fun "boycott" to bust.
Posted by: rjp3 | Sep 28, 2007 5:55:19 PM
Such a lame try at a rejoinder, Parker, which only amounts to repeating your ridiculous accusation which was more than adequately discredited. We're genuinely sorry you can't grasp the rather simple difference between disapproving of the behaviors of some other gays and hating being gay itself.
Perhaps like Zeke (?) someone else is simply pretending to be the Peter Parker who usually displays such insight and wisdom.
Posted by: Terry | Sep 28, 2007 6:11:24 PM
Ha, Ha....With all the "buzz" that poster has caused, the people in charge of Folsom better enjoy the party Sunday, because it may be their last.
I don't care what consenting adults do behind closed doors, but when you wave things like this in the face of Joe/Jane Public, and then take it one step further by giving them the middle finger, you better be prepared to live with the consequences. Keeping events like this on the "DL" is the only way to keep them going. This is 2007 not 1977. Images like the ones posted on the Catholic League fly around the country and invoke thoughts of twisted crimes, abuse, molestation, etc. No one can honestly say that there isn't something weird about grown men wanting to parade around in public in chainmetal jockstraps, hoods, not to mention the meat hooks and more severe "interests".
Events like Folsom are bad press for the gay community. This isn't like Sydney Mardi Gras or other events that are "all in good fun", and despite whatever empty arguments some people make this event has NOTHING to do with pride, acceptance, building bridges, charity (lol), anything constructive.
Without this poster Folsom would have gone off without a hitch and no one would have batted an eyebrow. If you don't want protests, don't send the protesters an invitation.
Posted by: Brad Donnell | Sep 28, 2007 6:17:31 PM
"No one can honestly say that there isn't something weird about grown men wanting to parade around in public in chainmetal jockstraps,hoods,etc."
To that I would say that no one can honestly say that there isn't something weird about grown men in the Catholic Church parading around in long robes,hoods and prada shoes or for that matter parading around in military attire murdering people they don't even know in the name of freedom! Don't worry Brad and those others so "concerned" about the future of the Folsom Street Fair-It's only the third largest fair in the largest state in the USA and it's here to stay.
Happy Folsom Weekend to those attending and welcome to San Francisco.
Posted by: SFshawn | Sep 28, 2007 6:29:03 PM
Brad you nitwit. Maybe if it was DC. We are talking SF here. SF which is extremly liberal. The SF people will not even bat an eye at anything there.
Rush Limbaugh called and said you are to meet him in the bathroom stall with larry craig to get your guys' freak on behind closed doors.
Posted by: jimmyboyo | Sep 28, 2007 6:54:44 PM
SF Shawn...
WOW! Lets get personal!!! Did I say a thing about the weird rituals of catholicism and other religions? I agree, they can be just as bizarre. And who the hell brought the military into this? Last time I heard they weren't allowed in San Francisco (thanks Mrs. Coyote).
Your vicious, spiteful attack reminds me how impossible it is to have a dialogue with people who have no time for other points of view - be they conservative, liberal, Christian, Muslim, etc. Oh wait...I'm sure you're a really open-minded, liberal, gay progressive. My bad.
Lastly, I could give a damn about the future of your event, but I think people who do want it to continue would probably appreciate it if the people in charge didn't have it stopped because they felt like rattling a few cages (no pun intended) just for the hell of it.
As for being the "third largest fair in the largest state in the USA" I assure you that politicians are far more interested in the voting power of Catholics (the largest church in the most populous state in the USA and the country) and "concerned citizens" then they are in a few measely dollars going into the pockets of local SF bars and businesses that cater to "fags".
So suck it Shawn.
Kisses.
Posted by: Brad | Sep 28, 2007 7:12:06 PM
Jimmy....
See my reply to Shawn.
As for the Limabugh comment I take serious issue with that. Why is it that ANYONE who doesn't whole-heartidly support a lame poster campaign is branded a fanatical conservative? Maybe its a knee-jerk response?
Posted by: Brad | Sep 28, 2007 7:31:12 PM
WTF a lot of hullabaloo over an ad. I love the the Catholic group has called on all the other religious groups to boycott Miller. As some have already pointed out, Muslims don't drink and god fearing Christians don't do that much of it either. Oh and why the heck would the Jewish be offended by the ad? They don't even believe in Jesus as the son of God so I don't think they'd care.
The person who owns the photos should send a cease and desist if s/he hasn't given express permission to the Catholic League to use them... or sue their asses for using them without permission.
I call for a boycott of religion. It's a waste of perfectly good time and has destroyed more lives than it ever saved.
Posted by: Tyroga | Sep 28, 2007 8:34:32 PM
Hey everybody!!! Look over there! Isn't that WENTWORTH MILLER????!!!!
Posted by: Becks07 | Sep 28, 2007 9:28:20 PM
Notice how he chose pictures from the Folsom site that he probably considers the most unflattering. One like this http://www.folsomstreetfair.com/photos/alley-2007/images/07UYA_4499.jpg wouldn't be provocative enough, of course.
Posted by: Brandon | Sep 28, 2007 9:56:41 PM
i don't get it...
i didn't believe christians would advocate drinking to begin with.
by the way, i highly doubt they copy and pasted those pictures with Fred Alert's permission... isn't that against actual christian doctrine, thou shalt not steal
Posted by: michael | Sep 28, 2007 11:30:25 PM
Today I traded text messages with a buddy who recently served on the board of Folsom Street Fair. He said they are absolutely loving the free publicity that this wingnut at The Catholic League is giving them. And he said Miller is continuing to back Folsom Street Fair.
Religious Wingnuts: 0
Kinky Folk: 2
Posted by: peterparker | Sep 29, 2007 2:19:26 AM
Miller is now owned by international conglomerate SAB-Miller. In addition to Miller, they have tastier beers like Peroni and Pilsner Urquell.
This whole thing is so blown out of all proportion, it is a laugh riot to me.
Posted by: So Left I'm Right | Sep 29, 2007 7:02:33 AM
Easy Two Click Activism ...
enter into address bar:
http://www.folsomstreetfair.com/fair-sponsors.php
click:
Miller Genuine Draft or Miller Lite logo
Excellent .... add up those hits show Miller the advertising is being seen.
Click around a few pages.
Maybe buy a t-shirt (Micky's brand t-shirt is cool. "Wide Mouth, Good Body").
The go buy a Miller Lite at a game.
A Micky's at the Irish Bar.
A Peroni with your italian dinner.
THE POPE:
"Homosexuals are intrinsically disordered."
"Gay Adoption is violence against children."
And they complain WE OFFENDED THEM CATHOLICS ?
Posted by: RJP3 | Sep 29, 2007 7:27:44 PM
The pictures at the catholic sight were hawt! I haven't seen such erotic flailing since "The Passion of the Christ."
Perhaps they could add a few screencaps from that holy epic film to the mix.
Posted by: marybethyl | Sep 29, 2007 8:10:33 PM
Of course Catholics don't like Folsom, it's about sex between two men - not a man and a boy........
Posted by: Joe Richmond | Oct 1, 2007 4:50:16 PM