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  1. the queen says

    now didn’t jebus say something about a rich man trying to get into the kingdom of heaven — so that takes care of the saddleback jebus debates — no matter, mcbush will be president, so you all best get over it… hail to the chief..

  2. Juan Pablo says

    Wow, life styles of the very rich and famous, and, to think there are still people struggling to get by in places like Ohio, Michigan and west Virginia just to name a few places who will vote for this guy. Just like the current dimwit in office, they have no clue, and, could care less about regular Americans.

    But, have to give them, the GOP, credit, they know how to dupe the dimwitted into voting for them with fear and lies, when they stand against everything that matters to everyday people.

  3. says

    If $5 million is rich, then I must be a welfare mom with 3 kids. WTF?

    Most people make 5 figure salaries, you’re trying to tell me that the minute you get to 7 figures you’re NOT rich?

  4. ANOTHERDEMOCRATICIDIOT says

    So now the democratic herd does not want to vote for McCain because he’s rich and owns several homes? I can think of several reasons not to vote for McCain but his wealth — or more accurately, his wife’s wealth — is not one of them. So is that why John Kerry lost the election was because all those populism-spouting Democrats did not like the fact that Theresa Heinz Kerry was filthy rich? I suppose that’s why millionaire Hillary Clinton lost the Democratic nomination to millionaire Barack Obama: she had several more millions than Barack’s millions. If the Democrats are reduced to sock-it-the-rich attacks against McCain then I assure you Obama will not be the next President of the United States. Maybe the Democrats should focus on how to help all of us to increase our net worth.

  5. Derrick from Philly says

    It aint over yet, THE QUEEN. This man and his party can be beaten. Americans don’t seem to be impressed at all with him or his campaign, but, unfortunately, they still are not comfortable with Obama–yet. The choice for a vice-presidential candidate hasn’t been this important in decades. I’m leaning towards Joe Biden–he can go on the attack against McCain in ways SlimJim will not.

    So don’t start to frettin’ yet, darlin’–it aint over. It might just be beginning.

  6. noteasilyoffended says

    OK. A military veteran and Senator can afford homes totaling over $13 million? They were either bought with his wife’s beer money or something is rotten in Denmark (and San Diego).

  7. ANOTHERDEMOCRATICIDIOT says

    “They were either bought with his wife’s beer money or something is rotten in Denmark (and San Diego).”

    I think it’s safe to assume that the homes were purchased with his wife’s beer money — and gays probably contributed to a lot of her beer fortune — since McCain historically never has sought the self-dealing corrupt earmarks that Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and other Democrats insert into funding bills. Indeed, if reform is the issue, McCain probably is the better candidate than Obama. For example, in addition to refusing earmark funding, Sen. McCain — together with progressive Democrat Russ Feingold of Wisconsin — has drafted critical campaign finance reform legislation. Indeed, while McCain has kept his promise to fund his campaign with public funds, Obama broke his promise and now is the recipient of massive cash flows from Wall Street investors and trial lawyers (you know, the John Edwards crowd).

  8. noteasilyoffended says

    ANOTHERDEMOCRATICIDIOT: I don’t ASSUME anything. If you can provide me facts about who bought the McCain properties, GREAT! If not, stop assuming. That would be like assuming the all Senator’s are honest and have never received kickbacks and gifts from lobbyist or corporations. Puhhhlease. My post was not from a Republican or Democratic stance. It was a desire to know a fact, not someone’s guess.

  9. says

    Barack Obama is rich. Oprah Winfrey is rich. Bill and Hillary Clinton are rich.Cindy Mccain is rich. I wanna be rich. You probably want to be rich.Millions, no, billions of people on this planet want to be rich. This is a non-issue.

    From what I understand the reason they own so many houses in San Diego is that the kids live in them. If my parents had that kind of money they would probably have several houses owned by a family trust and I would live in one. Wouldn’t you?

    I’m not a Mccain supporter at all. I’m just worried that we Dems are really picking minor and stupid things to get worked up about. We should focus on things that really matter like a womans right to choose or unfair tax loopholes etc..

    I also would stop the old age insults on Mccain. Senior citizens are the largest steady voting group in this country and probably aren’t real happy when young Obama supporters deride their life experience and achievements. While Obama hasn’t made these cracks on the blogs it’s routine for his supporters to do it. Not smart.

