01/07/2008
Towleroad Guide to the Tube #220
HILLARY CLINTON: Tears up on the campaign trail in an interview today with ABC.
DAVID LYNCH: He's angry about people who watch films on their phones. Really angry.
ROBERT NOVAK: While saying Obama could be threatened by "racist prejudice" Novak calls the Senator a "clean...not stereotype African American." (source: think progress)
NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS: A few undecideds speak out following Friday's debate.
RON PAUL MOB: Angry that Paul was excluded from the NH debates, an angry mob pursues Sean Hannity through the streets. (source: americablog)
BILL CLINTON: Says he can't make Hillary "younger, taller, male..."
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Wow! NH Dems are so incredibly shallow and naieve (sp?). The 90's was a great period of prosperity for all, not just a few at the top. But let's all buy into Barack's track-recordlees hope message blindly and blithely. Barack is more likely to be another Jimmy Carter than any other dem I can think of, but his squishy let's all hold hands and hope has so tapped into liberal guilt its astonishing.
Posted by: Rucka | Jan 7, 2008 5:35:53 PM
I don't give a FLIP if it is Obama Hilary John or a freeegin tree.
I just want to win: We just have to act like the Republicans if we are to hold the presidency in '08 bitches WIN WIN WIN!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: anoon | Jan 7, 2008 5:55:55 PM
Novak is a bigot... what is a "stereotypical African American"? Argh!
Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 7, 2008 5:59:03 PM
I agree with Rucka. An Obama presidency could be a big mess and after four years we could have more Repub. rule for many years. Go Hill - I'll be voting for you.
Posted by: Mike | Jan 7, 2008 6:17:50 PM
I am all about Hillary.I don't think Obama has her balls. I really dont want to lose again. Go Hillary !
Posted by: peter | Jan 7, 2008 6:26:10 PM
Go Hillary!!!
Posted by: D | Jan 7, 2008 6:34:43 PM
Neither Hillary nor Obama can win, so wake up.
Hillary crying? That plays right into the BS about a woman not being able to handle running the country. And even though Novak is a scumbag troll, his prejudice exists in many of the older voters in the US.
You really want to win? Be realistic and look at what America will actually elect.
Posted by: gay as life | Jan 7, 2008 6:37:46 PM
Umm, where exactly did Hillary cry? I saw that news splashed all over other sites, and it made me angry at her. Then I watched the clip. Yes she got remotely misty-eyed for about two seconds, nothing close to actual tears. Not to mention, she was also more sincere and likable that I've ever seen her, and she's also clearly (and understandably) exhausted. I think the media are being sexist by making it sound like she basically had a breakdown, when it was nowhere near even what Howard Dean did in 2004 (also incredibly overblown).
Posted by: Paul | Jan 7, 2008 6:47:20 PM
The more people trash Hillary the more I want to support her. I think it's refreshing to see a politician show emotion. Not like that heartless prick W.
Posted by: patrick nyc | Jan 7, 2008 6:55:32 PM
I love you Hillary!
Let's keep hope alive girl!
Posted by: Christopher | Jan 7, 2008 7:21:04 PM
This is FOX with a handpicked audience assassinating Hillary because she is our best hope forward. Rightwingers are trumpeting Barack because they really believe he could never stand against their middling candidates.
Posted by: mike | Jan 7, 2008 7:51:20 PM
Mike the entire repub machine was geared to take on clinton. they wanted to battle clinton for POTUS.
Clinton has the largest negatives. They don't even know how to attack Obama yet because they have been caught completly off guard
Put down the kool aid
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To all my other gay brothers who posted, you all will be disapointed
New Gallop NATIONAL POLL
http://www.gallup.com/poll/103615/Huckabee-Obama-Gain-National-Level.aspx
Obama and hillary are now tied 33% to 33% NAYIONALY and that is without NH (Obama ahead in all those polls by 10-13%) under his belt yet.
Hillary pre Iowa was 17% points ahead. NOT NOW and it is going to get worse since NH is a given and SC
Obama was not my first choice but I can accept reality and can find happyness in it.
You will to
:-)
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Jan 7, 2008 8:03:02 PM
White gays are the only group still with Hillary. You're both unpopular with the masses, which is why I guess that's why you're the last ones still standing with her. Go Obama!
Posted by: Lucas | Jan 7, 2008 8:06:21 PM
david lynch for president!
