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Pope: Gay Marriage an Obstacle to World Peace

In a statement released yesterday by the Vatican, Pope Benedict XVI ranked same-sex marriage with nuclear arms proliferation, environmental pollution, economic inequality, abortion, and birth control as threats to world peace in a message for for the World Day of Peace on January 1st, according to Religion News Service:

Pope"Presenting the nuclear family as the 'first and indispensable teacher of peace' and the 'primary agency of peace,' the 15-page document links sexual and medical ethics to international relations. 'Everything that serves to weaken the family based on the marriage of a man and woman, everything that directly or indirectly stands in the way of its openness to the responsible acceptance of new life ... constitutes an objective obstacle on the road to peace,' Benedict writes."

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  1. Oh, and I do recognize a complete distinction between spirituality (a personal relationship with a higher power of your choosing) and religion (a mechanism for 'interpreting' the will of the Flying Spaghetti Monster in an effort to get people to bend to your will and finance your multi-million dollar homes while those same people live in squalor).

    Religion = public exhibitionism of a relationship that is supposed to be private.

    Didn't Jesus say something negative about praying in public??

    Matthew 6:5-15 (New International Version)

    Prayer
    5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him."

    ...and then it launches into the lord's prayer...

    Posted by: MikeinSanJose | Dec 12, 2007 12:25:21 PM


  2. Pope Palpatine is a jerk.

    Sorry, Emperor Benedict.

    Whatever. I can't be expected to keep track of these people and their Sky Fairy.

    Posted by: AG | Dec 12, 2007 12:29:31 PM


  3. What this vile Nazi is essentially saying is that we should be wiped out—as if we were a pestilence.

    In other words: "I declare hunting season to be now open".

    Posted by: Gil | Dec 12, 2007 12:30:12 PM


  4. This one has truly nailed the box closed in my belief that organization can do anything other than divide people. Such hate coming from a person who's suppose to represent the concept of "all loving." Shame on you, ope Benedict XVI!! You DO NOT represent the God I believe in.

    Posted by: TP | Dec 12, 2007 12:40:21 PM


  5. "... stands in the way of its openness to the responsible acceptance of new life ..."

    And how is his unmarried bunch of freaks going to bring forth new life?

    So according to this reasoning, Israelites and Palestians are fighting over who's going to bottom for whom? And Darfur is nothing but muslim men f_ing up the ass their christian male neighbors? Tutsis and Hutus in Rwanda were all up in arms simply because they wanted the right to officially and publicly bed each other? Waouw! If this doesn't get my devout catholic grandma to go atheistic on his ass, I dunno what will!!

    Posted by: Shabaka | Dec 12, 2007 12:44:32 PM


  6. The Pope is a bit of a dope on this one.
    While moral order and religion go hand in hand, I fail to see a connection between same sex couples and a stumbling block to world peace.

    I agree that civil unions should be granted to these couples as I agree with the religious/moral order that a man and a woman are the only species that constitute marriage.

    Posted by: NowItMatters | Dec 12, 2007 12:51:57 PM


  7. Well said, SHABAKA. Homos are one of the main causes of all this trouble in the world. I think this Pope is recalling the early 1940s, and what can be done about "troublesome" people like homos. Heil!

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Dec 12, 2007 12:55:39 PM


  8. IS IT JUST ME OR WHAT, DOESN'T HE LOOK LIKE DARTH SIDIUS?

    Posted by: CLIFF | Dec 12, 2007 1:04:07 PM


  9. Fuck you Pope and suck my dick while you're at it.

    Gee, I typed the above a minute or so ago, waited, and looks like hell hasn't reigned over me.

    Guess it's all bullshit.

    Posted by: Marco | Dec 12, 2007 1:06:46 PM


  10. There goes my Korean skillet. Fuck you Pope Benedict!!! No Target register for you.

    Posted by: Andrew | Dec 12, 2007 1:21:49 PM


  11. I've always wondered how much more advanced we would be as a civilization if the Catholic Church (among other religions) hadn't done it's damnest to suppress scientific knowledge. How much was lost only to be "discovered" centuries later? Where would we be today if the industrial revolution had occurred in the 1300's (or earlier) instead of the 1800's.

