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Gay Men Arrested for Public Sex on Fire Island

At least three people have been detained or arrested and charged with lewd conduct on Fire Island for activity taking place between Cherry Grove and Fire Island in the area familiarly known as the "meat rack" since June 13.

LmpcRadar Online reports: "Few details are known—the National Park Service has not yet confirmed the arrests or said why they have now begun patrolling the land. On the weekend of Friday, June 13, at least one gay man was detained in the small wooded area popularly called The Meat Rack, which is both a cruising ground and also a thoroughfare between the two gay towns of Fire Island, Cherry Grove and The Pines. The following weekend, at least two were arrested. In the first event, an eyewitness said he saw five or six rangers with a gay man (described as somewhat overweight and clad in khakis and a polo shirt) on his knees and in handcuffs. The men were searched after their arrests. In the other event, a man was stopped and 'panicked and tried to get rid of the drugs,' according to a second-hand report by one Cherry Grove resident; that man was either charged with possession or detained further and charged. The man arrested with him was given a citation for $125 for engaging in lewdness, that resident said."

According to Choire Sicha at Radar, the arrests are the first of their kind on Fire Island.

Last week I reported that the National Park Service had announced it would be cracking down on public sex in the dunes outside Provincetown, Massachusetts, on Cape Cod.

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  1. You said it, CK. :-) I also love the ones who say they've NEVER had public sex of any kind (shall we give them good boy medals?) yet presume to know all about those who have. I suppose convincing yourself that all public sex aficionados are ugly old closeted trolls makes it easier to be a moralist, but they might be surprised to learn that some guys (even hot, openly gay ones!) like outdoor sex just cause it can be fun.

    Posted by: Ernie | Jun 30, 2008 10:22:40 AM


  2. Some strong opinions, for people who have no idea what there talking about! Having lived on Fire Island for thirteen years. I am more than qualified to say, this is sad state of affairs. I am appalled at anyone who would agree with what happened.

    Since the beginning of time. The meat rack has been a place for gay men, who pay thousands of dollars to have a summer place away from the city! Two of the thirteen summer communities on Fire Island are and always have been since the 60's predominately gay!
    To the moron who made the comment about "down right dangerous."Jaywalking is down right dangerous.
    This is nothing but abuse of power and discrimination. Wake up people, look at the bigger picture! Forget about the sex.

    Its no secret, its been the subject of documentaries, TV shows, movies, books..etc.
    This has been going on since the 60's. It's what made Fire Island famous. So what 50 years later, they decided its a problem! Does that make any sense?

    The meat rack is not exactly "public." Its a thicket of bush and trees, surrounding a swamp in the dunes. Bordered by The Pines and The Grove; both gay summer towns.

    Honestly, I consider the Pines more of a private community than a public one. It has never really catered to day trippers or drop ins. This is a destination, not a place you find yourself wandering threw! I guarantee you could make a thousand wrong turns. You will never end up in The Pines, or the Meat Rack! Believe me! Anyone who would agree with these arrest, clearly has no idea of the entirety of the situation.

    I am sure, if they hung out in the bushes in Ocean Beach, they could find a hetero or two engaging in lewd conduct. Five or six rangers. By Fire Island standards thats a small army! You may see two a summer when you live there!

    This borders on freedom been taken away. The sex just made it easier to do it. I am sorry, but I want and value my freedom.

    Every time, a adult book store or theater is closed. Every time a bar is shut down. Every time, a sting operation is made at a truck stop. Every time, a john picking up a prostitute is made public. Every time, a guy is arrested for lewd behavior, in a remote place. A place where a large percentage of the residents are gay, and business gay owned and operated! We all lose a little more of our freedom.

    Whether, you go to adult theaters, pick up a prostitute or have sex in a tree! You are still are being effected. Dictating morals, regulating or taking away rights. Does not stop with these things. If anything this is just launching pad for bigger things. Considering the direction. "Backwards" Where does it stop?

    So before you jump on the self righteous, controlling, dictating, fundamentalist, you have no rights, police state, big brother bandwagon. Think first, just because it does not directly effect you, does not mean it won't!!

    What a wonderful world it would be if we all just worried about our selves!

    Posted by: Adrian | Jul 1, 2008 1:36:33 PM


  3. Some strong opinions, for people who have no idea what there talking about! Having lived on Fire Island for thirteen years. I am more than qualified to say, this is sad state of affairs. I am appalled at anyone who would agree with what happened.

