05/21/2008
Pastor John Hagee: Hitler 'Hunted' Jews Under God's Order
This clip of Pastor John Hagee, whose endorsement John McCain has gladly accepted, is making the rounds. It's a sermon Hagee gave in 1990 that says Hitler was acting on God's behalf in "hunting" the Jews so that they might establish the state of Israel.
Says Hagee: "'And they the hunters should hunt them,' that will be the Jews. 'From every mountain and from every hill and from out of the holes of the rocks.' If that doesn't describe what Hitler did in the holocaust you can't see that."
Hagee, as you likely know, has made disparaging remarks about Catholics (for which he recently apologized) and has said that gay sin was responsible for Hurricane Katrina.
McCain has called the Hagee/Katrina controversy "nonsense."
Joe Lieberman recently defended Hagee, saying, "He represents a lot of people in this country, particularly Christians who care about the state of Israel."
Listen to the Hagee Hitler clip, AFTER THE JUMP...
Audio Recording of McCain's Political Endorser John Hagee Preaching Jews Are Cursed and Subhuman [talk 2 action]
McCain Backer Hagee Said Hitler Was Fulfilling God's Will [huffington post]
Posted 6:16 PM EST by Andy Towle in John Hagee, John McCain, News, Religion, Republican Party | Permalink
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Mattia, what the hell are you talking about? So now it doesn't matter WHAT the preacher says, its who has the stronger association? Um, have you even LOOKED at the polls, dear? And what Hagee has said IN CONTEXT is worse than any of Wright's words IN OR OUT OF CONTEXT.
@Ken P: put the pipe down, honey.
Posted by: soulbrotha | May 22, 2008 3:44:34 AM
Well the man's an idiot...
What more is there to say?
Posted by: Nonplussed | May 22, 2008 6:23:57 AM
Perhaps the world be a better place if so many voters didn't put so much stock in a book written by authors who lacked, at the least, a basic grasp of the mechanics of rainfall.
Posted by: Robert | May 22, 2008 7:06:23 AM
Again you miss the point. He got endorsed by the nut yes but did not sit in the front pew lapping up everything he said all the while nodding his head in agreement for twenty years.
Posted by: ousslander | May 22, 2008 9:00:39 AM
Ousslander
You miss the point
McCain actively sought this guys endorsment for over a year.
Either his vetting process is completly incompetent (boads badly for a presidential administration) or they knew all about everything and just didn't care.
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 22, 2008 9:31:36 AM
"Its a shame because I believe McCain is better for GLBT than Obama will be. He is black and churchy, which is negative toward gays."
Uh, this is utter tripe. Obama's Church was pro-gay marriage. Do your research instead of spreading stereotypes.
There is no one big "black church." There are Methodist, Baptist, Catholic, Apostolic and other kinds of Christian churches.
As for McCain being better for GLBT Americans, are you whacked? Just what kind of people do you think he's going to appoint to the Supreme Court? He just said that he doesn't believe in gay marriage or civil unions. McCain voted against ENDA.
You're letting your bigotry get in front of the facts. Stop making stereotypical judgments about millions of people. You don't like it when people say that all gays are child molesters or worse, African-Americans don't like to be similarly slandered.
Posted by: noah | May 22, 2008 9:58:39 AM
...As a trained physical therapist and licensed counselor, I look at Hagee I see the same bloated, gluttonous face of the late Jerry Falwell. People who allow their bodies to bloat up from too much
food intake are deeply troubled.They have problems that we can only imagine. Their obesity really tells the tale.He will likely pass on from his indulgences, just as Falwell did. What he needs to do is quit cramming food in his mouth and hit a treadmill.
His followers share a remarkable trait. Take a look sometime at his "fans" and you will see what I mean. Really sad.
Posted by: tommy | May 22, 2008 10:15:15 AM
VI AGARA, in the words of your greatest hero, "There you go again!"
Having been a participant in the comments here at Towleroad for years I can't say that I'm in the least bit surprised by your ignorance filled comment above. Frankly I've come to expect them from you.
Let me set the record straight. Barack Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ. I will readily disclose that I am a member of the UCC as well. The UCC is the MOST supportive mainline denomination in the country. In fact we are, in many ways, more supportive of the gay community than the MCC even though the denomination is 95%+ straight. We were the first mainline Christian denomination in America to ordain a gay man in 1973 (in addition to being the first to ordain a black person and the first to ordain a woman). Our church has OFFICIALLY supported the FULL spiritual, social, cultural and legal inclusion of gay and lesbian people since the early seventies. In 2005 our general Synod in Atlanta OVERWHELMINGLY passed a resolution calling for FULL spiritual AND LEGAL marriage equality for gays and lesbians.
Obama gave the key note address at our 2007 Synod in Hartford, CT last year where he specifically spoke about how proud and supportive he is of HIS churches stands for justice and equality for GLBT people.
That hardly sounds like an anti-gay, churchy, black man to me.
