04/24/2008
North Carolina GOP Defies McCain Request, Runs Wright Ad
Despite John McCain's request to state party chair Linda Daves that an ad running in North Carolina featuring Obama and Rev. Jeremiah Wright (and using Wright's rant "No! No! No! Not God bless America. God bleep America!") not be run, the North Carolina Republican Party has decided to defy McCain and run the ad anyway.
The ad criticizes both NC Lt. Gov. Beverly Perdue's and state Treasurer Richard Moore's endorsements of a candidate they claim is "too extreme."
Said Obama of the ad: "My understanding is that the Republican National Committee and John McCain have both said that the ad's inappropriate. I take them at their word, and I assume that if John McCain thinks that it's an inappropriate ad, that he can get them to pull it down since he's their nominee and standard-bearer."
He assumed wrong.
UPDATE: NC Republicans pull ad...
Watch the spot, AFTER THE JUMP...
Sphere: Related ContentPosted 10:36 AM EST by Andy in Barack Obama, Election 2008, John McCain, News, North Carolina, Republican Party | Permalink
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Posted by: homer | Apr 24, 2008 10:47:08 AM
You can go to other discussion boards on this topic and read all the comments by Clinton supporters gleefully bragging about how much they love the ad and how they sent money to get it on the air as much as possible. Even at 365gay at least one person left a comment stating their moral and financial support for the ad.
The "ANYTHING to win" wing of the campaign is determined to destroy the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Zeke | Apr 24, 2008 10:56:31 AM
The Republicans are masters at the Good Cop/Bad Cop thing. They got their message out there and now McCain gets to appear above it. LOL. It's gonna be a great 6 months.
Posted by: Mike | Apr 24, 2008 10:57:14 AM
Man that bitch looks evil!
She is the perfect stereotype of the hatin' "christian" woman!
Posted by: bendskier | Apr 24, 2008 10:59:23 AM
Linda Daves doesn't want to be an elf. She wants to be a dentist.
Posted by: TheFridayForty | Apr 24, 2008 11:04:46 AM
Zeke, The concern you voiced has been my chief criticism of the Clinton campaign since the beginning. This election is the Dem's to lose but, unfortunately, many in the Clinton camp seem intent on doing so. She could reign them in but her behaviour sends the opposite message of encouragement. Really sad but not surprising.
Posted by: rudy | Apr 24, 2008 11:24:11 AM
I half expected her to say, "Well, isn't that special," at the end. Unless McCain is saying one thing publicly and another privately, I give him credit for taking a higher road here. As for Hillary supporters contributing to this sort of thing, as Zeke reports, I am disgusted but I guess I can no longer be surprised. (And I'm not anti-Hillary.)
Posted by: Ernie | Apr 24, 2008 11:24:24 AM
I don't have a problem with the Ad. If it helps defeat Obama the Marxist then I am for it. If Hillary or McCain attended for 20 years a white preachers church that touted white power and talked about how horrible the US had become because of de-segregation they would be destroyed. Racism is racism regardless of the direction.
Posted by: Jason | Apr 24, 2008 11:36:31 AM
It's amazing that something that has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton can somehow be used to criticize her again by the Obama supporters...it's okay she's tough enough...keep em coming because she's not going anywhere...As far as her destroying the Democratic party...give me a break..this is America and a democracy and every voice will be heard and every vote will be counted (No matter how long it takes)...she's not going anywhere...
Posted by: daveynyc | Apr 24, 2008 11:39:55 AM
If Obama and McCain become the nominees, we just might have an election about issues. However, as this illustrates, there is no way that the person at the top of the ticket can control supporters who fear/hate the opposition. American politics will always be filled with nonsense.
Posted by: KJ | Apr 24, 2008 11:44:49 AM
I think that the fact they're running attack ads this early in the game proves just how scared shitless they are of running against Barack Obama.
Posted by: Cameron | Apr 24, 2008 11:48:30 AM
When the Clintons said something many were quick to say they were being racist. Now watch out, here comes the REAL racists, the specialists. The GOP! Only they can have one part say it, and another deny it, and thus have it both ways. Where are all those who were upset with Bill's comments, etc? Here is true racism in action. AND there's more to come from those repugnicans.
Posted by: Reggie | Apr 24, 2008 12:00:17 PM
I'll reiterate what a few others have said. This has NOTHING to do with Hillary Clinton and everything to do with John McCain. If McCain and the Republican Party were explicitly opposed to this ad running, it WOULD NOT HAVE RUN. Any support Clinton's camp may have thrown behind it (and I seriously doubt there was any) wouldn't have made a bit of difference.
Step back, people. Take a breath. Examine your biases (we all have them). This isn't a college football rivalry. No reason or benefit to demonizing your (like-minded!) rival.
Posted by: Michael | Apr 24, 2008 12:04:20 PM
I texted a friend of mine about these yesterday, and I said "They'll find some way to blame Hillary for this." Thanks for proving me right...
Oh, and Barack, welcome to the General Election. This is a tip of the iceberg, can you take the heat?