  10. Jean says

    You people. John Kerry’s wife was as wealthy as Cindy McCain, but I didn’t hear any of you blubbering about that four years ago. The Kennedys are certainly rich even by McCain standards, but everyone here continues to praise Ted Kennedy as something other than the murdering drunk that he is or JFK as anything more than a philandering husband of the kind with which even Bill Clinton could not compete.

    Since when it is a sin to be rich? Since when is someone a bad person because they are rich? You people need to get off your moral high horse and ask yourselves just how giving you are or have been with however much or little you have in your own wallets and stop judging. It’s pathetic that this is what Towleroad and its readers would choose to focus on. Stick to the issues.

  11. ANOTHERDEMOCRATICIDIOT says

    NOTEASILYOFFENDED:

    If you are so curious about the facts then perhaps you should check out them out before you start making outrageous innuendo, implication and suggestion that McCain is on the take to finance his lifestyle: even as a public figure you are coming dangerously close to libel of McCain. No one plays dirtier than Democrats, and you are Exhibit A.

  12. ANOTHERDEMOCRATICIDIOT says

    24PLAY: Did you get another dollar from the homophobic Obama campaign to post your drivel and personal attacks on gay men? Your candidate’s claim that God is in the sacred mix of marriage which precludes his acceptance of gay marriages is disgusting but perhaps the Obama postion explains his repeated appeals to the religious right, his attempt to expand the unconstitutional faith-based initiative program, and his flirtations with “ex-gay” Donnie McClurkin. 24PLAY: Are you self-loathing or just self-deluded in your support for McCain?

  13. noteasilyoffended says

    ADI: There is no libel and none was intended. I in no way suggested that McCain did any wrong. I was just saying that corruption is RAMPANT in our Congress and it looks kind of shady when someone in it has such purchasing power. It’s obvious you are a McCain supporter. I respect your right to have an opinion. McCain and his wealthy wife can buy whatever they want. It’s all just more of the same. We don’t live in a democracy any more. Power is held by the rich and connected. Our elections are a joke. Here’s a great book suggestion: “The Limits of Power”, by Andrew Bacevich.

  14. Dback says

    The Dems have to play this very, very carefully, lest they look like hypocrites on the issue–as several posters have pointed out, John Kerry certainly wasn’t poor, and neither for that matter was Al Gore. Lots of prominent Dems have had serious money. What makes the country-club Republican set grind their teeth to powder is, they tend not to just sit on their wealth–they make charitable donations, set up foundations, and say forthrightly, “You know, I can afford having my taxes raised if it’ll better America overall.” This is why Repubs who hated the New Deal still speak of FDR as a “traitor to his class.”

    However, based on the current economic situation in America, this is a fair point if the Dems phrase it correctly: it’s not a sin to have a lot of money. The problem is when you start living in a bubble and getting self-righteous about it, and criticize middle-class and working-class people for “not wanting to work” or “making bad choices,” etc. The average working-class family in America doesn’t have a wife worth a few million dollars, and five homes; they can barely work multiple jobs to keep the one they have. And when McCain surrounds himself with toad slime like Phil Gramm–who’s been manipulating the banking and financial institutions for years to his own benefit–who then dares to call average Americans “whiners” because they can’t afford $1.50 in mac and cheese for the third time this week, that’s where the rub comes in. McCain is just as out of touch as Bush if he thinks $5 million is “rich.” It’s the hypocrisy–the sense that most Americans are bailing water while the Republicans are cruising on their yachts–that stings.

  15. says

    ANOTHERDEMOCRATICIDIOT – you should look up what libel means before using it.

    that said, good for him that he is rich. and good for his wife. good for Theresa Kerry and Oprah Winfrey too.

    Our society is a capitalist one so that people can get rich and live the “American Dream.” What a bunch of BS that we are now faulting them for it.

    the majority of the have-nots will always complain until they become one of the haves. Then its “I’m aboard, pull up the ladder.”

    The notion that one can have a great business idea or plan and make millions on it is what makes this country great and why we are responsible for so much of the world’s innovation

  16. anotherdemocraticidiot says

    “It’s obvious you are a McCain supporter.”