I know it's hard to shill for the Republican Party on gay blogs without twisting facts or outright lying but as long as I'm around you can bet that you WILL be called out on it.
Posted by: Zeke | May 22, 2008 11:40:08 AM
Thank you, Zeke. Some people don't want to listen or read the truth, they just want to talk stupid.
I wish Roman Catholic leaders would speak on Hagee calling their church "The Great Whore". What does that make Baptists? The Little Pimps?
Posted by: Derrick from Philly | May 22, 2008 11:54:08 AM
I'll take churchy black liberal over churchy neo-con war-mongerer N. E. DAY.
Yay, leftism! I hope the bread line has marble rye. That's my favorite.
Posted by: jeffrob93 | May 22, 2008 12:05:12 PM
Jeff NYC
It appears you are wrong
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/22/unapologetic-hagee-says-h_n_103081.html
He has NOT/NEVER/ will not appologize
Instead he flips it and blames everyone else for mischaracterizing what he said.
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 22, 2008 1:48:16 PM
I know some people who know Wright and say he's a great guy, but his tongue gets away from him.
Zeke is correct, but I would add that by fundamentalist Jewish theology, the holocaust was an act of G-d to punish his chosen people for their sins. The latter point has been debated as a large faction of fundamentalist Jews argue that only the coming of a messiah can allow them to re-enter the state of Israel, thus dooming the current state. Now, as to the sins that were being punished, only G-d can say, and he doesn't have to. Unfortunately, fundamentalist Jews tend to spend so long debating points that they are still arguing over sabbath and kosher rules from the middle ages, so it will be a while before they can fully address the holocaust.
Posted by: anon | May 22, 2008 2:25:14 PM
Thanks, Zeke and others, for putting both Hagee and Vi agara's insanity in their proper places. I'm glad you beat me to it, saving my leftist addled brain the trouble.
Posted by: Ernie | May 22, 2008 2:38:24 PM
ANON
Have you heard the one about the group in a concentration camp who put Hashem on trial for what was happening and found him 100% guilty. Afterward they began their prayers.
Anyway; I am sure the orthedox would not debate the issue of "Jews have DEAD souls" that Hagee has claimed
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 22, 2008 2:58:09 PM
I meant "debate amongst themselves"
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 22, 2008 2:59:36 PM
I really hope there is no media coverage on this ... YET.
Now that the Wright "controversy" is over, by the time Obama is going against McSame, this whole Hagee FIASCO will help bring McSameCain down even more.
I present to you President Obama!
Posted by: FunMe | May 22, 2008 6:01:09 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/22/mccain-rejects-hagee-endo_n_103143.html
Mcsame has just renounced Hagee
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 22, 2008 6:03:04 PM
Not so fast JIMMYBOYO.
Hagee said, "You can't fire me, I QUIT!"
Hagee just rescinded his endorsement of McSame. This is getting good!
Oh, and now there's new unflattering video coming out starring Rod Parsley.
McSame is caught between a rock and a fundamentalist hard place here. He was desperate for fundamentalist Christian endorsements and now the only two major ones he could muster he's having to renounce. The fact that he renounced these nuts will piss off the fundies while the fact that he took so long to finally do it will piss off the Catholics, Jews and Muslims. Forget the gays. Those who support Bush III at this point in the game (ie GayPatriot.comers) would support him if he declared all out war on the GLBT community.
Posted by: Zeke | May 22, 2008 9:21:59 PM
JB: good point, though mainstream Jews tend not to believe in an afterlife. (Baptists don't believe in an eternal Hell, either. Rather, the souls of sinners are burned in Hell to a state of non-existence--a kind of double-death.)
McCain, having cleared the nomination, is moving back to the center for the general election. Hagee no longer served any further purpose.
Posted by: anon | May 22, 2008 10:15:30 PM
Per John Hagee, God used Hurricane Katrina to destroy New Orleans because of its Gay sin. Then, in essence, God destroyed Rev Jerry Falwell because of his sin of gluttony – the Bible very clearly addresses the sin of eating too much. And, thus goes the hypocrite Hagee, who cherry picks what he chooses to believe from the Bible. He is grossly obese; therefore, God must destroy him too. Be patient, be watchful; Hagee’s hypocrisy will catch up with him just like it did with Rev Ted Haggard, who beat up on Gays from the pulpit of his 13,000 member church, while he snuck around with his male escort, who admitted to purchasing drugs for the Right Reverend. Haggard was kicked unceremoniously from his lucrative church job. Let us pray “Our Heavenly Father, send Rev Hagee to the trash heap to join his brotherhood of religious phonies and take away his reported $1 million yearly salary. Amen and Amen.”
Posted by: Benjie | May 22, 2008 10:30:25 PM
Zeke
Yepp, it is getting interesting
Anon
I am happy McCain and his 2 fundie pastors are splitting, but his total embrace of everything bush is a far cry from going to the center
Posted by: Jimmyboyo | May 23, 2008 1:07:47 AM