    Since the beginning of time. The meat rack has been a place for gay men, who pay thousands of dollars to have a summer place away from the city! Two of the thirteen summer communities on Fire Island are and always have been since the 60's predominately gay!
    To the moron who made the comment about "down right dangerous."Jaywalking is down right dangerous.
    This is nothing but abuse of power and discrimination. Wake up people, look at the bigger picture! Forget about the sex.

    Its no secret, its been the subject of documentaries, TV shows, movies, books..etc.
    This has been going on since the 60's. It's what made Fire Island famous. So what 50 years later, they decided its a problem! Does that make any sense?

    The meat rack is not exactly "public." Its a thicket of bush and trees, surrounding a swamp in the dunes. Bordered by The Pines and The Grove; both gay summer towns.

    Honestly, I consider the Pines more of a private community than a public one. It has never really catered to day trippers or drop ins. This is a destination, not a place you find yourself wandering threw! I guarantee you could make a thousand wrong turns. You will never end up in The Pines, or the Meat Rack! Believe me! Anyone who would agree with these arrest, clearly has no idea of the entirety of the situation.

    I am sure, if they hung out in the bushes in Ocean Beach, they could find a hetero or two engaging in lewd conduct. Five or six rangers. By Fire Island standards thats a small army! You may see two a summer when you live there!

    This borders on freedom been taken away. The sex just made it easier to do it. I am sorry, but I want and value my freedom.

    Every time, a adult book store or theater is closed. Every time a bar is shut down. Every time, a sting operation is made at a truck stop. Every time, a john picking up a prostitute is made public. Every time, a guy is arrested for lewd behavior, in a remote place. A place where a large percentage of the residents are gay, and business gay owned and operated! We all lose a little more of our freedom.

    Whether, you go to adult theaters, pick up a prostitute or have sex in a tree! You are still are being effected. Dictating morals, regulating or taking away rights. Does not stop with these things. If anything this is just launching pad for bigger things. Considering the direction. "Backwards" Where does it stop?

    So before you jump on the self righteous, controlling, dictating, fundamentalist, you have no rights, police state, big brother bandwagon. Think first, just because it does not directly effect you, does not mean it won't!!

    What a wonderful world it would be if we all just worried about our selves!

    Posted by: Adrian | Jul 1, 2008 1:37:54 PM


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  5. I was fascinated by this thread. Although these comments are at least about 3 years old, I just have to add my two cents. I had no idea that so many gay men feel so passionatley about public sex. I had more than my fair share of sex in public places (adult bookstores and the park) when I was in my 20s and learning to navigate gay life. The bars were boring and lonely, meeting someone to actually go out with seemed impossible. Sex was a lifeline. Yes, it was illegal and anonymous and potentially dangerous, but it was also liberating, life affirming, and confirmation that I was not some ugly, disgusting, geek that the gay world was rejecting (which is what I would think when frequenting gay bars and dance clubs). I was aware of the illegality, but in a sense it never seemed real to me. That so many men cruised made it seem OK. One day that changed when I had my wallet stolen by a trick. But I still didn't learn my lesson. One night I was arrested. It was not only humiliating but downright frightening. The cop let me go, since it was my first arrest and I seemed harmless enough, but the other guy was arrested since it was his second offense. Eventually, to make a very long story short, the charges were dropped, but the steep court costs and the embarassment of having to appear before a judge on public indecency charges, changed my mind for good.

    The public sex issue is about much more than 'puritanical moralizing' or 'sexual liberation.' I've learned there are three types of men who regularly use crusing spots: the desparately lonely, those who could be labeled sex addicts, and those deeply in the closet and married. Public sex for many of these guys is a virtual necessity, not an indulgence. As a community, I would think gay activits and others would want to alleviate these problems instead of glorifying them as a sex romp. My experiences occurred in a Midwestern city with few opportunities for gay men outside rundown bars. I can't believe that in a metropolis like New York men cruise so openly. This appears like the result of an attitude of entitlement, which is not a healthy attitude. I'm no prude or puritan, but grown men need to accept some level of personal responsibility, both for our reputation in the large society and for the younger generations coming up. A final thought: sucking cock or doing whatever at midnight in bramble bushes doesn't seem hot to me. How could you tell if a guy has a disease or if has a weapon on him? Some of you are putting yourselves at great risk. It only takes one time to ruin your life forever. Enjoy sex and life, but be responsible. Sex is not a revolution and gays aren't sexual revolutionaries (at least most of us aren't).

    Posted by: Mike J | Feb 26, 2012 10:54:35 PM


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