    EASILYOFFENDED: I’m neither an Obama nor a McCain supporter: sorry to disappoint you. I came out of the political closet a long time ago and am in fact a Nader supporter because the Green Party has an inclusive platform which provides full equality for the LGBTQ community. I see no reason why a person would not vote in accordance with their principles, interests and convictions, and I find most Democrats — particularly Barack Obama with his repeated Christian affirmations to uphold the sacred institution of marriage as one reseved between a man and a woman — to be only a shade less homophobic than the Republicans. But hey, it’s your life, and if you want more of the same go ahead and vote for Barack Obama. And hey: if you become an “ex-gay” like Donnie McClurkin maybe Obama will invite you to his next staged campaign performance.

  17. Derrick from Philly says

    The difference is being rich with a social conscience–a la FDR. His goal was to use the excuse of the Great Depression to change America’s working poor into a large middle-class. He suceeded–long after his death. His programs & his legacy, especially the GI Bill, helped millions of American men to rise above being virtual slaves to the wealthy. (you kinda’ proud of me right now, Bill Perdue?)

    When the American middle-class chooses selfish Republican tax cuts over helping more poor folks to come out of poverty they spit on FDR’s gift to them.

    Rich Conservatives (or Republicans) seem to feel it’s natural to have a large working poor class. It’s the “natural order of things”. The Ted Kennedy’s of this country don’t believe that.

  18. Las Vegas says

    Here is a list of the top Senate millionairs…this is noting but cheap class warfare and shame on Towleroad for buying into it…this was copied off of cnn.com for 2003 figures..stick to the issues people…notice who are in the top five and their party…funny how no politicians are squawking about McCain and his money…

    John Kerry, D-Massachusetts: $163,626,399
    Herb Kohl, D-Wisconsin: $111,015,016
    John Rockefeller, D -West Virginia: $81,648,018
    Jon Corzine, D-New Jersey: $71,035,025
    Dianne Feinstein, D-California: $26,377,109
    Peter Fitzgerald, R-Illinois: $26,132,013
    Frank Lautenberg, D-New Jersey $17,789,018
    Bill Frist, R-Tennessee: $15,108,042
    John Edwards, D-North Carolina: $12,844,029
    Edward Kennedy, D-Massachusetts: $9,905,009
    Jeff Bingaman, D-New Mexico: $7,981,015
    Bob Graham, D-Florida: $7,691,052
    Richard Shelby, R-Alabama: $7,085,012
    Gordon Smith, R-Oregon: $6,429,011
    Lincoln Chafee, R-Rhode Island: $6,296,010
    Ben Nelson, D-Nebraska: $6,267,028
    Lamar Alexander, R-Tennessee: $4,823,018
    Mike DeWine, R-Ohio: $4,308,093
    Mark Dayton, D-Minnesota: $3,974,037
    Ben Campbell, R-Colorado: $3,165,007
    Chuck Hagel, R-Nebraska: $2,963,013
    Olympia Snowe, R-Maine: $2,955,037
    James Talent, R-Missouri: $2,843,031
    Arlen Specter, R-Pennsylvania: $2,045,016
    Judd Gregg, R-New Hampshire: $1,916,026
    John McCain, R-Arizona: $1,838,010
    James Inhofe, R-Oklahoma: $1,570,043
    John Warner, R-Virginia: $1,545,039
    Kay Bailey Hutchison, R – Texas: $1,513,046
    Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky: $1,511,017
    Harry Reid, D-Nevada: $1,500,040
    Sam Brownback, R-Kansas: $1,491,018
    Thomas Carper, D-Delaware: $1,482,017
    Ted Stevens, R-Alaska: $1,417,013
    Maria Cantwell, D-Washington: $1,264,999
    Barbara Boxer, D-California: $1,172,003
    Orrin Hatch, R-Utah: $1,086,023
    Mary Landrieu, D-Louisiana: $1,080,014
    Bill Nelson, D-Florida: $1,073,014
    Charles Grassley, R-Iowa: $1,016,024
    *These figures are base estimates provided by senators on their financial disclosure forms.