    Posted by: AggieCowboy | Dec 12, 2007 1:40:08 PM


  12. The Pope should get his own house in order before he criticizes the families of others.

    Posted by: Erik | Dec 12, 2007 1:49:38 PM


  13. NowItMatters wrote: "...moral order and religion go hand in hand..."

    Bull$hit!! Cite your source!! Religion is a plague, a virus, "the opium of the masses". Morality and religion are not joined at the hip. One can lead a highly moral life and yet not practice any religion at all. Religiosity is no sign of morality. Hell, the past year's worth of Republican scandals is proof enough of that!

    Then, NowItMatters goes on: "I agree that civil unions should be granted to these couples as I agree with the religious/moral order that a man and a woman are the only species that constitute marriage."

    First, all human beings, male and female alike, belong to the same species: Homo sapiens. Even gays and lesbians belong to that species, believe it or not!

    There is nothing "magic" about "man + woman". There is nothing inherent to heterosexuality that makes it superior to homosexuality in any way. In my opinion it is quite the opposite. The enduring and courageous love that same-sex couples have for one another, despite society's disapproval and the de facto second-class status that ALL gay and lesbian people suffer in our country, proves that same-sex love is real and is enough reason to change the laws for the government to recognize same-sex marriages. The churches, synagogues, mosques and temples can do what they want. If people want a religious ceremony (which is MEANINGLESS in the eyes of the law, btw) then they can have it and churches/synagogues/mosques/etc. that choose to offer services to same-sex couples can do so and those who oppose it can't be forced to. They key here would be to make everyone's marriage a civil union. That way if religious people want an additional ceremony they can have it, but in the eyes of the law it is the CIVIL aspect of the relationship that matters. And, quite frankly, it is only the civil side of things that gay and lesbians are demanding. That doesn't seem too much to ask, does it?

    Posted by: Jonathon | Dec 12, 2007 1:58:19 PM


  14. Oh lord, STEPHEN is back yet again with yet another screen name "NOWITMATTERS".


    Give it up STEPHEN; we know it's you.

    Posted by: Zeke | Dec 12, 2007 2:03:32 PM


  15. You know, it is such a same that he wasn't born in the states.

    This Pope would make a such a good president.

    Posted by: bizasizzalizzyizzo | Dec 12, 2007 2:04:05 PM


  16. The Pope Nazi and all the rest of the ignorant, bigoted Christian religious zealots can go fuck themselves...

    Posted by: Robert In WeHo | Dec 12, 2007 2:20:01 PM


  17. Yeah, sure Gay marriage is as much a threat as nuclear weapons - and I'm going to get married to a man if the Pope doesn't pay me a million dollars.... mwahahahaha

    Posted by: Greg | Dec 12, 2007 6:14:00 PM


  18. Will someone please photoshop this photo. Look at his sunken eyes. If he doesn't look like the Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars I don't know who does.

    Posted by: James Poppinga | Dec 12, 2007 6:37:57 PM


  19. Our good old Benedikt! Has he to say something?

    Well not the gays started the war in Irak.
    I don't think that Dennis Koslowski is gay either - the one with the shower curtain.
    Or Kenneth Lay - Enron. The ones who wasted billions of Dollars. The subprime mortgage crisis is gay, too?
    Martha is a lesbian?
    Well Larry Craig is a problem. His double standards are. These bigots in power are a problem.

    Benedikt needs to remember that not the whole world is catholic! And thank GOD that the church has no more (or less!) influence over politicians and politics in Europe. Yes, we have gay marriage in Spain, Pacte Civil in France, Life Parterships in Germany and so MUCH more in the United Kingdom, Switzerland, Portugal, Luxemburg, the Netherlands. Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland... Hungary, Israel, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Argentina, Urugayy, Brazil, Colombia, Mexico... Did I forget anybody - sorry. And remember that the world has not come to an end (what he predicted). No, the world is BETTER!!!


    Posted by: Martin | Dec 12, 2007 7:10:22 PM


  20. Yes, and I do want to add one thing: all of my family members are Christians - Protestant for centuries or Catholic.
    My mother would rather shoot the Pope than see me unhappy.

    Posted by: Martin | Dec 12, 2007 7:45:00 PM


  21. As a disenfranchised Catholic, I say, "Fuck the Pope!"

    Posted by: davitydave | Dec 12, 2007 8:09:19 PM


  22. Fuck, Fuck, Fuck the Pope.


    I like how a Nazi pope whose followers molested boys and girls and covered it up and let AIDS spread in Africa is lecturing others about world peace and our failure to obtain it.

