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Berlin Memorial to Gay Holocaust Victims is Vandalized

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A memorial that was unveiled in May in Berlin consisting of a concrete monolith with a window that looked on to a video of two men kissing was damaged in Berlin over the weekend in an action clearly demonstrating the violence against gays that still exists today.

Destroyer Magazine reports: "The next day, a sign informed the visitors that the film wasn’t showing correctly due to a “technical problem”. The message was signed by Stiftung Denkmal für die ermordeten Juden Europas, the administration of the big Holocaust Memorial. That memorial was supposed to cover all groups murdered by the Nazis, but after protests it was decided it would only commemorate Jewish victims. That’s why the gays got their own memorial on the other side of the street, half covered by the bushes of Tiergarten (quite fitting I must admit) and apparently out of sight from the police officers who watch the Jews’ memorial 24/7."

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  1. I say leave it as it is as a reminder of the holocaust against gays that continues today. Put Lawrence King's 15yo skeleton inside and drape a Jamaican flag over the thing. We'll call it Huckabee's Place.

    Posted by: John in Manhattan | Aug 18, 2008 9:15:08 AM


  2. I agree. Just leave it like that -- damaged. Perfect.

    Posted by: Bears Are Fat | Aug 18, 2008 10:12:21 AM


  3. Doesn't change the fact that the insulting design across the street still reduces us to a concrete outhouse containing people defining us as looped foreplay—separating us literally and figurativley from not just other Holocaust victims but also the human race. There's as much reason to believe gays with brains attacked it as homophobes.

    And your source ["half covered by the bushes of Tiergarten (quite fitting I must admit}"] does us little better by reducing us to people who only have sex in the bushes. But perhaps he's projecting. Never having heard of him I checked some of his other entries only to stop after deducing that he might be a good candidate for a NAMBLA officer and before another kind of officer knocked down my door for viewing his teen soft [?] porn unawares.

    Posted by: Leland Frances | Aug 18, 2008 10:55:42 AM


  4. i tell you, the sight of two men kissing is still so controversial and pushes many a button... makes you wonder why the memorial had to be segregated, what the protests where all about and did the jews discriminate against the gays while in the camps.... who knows the real story behind all this..

    Posted by: the queen | Aug 18, 2008 11:10:41 AM


  5. I find it Ironic that jews descriminate against other groups and they don't want to be descriminated against...same with other minorities...Well, this goes to show how the world work, what a bunchof crap all these groups are...mostly when it comes to the holocust i don't like hearing about it.

    Posted by: Bosie | Aug 18, 2008 11:22:36 AM


  6. BOSIE,

    it's amazing...you write/speak in stronger Ebonics than I do. Are we "passing", dear? Come on, it's 2008...even Vin Diesel wouldn't try that shit.

    Posted by: Derrick from Phiily | Aug 18, 2008 11:28:21 AM


  7. The incorporation of fragile technology, e.g., a video screen, into a memorial, which by definition is intended to withstand the vicissitudes of time and the elements (human or otherwise), is just plain silly. If it wasn't a bigot's fist that would end the looping film, it would have been a breakdown of the constituent parts.

    Posted by: GM | Aug 18, 2008 11:33:20 AM


  8. Maybe it is just me but that video strikes me as a little bit tacky. It comes of to me as more of the start of a pornographic video then a sweet moment between lovers.

    Posted by: John M | Aug 18, 2008 2:35:23 PM


  9. Not only do I think they should leave it damaged, I think they should carve the date of the incident on the side of it. Every time it's vandalized in the future they should carve another date...

    Posted by: JP | Aug 18, 2008 2:40:44 PM


  10. To Leland Frances:

    Tiergarten plays an important part in German and therefore European gay history. Like it or not, but cruising was the main way for gay men to meet at the time. They did so in Tiergarten, and that's why the memorial was placed there, after discussions with Berlin's gay museum.

    Furthermore, criticizing ppl who are "reducing us" to this or that is accepting the homophobes' silly arguments that gays are this or that. Come on. No one should have to represent anyone else.

    Posted by: Destroyer editor | Aug 18, 2008 3:57:51 PM


  11. Dear Destroyer Editor: If you spent less time drooling over teenage boys, excuse me “celebrating male adolescent beauty,” and more time reading about the history of homosexuality in Germany about which you choose to pontificate, you wouldn’t embarrass yourself by saying that "cruising was the main way for gay men to meet at the time." "Cruising," in all its forms, always is—wherever. And WHICH "time"? Nor did I remotely suggest that there never was any cruising in Tiergarten.

    But perhaps your errors are just because English is not your first language, and you’re primarily demonstrating the pitfalls of reading/writing about complicated issues in languages with which one is not entirely comfortable.

    In any case, in fact, despite the antigay law Paragraph 175, in the Weimar Republic years between the end of WWI and 1933 when the Reich aggressively began to try to erase German gays, there were many options in Berlin for meeting other gay men, so many that its reputation attracted gay tourists from other countries. Historian Frank Rector [“The Nazi Extermination of Homosexuals”] estimates that there were more gay bars and periodicals in 1920 Berlin than there were in 1980 New York. Some estimates range as high as 100 LGBT establishments by ’33.

    And whatever input the Schwule Museum had, the fact remains that the location was chosen for its proximity to the Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe. Further, it could be constructed from the hardened semen of millions of your favorite teenages boys and it would still look like a concrete crapper.

    Of course "no one should have to represent anyone else," but they do, Blanche, they do. Hence the memorial's name isn't "For SOME Gay Holocaust Victims."

    Posted by: Leland Frances | Aug 18, 2008 6:20:04 PM


  12. Hey Leland- I respect your grasp of gay history, but what's with the drool-phobia?

    Posted by: steve | Aug 18, 2008 11:22:31 PM


  13. ...keeping up the tradition Fritz?

    Posted by: Barabas | Aug 19, 2008 6:17:13 AM


  14. Thanks for the history lesson, Leland. I obviously didn't refer to the voluptuous 20's and early 30's, but to the Nazi time when gays in fact were persecuted. I thought that was obvious since that's what the memorial is about. Silly you.

    But that's beside the point, which is that you don't want gay men to be reduced to having sex, which is the most predictable and selfhating view a gay man can have. I have the opposite view, meaning that is *exactly* what we should be "reduced" to, because that's the only thing we have in common - men having sex with men.

    When you subscribe to the "representation theory", every gay man who sticks out the slightest becomes a threat, since he represents you, and you feel the need to exclaim things like "I'm not a sissy!" or "I don't like teens!".

    Hence the drool-phobia, I guess.

    Posted by: Destroyer editor | Aug 29, 2008 10:32:05 AM


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