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Bill O'Reilly: I Would Never Poke Fun at Any Minority Group, Ever

Bill O'Reilly and Wayne Besen of "ex-gay" watchdog organization Truth Wins Out (which, incidentally, just relaunched its spiffy new website) had a chat last night about the Jay Leno "gayest look" controversy. Here's a bit of their conversation

OreillyO'REILLY: "It looks to me in America that you can't ever make fun of any minority group. Ever. In any way. Anymore. In this country. I think that's where we are really. You can make fun of white Christian men. You can make fun of, famous people. But if you make fun of a minority, any minority... If you're a Jewish guy, if you make fun of Jewish people, Black people, illegal immigrants, any minority. If you poke fun at them, you are gonna catch hell. That's true, is it not?"

BESEN: "I don't think it is true. I think if you look at comedy acts there's a lot of groups being made fun of. I think there's a big difference between making fun of something they do that is funny and making fun of who they are as individuals. The simple act of being Black is rarely made fun of, but being gay is perfectly acceptable. It's a double standard."

O'REILLY: "No I don't think so. Believe me Mr. Besen, I do this every night. I would never at this point, poke fun at any minority group ever, because it is not going to be taken in the same way, someone is going to be offended, and they're going to brand you a racist or a homophobe."

Watch it, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. Oh yeah...this will be on VH1's best week ever, hopefully with another use of the "No Integrity Zone" banner they threw on the Spitzer escort report (we would never sensationalize this...up next: hot call girls tell all!).

    Posted by: DJSeanMac | Apr 3, 2008 8:27:05 AM

  2. O'Reilly makes a living by reporting controversial issues! He sensationalizes everything and NO he should not be making fun of minorities because he has no sense of humor. Somehow his comments do not resonate comedy, just anger. People without a sense of humor cannot make jokes without an underlying "tone" to them.

    Posted by: RB | Apr 3, 2008 8:32:41 AM

  3. Wayne Besen...tell me that this bloke doesn't still isn't mad for cock. What a toss.

    Posted by: Gary | Apr 3, 2008 9:06:31 AM

  4. Gary, i think you're misunderstanding who Besen is. He's not a creepy "ex-gay", but a critic of the movement.

    And Bill, no you cannot make fun of Christians, because as soon as you do, they all gather on steps somewhere in the midwest and hold hands and tremble, braying about how they are under attack for their beliefs.

    Posted by: LD | Apr 3, 2008 9:51:56 AM

  5. Oh, I can't wait for Keith Olbermann tonight. You know he's gonna give you a clip roll of Bill-O making some, eh, questionable comments about minorities.

    Posted by: Gander | Apr 3, 2008 10:01:10 AM

  6. Yeh, Wayne Besen is one of the good guys. He's the one who busted a prominent "ex-gay" man who had been on Oprah and the cover of Newsweek out cruising for cock in a DC gay bar.

    Posted by: crispy | Apr 3, 2008 10:34:25 AM

  7. Oh really, CRISPY? How the hell did I miss that episode. Can't wait to see 2day's Oprah!

    Posted by: Shabaka | Apr 3, 2008 11:00:22 AM

  8. "I think there's a big difference between making fun of something they do that is funny and making fun of who they are as individuals."

    This guy hits the nail on the head exactly. If someone makes a joke about something a minority DOES, even if it's stereotypical, it can be funny, and not offensive if you have a sense of humor about yourself.

    But what Jay Leno did, and what many late night comics and straight men all across the world do all the time is make fun of gay people JUST for being gay. "Show me your gayest face." WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? What is so funny about Ryan Phillippe playing a gay role on a television program? Being gay in and of itself is not funny.

    Leno did the same thing with James Van Der Beek when he appeared on the program to promote Rules of Attraction (which featured a gay kiss) to the point where David Spade had to step in and tell Jay to leave him alone. And the same thing when Hal Sparks was on the program.

    Posted by: Chris Evans | Apr 3, 2008 11:19:49 AM

  9. "The simple act of being Black..."

    Posted by: db | Apr 3, 2008 11:38:41 AM

  10. So straight, white, Christian males aren't allowed to make fun of any minority groups any more? What a travisty. Oh, boo. Oh, hoo. Oh boo hoo! Just goes to prove what a bunch of pussy, crybabies the Bill O's of the world are.

    Posted by: TroyTooner | Apr 3, 2008 11:42:36 AM

  11. I think there is a difference between making fun of somebody, which has a meanness to it, and making a joke about someone. We all have friends who can or cannot "take a joke", so there is a certain borderline area. Leno doesn't know the difference.

    Posted by: anon | Apr 3, 2008 2:36:33 PM

  12. Lets see now. How about visualizing Leno interviewing Morgan Freeman.
    Leno: Yeah blackie, do yo bes yassir fo me. Audience: hahahahaha.
    Now Morgan, they tell me you used to tap. Lets run that clip of you tap dancing when you first started out in showbiz. Rolls clip.
    Leno: Makes stupid face and looks at audience.

    Audience: hahhahahahha.
    ViAgara:Fuck you Leno.

    Posted by: Vi Agara | Apr 3, 2008 6:15:25 PM

  13. Well O'Reilly once again proves that he is a bigger asshloe than Leno, or most people out there. What a douche.

    Posted by: patrick nyc | Apr 3, 2008 7:16:31 PM

  14. The thing that amuses me about O'Reilly's indignation in this interview... he's SO upset that he can't make fun of minorities anymore. Why? Does he really want to make fun of minorities? Is he just achin' for the opportunity to tell a hilarious joke about a black person, a Hispanic, and a queer sitting in a bar?

    Posted by: Jere | Apr 3, 2008 9:16:12 PM

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