(no)
Posted by: FitnessNerd | Apr 24, 2008 12:38:42 PM
Andy, you're not reading Obama's statement with full understanding. He's saying he knows John McCain is (at least tacitly) backing this ad. Obama assumes correctly!
Posted by: Scott | Apr 24, 2008 12:42:18 PM
Extreme is the new black!
Posted by: jeff | Apr 24, 2008 12:49:17 PM
Jimmyboy: I think I smell a $10 USD floating my way in November. Republicans are going to bury Obama.
Sigh - be prepared to say "President McCain".
Posted by: Landis | Apr 24, 2008 1:27:03 PM
Of course, everything McCain does must be Hillary's fault. You know, given the attitude of Obama's supporters... maybe Hillary should just take her 15 million voters and go home to New York.
After all, nobody needs that worthless racist bitch. And we all know her psychopathic, delusional husband Bill is in league with the devil.
Besides, I'm sure Saint Obama can bring over 15 million Republican voters to make up for the difference. After all, he's so humble, accepting, patient, open-minded, peaceful, forgiving, loving, caring, smart, honest, respectable, fatherly, and hopeful.
Posted by: John | Apr 24, 2008 1:49:12 PM
I am glad they are running this ad. It makes them look stupid and racist. YouTube is killing the Southern strategy. Good.
Obama supporters need to follow his lead and take the focus off of Hillary. She is now irrelevant. I have come to believe that he is not only the inevitable candidate, but the better candidate. Intelligent posts by his supporters on Towleroad have helped me to reach this position.
The major reason I came to support Clinton early on was emotional, an outrage based not on affection for her but on my disapproval of irrational hatred. I am still distressed by the extent to which Obama supporters have latched onto fictions and half-truth about her. When a liberal in 2008 sounds exactly like a Limbaugh Dittohead in 1996, it is hard for people who were both paying attention to and remember the 1990s to take the candidate he supports seriously.
Venting your hatred of Cinton, be it based on Republican talking points, misogyny, or feelings of betrayal, cannot help our guy now. When you use a McCain story to attack Clinton, it makes Obamaa supporters look stupid, childish, and irrational. We need Hillary supporters to come joyfully aboard the Obama bus.
You won. Be gracious.
Posted by: Landon Bryce | Apr 24, 2008 2:06:04 PM
Why do these people always have that inbred look to them?
Posted by: Zo | Apr 24, 2008 3:21:25 PM
Interesting that the NC GOP claims they are pulling the ad when their website www.ncgop.org still is soliciting donations to keep the ad on the air. I can smell BULLS*** all the way over here in Texas.
Posted by: JonathanF | Apr 24, 2008 5:56:39 PM
That's EXACTLY what scares me, Landon Bryce. There are folks in my family who say they will vote McCain (or not vote at all) rather than cast a vote for Obama if he's our candidate instead of Clinton. I hope they're a rare exception, but I don't think so and it's freaking me out.
Posted by: Michael | Apr 24, 2008 7:35:48 PM
This is not the first time McNasty has taken the 'high road' while letting those around him throw mud. This is not even a 527 ad, it's the SC GOP.
Remember two years ago when Rep Harold Ford was ahead in the Senate race in TN a few weeks before the election they ran the 'Call me Harold' white Playboy ad. That was by the RNC which it's closet case head Ken Mehlman denied it was racist. Ford lost by 3%.
Hang on people, it's going to be a messy and Mcasty 6 months ahead.
Posted by: patrick nyc | Apr 24, 2008 7:40:07 PM
Do some of you people actually pay attention to whats going on?
Last year McCain stated that if he gets the nomination he will not allow his camgigen to impugn the integrity of his opponate(whoever it is), that he will run his camgiegn on issues and issues only, mainly at the time everyone assumed it would be Clinton and McCain and Clinton actually get along in the Senate. He also pretty much get's along with Obama, they had a problem when Obama spread some bullsh*t about the immigration bill, and McCain and Kennedy got on Obama about it, but other than that McCain has respect for Obama.
McCain has no control over 527's or state parties. He can condemn the ad's but can't stop them if they choose to run them. Since McCain is starting the process to use public fianacing for his run(something he promised to do and Obama promised to do if his opponate did as well, under public fianancing McCain can have absolutely no contact with the 527's. It will be against the election law. He can't tell them to do or not to do anything. If Obama would live up to another of his forgotten promises and take public fianancing(he makes speech's once a week about getting the money out of politics but he's the one not taking public fianancing)then he will be under the same rules. But then his campiegen wouldn't be able to coordinate as they are now with MoveOn.org and other 527 groups that work for the Democrats and are already attacking McCain with outright lies. The Associated Press told Obama last week that he was flat out lying when he told in his speech's about McCain and the 100 years comment, and McCains comment on the economy and that they intended to edit out his blattent lies from now on before printing a story. It's pretty bad when the MSM starts noticing that Obama lies and then denies.
This ad was run by the way, not at Obama but at the 2 top contenders in the NC primary for the Democratic nomination for Governor of NC.
KJ....you have it completely right. They can only control what their own campiegn does and even then there is always going to someone who didn't get the memo.