    Look in the mirror Nazi fuck.

    Posted by: atheist | Dec 12, 2007 8:53:49 PM


  23. Are we still talking about the pope? I thought we had moved on already...pope who?

    Posted by: Bojo | Dec 12, 2007 10:27:46 PM


  24. I am Greek Orthodox, born and raised in Athens, Greece, but have Venitian ancestory. I was sent to private schools in Venice and the Vatican. The Vatican is a beautiful place and is full of Greek and Roman are. Much of this art is homo-erotic and yet the catholic church never had it destroyed. They have all ancient Greek and Roman text translated into Italian and other newer languages. The catholis church at this time is more of a symbol and these things are said to appease the masses. The Vatican in itself is not a awful place if you visit behind the scenes. Much of the homosexual issues have to do with the female and penetration. The female menstal psycle and the act of penetrating a female has always been the forefront that men should not be femenized. The female is unclean and thus a male should not aquire such traits. The Vatican is well aware of homosexuality within the Vatican and has never made it a true issue. Being gay and loving men is not the issue as is being anally penetrated like a female and thus being a woman. We all know how women are treated in Catholicism and my religion Greek Orthodox. There are intire peninsulas in Greece where womaen can't set foot. It sounds hurtful what the pope said, but it is something that they will always say. I remember my time at the Vatican and it was a great time, but things will get worse before they get better. The world is changing, new nations like Russia, China and India are becoming the new powers and they are very homophobic. It will take the homosexual communities of the world to unite in a stronger more realistic manner in order for things to change and to remain peaceful for us. GlAAD and such organizations are losinn the battle. It will take more people coming out and stronger representation from gay leaders, not Will and Grace or Ellen. We need gay presidents, gay politicians, soldiers, actors, models, lawyers, generals in order for the overall viewpoint of homosexuality to change. Much of the world thinks that gays are stupid and ridicoulous and the but of jokes. In my country, Greeks are not homophobic but they make fun of gays on a daily basis. We need stronger representation in the world. Men are affraid to come out because it will take there masulinity away and until that changes we wont be able to exist 50 years from now. The Russian, Poles and Chinesse are all experimenting on the gay gene and how to eraticate it, its time for our revolution to begin. The question is who will take the lead.

    Posted by: H.S.H. Caligula | Dec 13, 2007 12:50:46 AM


  25. I am Greek Orthodox, born and raised in Athens, Greece, but have Venitian ancestory. I was sent to private schools in Venice and the Vatican. The Vatican is a beautiful place and is full of Greek and Roman are. Much of this art is homo-erotic and yet the catholic church never had it destroyed. They have all ancient Greek and Roman text translated into Italian and other newer languages. The catholis church at this time is more of a symbol and these things are said to appease the masses. The Vatican in itself is not a awful place if you visit behind the scenes. Much of the homosexual issues have to do with the female and penetration. The female menstal psycle and the act of penetrating a female has always been the forefront that men should not be femenized. The female is unclean and thus a male should not aquire such traits. The Vatican is well aware of homosexuality within the Vatican and has never made it a true issue. Being gay and loving men is not the issue as is being anally penetrated like a female and thus being a woman. We all know how women are treated in Catholicism and my religion Greek Orthodox. There are intire peninsulas in Greece where womaen can't set foot. It sounds hurtful what the pope said, but it is something that they will always say. I remember my time at the Vatican and it was a great time, but things will get worse before they get better. The world is changing, new nations like Russia, China and India are becoming the new powers and they are very homophobic. It will take the homosexual communities of the world to unite in a stronger more realistic manner in order for things to change and to remain peaceful for us. GlAAD and such organizations are losinn the battle. It will take more people coming out and stronger representation from gay leaders, not Will and Grace or Ellen. We need gay presidents, gay politicians, soldiers, actors, models, lawyers, generals in order for the overall viewpoint of homosexuality to change. Much of the world thinks that gays are stupid and ridicoulous and the but of jokes. In my country, Greeks are not homophobic but they make fun of gays on a daily basis. We need stronger representation in the world. Men are affraid to come out because it will take there masulinity away and until that changes we wont be able to exist 50 years from now. The Russian, Poles and Chinesse are all experimenting on the gay gene and how to eraticate it, its time for our revolution to begin. The question is who will take the lead.

    Posted by: H.S.H. Caligula | Dec 13, 2007 12:52:06 AM


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