Posted by: muholland_drive_by | Jan 7, 2008 8:18:18 PM
Most of us don’t give a rat’s ass how Hillary Clinton feels about her electoral reverses. But a growing number don’t like her at all because of her rightwing centrist politics, especially her support of Bush’s deranged racist plan for a nuclear attack on Iran. And they look down on her for regularly voting for and thus endorsing the murders of Iraqi gays by US armed jihadist death squads.
She and all the Democrats and Republicans are a roadblock to GLBT equality, a fair standard of living, ending the war, socialized medicine and the fight against all forms of bigotry. A vote for either of them is a vote for our opponents and a wasted vote.
Posted by: Bill Perdue | Jan 7, 2008 8:18:35 PM
Hillary's supposedly smarter on foreign policy, yet on two national news shows following Bhutto's assassination, she claimed that Musharraf would be on the ballot in Pakistan's upcoming elections -- when in fact he was just re-elected in October. 'Parliament' is having an election. Joe Biden publicly chided her for such ignorance. She not too subtly corrected herself during the NH debate before anyone could rib her for it.
Any supposed foreign policy experience she has disappears in my eyes when you look at her Iraq war vote.
And I don't think enough LGBT folks know that Hillary only wants to repeal 'part' of DOMA -- she wants to leave in place the part that says states don't have to recognize same-sex marriage licenses issued in other states (when in fact the Constitution's full faith and credit clause requires states to honor each other's contracts). Obama supports a full repeal of DOMA.
Posted by: Chris | Jan 7, 2008 8:46:26 PM
Obama's lead is NH is largely because of his appeal to independent voters. Obama now polls better than Clinton in every matchup with Republicans in the general election. Despite the "race card," which the Republicans will most assuredly play in the general election (and it will backfire!), Obama can win and win big in the general election by appealing to independents and Republicans.
I watched him speak at an event long before he decided to run for president -- he is extremely intelligent and thoughtful and oozes charisma. (This doesn't come through in the "standard" stump speech that he now has to give over and over.) Everyone in the audience was practically begging him to run for president. He understands problems from a global perspective -- which is exactly what we need after 8 years of W. I decided at that point that if he ever ran for president, I'd be there. He's really an amazing guy. This is really a chance to put someone truly inspirational into the White House.
Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 7, 2008 9:09:28 PM
Why would Obama appeal to independents when he is to the left of HC on most issues?
Posted by: anon (gmail.com) | Jan 7, 2008 9:14:47 PM
who says this shows hillary as weak? That bitch has more balls than any GOP
Posted by: davey | Jan 7, 2008 9:32:56 PM
hillary iterated what i have been saying since it became known that she would be running, and that is that she is the most vetted candidate ever. the repugs and their jack-booted thug, kenneth starr, tried to eviscerate the clintons but failed. remember the phrase, "they found that there was no 'there' there" ? the only thing they didn't try was having starr perform colonoscopies on the pair.
after seeing what the slimy rove (sounds like a lewis carrol locution, huh?) and his minions did to john kerry, a legitimate war hero, i have to wonder what they will do to a naif like obama. repug operatives have already started to make an issue of barack HUSSEIN obama's alleged islamic sympathies. and what might they make of his limited experience in nat'l politics? he has, after all, been in the senate only three years (two, if you don't count 2007 -- a year mostly spent campaigning).
and, as much as i hate to agree with the traitorous, despicable novak, there are still plenty of racist, right-wing reactionaries in this country that will not tolerate an african-american as president. it is not for nothing that obama's secret service detail almost rivals that of the idiot-in-chief's.
as to hillary crying, i did not see a tear on hillary's cheek. i only saw passion in her eyes and a dedication to this country informed by 30+ years in public service. she has been a part of the running of a state government (almost 12 years), and the federal government (16+ years). anyone who discounts that and then tries to compare her resume with obama's is an idiot. to hillary, the real hope of getting a dem in the white house, and thus, the true agent for change.
Posted by: nic | Jan 7, 2008 9:33:40 PM
Her tearing was clearly orchestrated as a last ditch effort to get some votes. This moment occurred in one of my favorite coffee shops (BNG in Portsmouth), and I know there couldn't be more than 50 people crammed in there with her, she wasn't opening up. She saw it as an opportunity to reveal "a human side" to the cameras so that people would feel bad for her when they watched the news the night before the election. I do not believe that Hillary's emotional side appeared (she has been trying really hard to make emotional connections throughout NH today) the day before the most important primary election by accident.