Cameron....wake up....Obama is now the one they want to face. Clinton has shown how tough she can be and shown that she would hold the Democratic coalition together and be a very formidable candidate in the fall. It's to bad the her party hasn't figured that out yet, because even long time Democrats(not Hillary supporters) are saying privately they now think Obama will be beaten badly in November.
Posted by: Joshua | Apr 24, 2008 9:13:37 PM
yep, even here in California, I personally know Democrats who will vote for McCain if Obama becomes the eventual candidate.
Be prepared for another GOP White House..
Posted by: imladris | Apr 24, 2008 9:24:10 PM
IMLADRIS, then you know Democrats who aren't really Democrats or you know Democrats who should be ashamed of themselves for being willing to turn this country over to Bush 3 just because they're selfish and probably too stupid to vote in the first place.
So, let me get this straight, because a large number of Senator Clinton's supporters are so bitter and selfish that they're willing to vote for McSame over THEIR OWN PARTY'S chosen candidate, we're supposed to dump Obama? Is that what you're saying? Because Clinton supporters will be such sore losers and selfish crybabies that they will take their ball and ACTIVELY work to make sure that McCain wins the general election against Obama regardless of the fact that four/eight more years of Bush policies will destroy America as we know it, THIS is supposed to be our motivation to dump the man who is winning the nomination in every measure?
I keep saying that the story going around that Clinton would rather torpedo Obama in the general so that she will have another shot at the presidency and McCain in 2012 is a wild conspiracy theory but then I hear how many Clinton supporters say that they'll vote for McCain if Obama wins the nomination it sounds like there may just be something to the seemingly outrageous claim.
This has got to be the most bizarre argument I have heard yet but lately I've been hearing it more and more.
Here is a fact that can be proven with real numbers in EVERY SINGLE state that has had a primary or a caucus. In EVERY state, the more that people got to know Senator Clinton the more her poll numbers went down. The more people got to know about Obama the more his poll numbers went up. Even with the spittle laden "Jeremiah Wright" and "Bittergate" Fox/Swiftboat styled faux controversies, within a week after the media swarm Obama had gained his footing and continued his upward climb while Senator Clinton continued her downward slide. Look at the poll graphs from EVERY state. They are VERY telling.
And don't tell me about Obama not standing the heat. With DAVENYC and JOSHUA and hundreds hundreds of thousands of their Hillary/Republican coalition screeching and squawking about Wright and Bitter, they couldn't make ANY of it stick. Even after the ABC laugh olympics debate that the Hillary supporters loved so much, Obama's polls went up, Hillary's went down and 2/3 of viewers said OBAMA won the debate. How can she win the general election when she doesn't even win the debate that she and her supporters so loved?
And finally, to JOSHUA's latest pearl of wisdom about the Republican's now wanting to face Obama, yeah right! That's why they're running attack ads on Obama and not Clinton. Really JOSHUA, what color is the sky in your world.
She won Pennsylvania, a state that couldn't be taylor made for her any more, by less than ten points when only six weeks earlier she was up by twenty or more. Even with Obama being barraged with Wright and Bitter 24/7 he STILL closed the gap on her and improved in all democraphics over Ohio, even in a state where she had family roots, childhood memories, endorsement and full time campaign work from the governor and where all of her most loyal demographics are the most highly represented. And I'm supposed to believe that she is our strongest candidate.
Look, It's clear too already what's going to happen. Obama will win the nomination and every time the media and the Republicans go after him with some swiftboat attack, the Hillary supporters will come out of the woodwork screaming, "SEE, we told you so, Hillary would have never been attacked for this" or
"Hillary WOULD HAVE handled this situation better" and on and on. We'll NEVER hear the end of it. Then when Obama is elected President they'll still be pouting and waiting with baited breath for him to make his first stumble. Then they'll hammer away at him for every glitch in his implementing policies he promised in the campaign. It will be four years of "told ya so!" Of course all of these could'a, should'a, would'as will be easy for them to throw out because we'll never know WHAT the Republicans would have thrown at Senator Clinton and we'll never know how well she would have handled it and we'll never know how well she would have performed as President or how many promises she would have broken or how many misteps she will have made. What we can be absolutely SURE of is that some of her supporters here will claim that she would'a been perfect in every way, IF she had only been given the chance.
Bottom line, regardless of whether McCain or Obama gets elected it will be a miserable four years listening to the whining and complaining coming from the JOSHUA's and the DAVENYC's and the rest of the "anything to win" wing of the campaign.
Posted by: Zeke | Apr 24, 2008 11:40:51 PM
LANDON BRYCE, thank you. You were the Clinton supporter that concerned me the most because you were never over-the-top with your criticism of Obama.
You made my day and my weekend...maybe my month. Thanks.
Some liberal 527 needs to run Reverend Wright's "God damn America" sermon on TV also. While Wright is ranting, they need to superimpose photos of the most famous lynchings of black men. End it with a picture of 12 year old Emmit Till in his coffin, or James Byrd's body torn apart. There will be many white people (even in North Carolina) who will say, "well, yeah, I understand...when you live with those kind of memories."
Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Apr 25, 2008 9:51:18 AM