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05/08/2008
CBS: Top Clinton Strategist Tells Her It's Over
As Clinton campaigns on amid mounting pressure to concede and unify the party, CBS has reported that a top Clinton strategist has told Hillary Clinton that she can't win the nomination...
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Posted by: virgoboy | May 8, 2008 10:02:31 AM
I have supported HRC the whole way and have been reluctant to say it, but, time to end the campaign. She can't win and Fla & Michigan should not count. I don't know if she is the right VP for Obama, maybe Wes Clark? Or Gov Sebelius from Kansas? Thoughts?
Posted by: davefromtampa | May 8, 2008 10:17:27 AM
Davefromtampa
Richardson is also a good one to be on the short list.
He delivers NM and helps a ton with latinos in TX, AZ, etc. Could you imagine a dem sweep of TX? WOW
The only problem I have with Hillary as VP is that she is an alpha personality where as the VP slot is better suited to a beta.
It would be a shame to see Hillary force her personality into a closet so as to not over shine Obama. Senate Majority leader???? In place of weak Reid? Now that is a winner where her strengths can shine forth.
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 8, 2008 10:23:46 AM
No, HRC should not be the VP. She should let the Obama truck flame out on its own.
Posted by: Landis | May 8, 2008 10:33:29 AM
LANDIS
That insinuates that the Clintons won't do all that is within their ability to promote Obama as the dem nominee for president.
You have a strange opinion of the Clintons.
The Clintons will back Obama 100%+++. In the end both are democrats. BOTH know that the supreme court is on the line and do not want to see women having to stock up on coat hangers,
Heck, for no other reason than human vanity. What better page in the history books is there than to be instrumental in helping to elect the first African American president in the US?
The Clintons will back Obama 100% and make their legacy larger than it already is.
Bill is evidently pained at the moment by the split between him and the African American community. Bill in the end can not and will not let that continue.
Bill loves to be loved, it is part of his charm. He is damn charming. Repubs even admit that Bill could charm them if they didn't completly disagree with everything he stands for. In the end BILL himself won't be able to stop himself from going out gung ho for Obama and seeing to it that Obama gets elected.
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 8, 2008 10:46:17 AM
She's staying in the race, she must have said it 1000 times, the Clinton's aren't quitters...this contest is good for our party.
This race is not over yet...
A lot can happen in a few weeks...
Hillary '08!!
Posted by: daveynyc | May 8, 2008 10:58:24 AM
"The Clintons will back Obama 100%+++. In the end both are democrats. BOTH know that the supreme court is on the line and do not want to see women having to stock up on coat hangers,"
Oh, Jimmy, you can be so naive sometimes. Al Gore's on the phone; he'd like to have a word with you.
Posted by: 24play | May 8, 2008 11:08:01 AM
Because of the continued battle a record number of new Democrats have been registered, and the Dem candidates have remained in the news. Obama’s weaknesses have been exposed and now he has the chance to prepare better for the real fight. Also FL and MI need to be seated; these are important states in the general election, and now that is clear HRC won't win even with them, the only reason to keep shutting them out is some weird fear of her. If my vote was nullified because of some haggling over dates between State and Federal politicians I would be pissed and I’d be pissed at Obama for not fighting for me.
Posted by: eric | May 8, 2008 11:17:35 AM
And Davey, about that candidate of yours, Monty Python has the diagnosis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTSAFcLXqYY
Posted by: 24play | May 8, 2008 11:18:01 AM
24play
I love Gore (he was my 1st choice for 08), but Gore himself distanced himself from the clintons first.
DaveNYC, still loving your passion. :-)
Eric over at huffpo they have an article that the Michigan democratic party has settled it as 69 delegates for Hillary and 59 for Obama netting Hillary 10+. It is just up to the rules comittee now to accept Michigan's proposal.
They both will be sat in the end
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 8, 2008 11:22:00 AM
Here is a link to that huffpo article I mentioned
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080507/primary-scramble/
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 8, 2008 11:34:26 AM
Claire McCaskill? Don't know much about her but she's been very impressive in support of Obama on various talk shows an might appeal to those looking for a gender-balanced ticket.
Posted by: KenCT | May 8, 2008 1:13:14 PM
She's not dropping out. Nothing has changed. The media made it quite clear that no matter how Tuesday played out they would hound Clinton to get out of the race, and immediatly after the poll's closed that's exactly what they did.
In a startling article in Solon a Liberal media darling finally just came out and said that the media is in the tank for Obama, no matter what.