If hillary is elected our nation will be nothing better than an oligarchy for 24 years!
Obama '08
Posted by: Nate | Jan 7, 2008 9:41:14 PM
On foreign relations 'experience"
hillary's so called experience = authorized bush to invade Iraq......and harased Obama on his pakistan stand.
Obama was right on IRAQ, as well as it turns out "prescient" on pakistan. Quite a while ago he said Pakistan was a greater problem than Iraq ever was and that he would take serious steps in going after Osama bin laden there as well as safe guarding the nukes because Musharaf was not doing his duty for what we were paying him. hillary lambasted Obama thoroughly!!!!!!!! turns out she was wrong even though she had "experience" and Obama has turned out to have been right on pakistan
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Jan 7, 2008 9:53:55 PM
PS
Lucas
I am a white boy who is now behind Obama 100%, I just wish that Edwards would be his VP
Not all white boys are clintonistas
:-)
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Jan 7, 2008 9:55:39 PM
gee, nate, thank you. it's all clear now. hillary is a power-hungry, emotionless automaton. and the clinton's as oligarchs? hmmm, what a novel idea!? true i'm sure, though, because you're familiar with that coffee shop.
Posted by: nic | Jan 7, 2008 10:08:28 PM
I'm just grateful that it seems almost unthinkable that a Repug will win, and that the top three Dem candidates---despite their faults---are all acceptable to me, and seemingly to most left and centrist voters.
Despite common claims, the notion of a woman being president isn't that crazy, given that half the country's population is female and a good portion of the other half is married to women. Even the thought of an African-American president isn't that crazy (see: Iowa election results). Certainly, sexism and racism remain horrible problems, but Hillary's intelligence and Obama's charisma are powerful forces. I just hope that the top three get along well enough for two to unite on a single ticket. Especially with his contemptible behavior since then, it would be awful if the front-runner were to choose someone like Lieberman (as Gore did in 2000) to seem more broadly palatable. Though I was intrigued by the notion of a Kerry-McCain ticket in 2004, split tickets seem impossible in reality. And McCain has since lost a large chunk of his spine. I certainly never agreed with all his positions, but I used to respect his independence. No longer.
Posted by: Paul | Jan 7, 2008 10:18:12 PM
Paging Elisabeth Kûbler-Ross!
With half of Clinton's supporters here angry and the other half in denial, it would seem that her campaign really is dead.
Best of luck to all of you in your journey through the stages of bargaining, depression, and finally, acceptance.
Posted by: 24play | Jan 7, 2008 10:50:18 PM
Fox News Sucks!
Ron Paul 2008!!!
Posted by: John | Jan 7, 2008 10:54:03 PM
I like Obama, I really do. But, I want Hillary for President. It has nothing to do with me being a "white gay" as some asshole suggested. I guess if you don't support Obama, you're a bigot now.
Hillary will come in second tomorrow, although I am hoping New Hampshire will pull through. After that, Edwards will drop off the map and it will be a slugfest for Super Tuesday. Clinton's know how to fight. Obama knows how to hope. Good luck with that.
Hillary 2008.
Posted by: Marco | Jan 8, 2008 4:21:05 AM
Hillary's problem is that she has the highest and most persistent negatives of any national political candidate. A consistent 40% state that they would not vote for Hillary under any circumstances. She has a solid base of ~30% hardcore women over the age of 55 years who would vote for her no matter who is the other candidate. To win she must appeal to independents and she is quickly losing them to Obama. Yes, she is the most vetted national candidate and that is precisely why such a sizable number of voters do not like her and are highly unlikely to change their minds. I have a theory that many young people, male and female, do not like Hillary because she reminds them of a female boss that they hated. True or not, she comes across to a majority of people (even many who would vote for her) as a cold calculating harridan. She appears mean, vindictive, and represents the past instead of the future. I did not see any tears and yes she is held to a different standard than are male politicians but that is reality. Successful female politicians, as do successful female executives, have to deal with that. Hillary has not found a means to do so that is acceptable to a majority of the American public.
Posted by: rudy | Jan 8, 2008 7:39:33 AM
Yes, Rudy. Obviously, everyone hates her.
Congrats to Hillary on winning NH.
Posted by: Marco | Jan 9, 2008 4:27:12 AM
MARCO,
you keep beating me to the punch.
saner minds prevail. you go, bato.
Posted by: nic | Jan 9, 2008 6:51:23 AM