They went into Tuesday primaries with Obama ahead in N.C. and close in Indiana. They came out exactly as predicted for 3 weeks. In fact the real loser here was Obama, he led Clinton by 25 points in N.C. only 12 days before the primary and won by 14 points., In Indiana he was actually ahead 3 days before the primary and lost by 1 or 2 %. So if anything happened, it just showed once again that unless blacks make up 30% of the voters in a state, Obama can't beat Clinton in that state.
Personally, I think the media is going to sink Obama in the end with their blatent bia's. They keep crowing on and on about how white, blue collar workers are showing *racism* by supporting Clinto with 55% to 62% of their vote, but think it's just peachy keen that 90% or more blacks vote for Obama. I guess it's only racist if your white and don't support the Obamamessiah, but it's *cool* if your down with Obama at 90% if your black.
Can you spell ***HYPOCRISY***??
Posted by: Joshua | May 8, 2008 1:33:38 PM
Well if it's over for Hillary, it's over for the Democrats. Once all the Obama supporters recover from Hope and Change intoxication (likely the day after election day), they're going to have four long years to nurse their hangovers through McCain's term. And before anyone starts hollering, I'm not anti-Obama, I'm pro-reality.
An inexperienced first-term Democratic senator with loads of shady connections and a severe case of elitist disconnect is never going to be elected. You personally may think he's the Second Coming or the new JFK/RFK, but many Americans are growing increasingly suspicious of him, as his public persona continues to fray and tatter. Hillary was the only candidate who stood any chance of winning both the African-American and blue-collar votes this season--that is until Obama's cronies smeared the Clinton's as racists and the AAs changed candidates en masse.
In the midst of this deep divide among the Democrats, these fantasies of Obama's crossover appeal are just that, fantasies. He'll be lucky to get 75% of Dems on his side. Many moderate Dems aren't going to forgive Obama's smears and dirty tricks; they're going to pull the lever for McCain. And the conservative Republicans may not like John McCain all that much, but they've never been closer to getting a Republican lock on the Supreme Court and overturning Roe v. Wade; they are not going to stay home, as has been predicted.
Posted by: Tom K. | May 8, 2008 1:54:38 PM
Joshua,
What a load of crap. So your argument is that Obama is winning because a group that makes up less than 14% of the total population supports him overwhelmingly? Your assessment is short-sighted and kind of dumb. The major problem I have is that by your thinking black people only vote on skin color. That would mean that Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Alan Keyes, etc should have enjoyed similar support, BUT NONE OF THEM DID!
Maybe the "reason" (as if there is just one) that black people vote for Obama in such large numbers is because of comments Hillary as made, and continues to make (see comments from W.VA today). Her campaign has run on an only thinly veiled strategy of writing off the black vote as irrelevant and pandering to close-minded folks who fear the thought of a person with dark skin sleeping in the White House.
People like you always conveniently forget that before the Clintons pulled out the white robes in South Carolina it was Hillary, not Obama, who had the lions share of support within the black community. People like you WANT, I daresay NEED to believe that the only reason black people support Obama is because of shared skin color, but you forget that black people have been the most reliable Democratic voting bloc for at least the last 40 years and have gotten more than a couple white folks elected.
It simply amazes me that people still think that the 3rd (not even second) largest minority group in this country can effectively choose the nominee for the next POTUS on their own. I guess it's those same people that actually bought the bull-crap being pushed by McCain and Clinton that Obama, not them, is the "elitist." It's almost comical that the multi-millionaire, Ivy league educated, well connected, racial majority candidates can accuse the black guy who isn't even a millionaire of being the "elitist" in the USA of today.
Posted by: Jason | May 8, 2008 2:05:54 PM
"The CONCERN TROLL posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group's actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed "concerns". The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group."
Posted by: 24play | May 8, 2008 2:12:36 PM
TOM K
100% of dems will vote for Obama because they know the supreme court is on the line.
Your log cabinite tactic of trying to stir up dem against dem falls flat.
McCain is too tied to Mr 23% approval and an Iraq war that 76%++++++ of amewrica wants nothing else to do with to ever win the election.
The only thing dems have to do is run an ad with the pic of mcCain sweatily and lovingly hugging bush and putting his short little bald head on W's shoulder. real pic, real event, the death knell of the repubs and the mccain campaign.
bye bye repubs and log cabinites (who vote repub due to racism and not tax breaks)
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 8, 2008 2:54:47 PM
Here ya go on the pic in just one constantly run ad that will forever sink mccain and the repubs in 08
http://www.poe-news.com/imgs/story/38601-mccain-hugs-bush.jpg
nobody wants bush pt 2
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 8, 2008 2:57:34 PM
Jimmyboyo:
The reason for my call is that I do not fundamentally believe that Americans will elect Obama as President. It is better for her political future to finish the primaries, support Obama, decline the VP position, and target 2012.
I think that the Clinton's political instinct is right and that Obama is a weak candidate. I think the presidency will depend on swing states, on older voters (and not younging's), and on middle America votes.
I think Obama will not close the deal at the finish line in November.
Le sigh - its going to be John Kerry all over again. Or a weak democrat presidency (slim chance0.
Posted by: Landis | May 8, 2008 4:23:32 PM
Landis
$10 canadian
:-)
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 8, 2008 4:29:44 PM
Thank you, JASON.
JIMMYBOYO, you make me believe.
Posted by: Derrick from Philly | May 8, 2008 4:37:09 PM
Derrick
:-)
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 8, 2008 6:07:31 PM
Jimmyboyo:
Trying to smear me as a Republican for simply laying out the situation as I see it doesn't really make much sense; it's seems a bit hysterical in fact. I'm not cheering for a McCain presidency, that's just how I see events unfolding. It may not coincide with your fantasy, but that's no reason to attack me.
And as for your accusation that I'm trying to stir up Dem against Dem hostility, that's just silly. Again I'm simply pointing out the situation as it is now and will likely be until November. If you're looking to assign blame for that, look to the legions of fanatical Obama followers savaging Clinton and her base across the blogosphere; look to HuffPo, Daily Kos, and TPM; and look to Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews and the rest of the talking heads infected with Clinton Derangement Syndrome. Me, I'm just here making a few observations. Sorry if they're a buzzkill for you. But, hey, I'm a bit of a Cassandra, so I've heard it all before.
"The power of clear vision is called cynicism by those who have not got it." --George Bernard Shaw
Posted by: Tom K. | May 8, 2008 6:12:12 PM
LOL @ all the people who think that if Hillary somehow garners the nomination she'll win. Too funny. I'd say she'd have a harder time simply because she has actively alienated a huge Democratic voting bloc. She must think that the "real Americans" she spoke of today will be enough. Because that other group ain't comin' back.
Posted by: John | May 8, 2008 7:02:16 PM
I just don't want to see her make any more comments like the ones she made today about white voters only supporting her. If she wants to just play out the last few minutes on the clock despite the fact that she can't come back, that's fine. She can take a valedictory tour for the next couple of weeks, bring out her supporters, and hopefully run a positive campaign that stresses the importance of various issues that Democrats stand for, campaigning not just for herself but for the party in the fall. No one is going to fault her for that.
But if she starts going around West Virginia, Kentucky and Oregon making statements (like today) that pour salt on the party's wounds, enhance identity-based divisions, drag Obama through the mud and weaken him against McCain, she needs to be pushed aside.
It's her call. We're about to find out whether she's doing this for the sake of her supporters but inside knows that she's no longer competing for the nomination, or if she's truly delusional.
Posted by: Mark | May 8, 2008 7:08:46 PM
Obama is going to win the nomination and now the Clinton dems have a choice, get on the wagon or allow bitterness to continue sinking the country. Either way, the old generation will blow away and the millenials will liberalize this country if more candidates like Obama keeps popping up.
BTW: Bill Clinton, Gore, and Kerry had receieved less than 50% of the (hard working, white American) votes all the Hillary supporters are talking about. Clinton, Gore, and Kerry also had received at least more than 89% of the black vote. Blacks are voting the most democrat, not black revolutionary. Blacks were more than willing to vote for these three guys despite the losses of the black candidates running in each of those races. Here, I'm not sure. Hillary has finally officially decided to throw blacks under the bus.
Well, if you think democrats will win without more than 70% of the black vote, your fucking kidding yourself. They make up a small percentage of the vote but they are the most reliable.
Posted by: Astonedtemple | May 8, 2008 8:45:16 PM
Jimmyboy:
Actually, I happen to know a lot of dems who plan to stay at home if Obama wins. GL on that. These people don't have things on the line the way the gays do and don't care whether the supremes go conservative on our asses.
Posted by: Landis | May 9, 2008 12:43:37 PM
Landis they will come around when they realize abortion is on the line.
McCain has stated what kind of judge he will appoint and no woman in her right min who is a dem will stay home or vote mccain.
Many of Mccain's supporters said the same stuff about GW in 2000. Then they all ended up going out and voting for him anyway.
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 9, 2008 1:05:24 PM