  19. urmissingthepoint says

    You are all missing the point. It’s not about how wealthy he is or how many homes he has… who cares? It’s about rich Republicans portraying themsleves as simple people with down home values while painting Democrats as out of touch elitists. The shrub’s campaign took that approach with Kerry and McCain appears to be doing the same with Obama. The hypocrisy is infuriating!!

  20. ANOTHERDEMOCRATICIDIOT says

    FYI:

    This just out:

    According to a press release from OutNewsWire, 68 percent of gay adults will vote for Barack Obama, 10 percent will vote for John McCain, three percent choose Ralph Nader, and one percent supports Bob Barr. The other 18 percent is still undecided. According to the latest Harris Poll, Obama has an eight point lead over John McCain among all registered U.S. voters.

  21. Strepsi says

    THANKS URMISSINGTHEPOINT! Just as with closeted Republican Sentaors, it’s not the issue, it’s the HYPOCRISY! The McCain Campaign did damage to Obama this summer, painting him as an “effete elitist”, and McCain as “simple folk”. Idiots (i.e. the U.S. electorate) have bought this line from the GOP ever since the first Bush convinced them he was just a nice old guy who liked fishin’ (not the millionaire ex-director of the CIA!!!) the Dems should just call it and say, “Effete elitist? Obama’s not the one wearing $500 designer shoes, bitch.” But I liked their ad. Hit back! Hit back hard!

  22. Las Vegas says

    Dear urmissingthepoint

    I’m sorry take another hit off the pipe because that is exactly what they want you to think. This is why I laugh when I see Al Gore flying around the world in his private jet telling me to change my light bulbs. This “man of the people” act from BOTH sides is absolutely so out of touch with the reality of the situation it is ridiculous.

    Nancy Pelosi bitched and complained that she needed a private jet to go back and forth to California that was big enough for her staff. All of these politicians are looking to tell you that they understand your pain.

    They all hope that you are stupid enough to buy that the other guy is “out of touch” when really it is you who are the most out of touch with reality. Do me a favor drink a little more kool-aid and make sure it has a side of Drano.

  23. las vegas says

    Hey strepsi I got a giant folder full of polls from a few years back showing a landslide victory Gore…I even have a couple of framed ones from another election showing Harry Truman going down in flames from Dewey.

    Stop trying to hype what’s not there ….it’s going to be REALLY close again.

  24. Derrick from Philly says

    Yes, LAS VEGAS,

    but which party is more likely to raise taxes on the rich? Somebody’s got to pay for Bush’s War.

    And which party is more likely to tax the huge profits of the oil companies?

    URMISSINGTHEPOINT is making the most important point of this thread. Many rich Democratic politicians don’t pretend to be like the “average Joe” out there. They admit to their status and show a healthy dose social responsibility because of it (that’s why Blumberg is really a Democratic. hee hee).

    How do Republicans show they care about “average Americans”? Why do Republican economic policies always result in the rich getting richer, while “average” folks’ condition remains the same…or worse.

    No, rich Democrates are not going to give up their wealth, and they are not going threaten the financial status of other rich Americans. They just don’t believe in having a “let them eat cake” attitude for the working poor and poor, and they show it with their votes in the House and Senate.

  25. Las Vegas says

    Derrick,

    What happened to the middle class tax cuts from Clinton? He promised them and won the election and then backed off when he realized it wasn’t necessarily the correct thing to do but hey he won so what?

    Perhaps I could serve you some cheese with that self serving whine you seem to posses. Taxing the rich to solve the problems of the poor is a pie in the sky attitude. When you do this the rich merely learn to hide the money better. For example both the Clintons and the Kennedys and many others squirrel their money away in tax free foundations and then go from there.

    If you did a little research instead of merely spouting talking points you would realize that there are multiple layers to the issue of oil company profits. First company porifts stated on news programs are gross profits of the companies. You can take at east 60% of that off the top for corporate taxes that go right back to the government. On average oil companies make between 7 and 10 cents a gallon profit on the gas you pump.

    Additionally any more taxes forced upon oil companies will be passed to the consumer..so you’ll be paying more. The only way to stop that is to nationalize the oil industry in this country…which would probably cause a revolution…

    Also, these corporations are part of a larger web of the economy with large investments by retirement funds, mutual funds, and government retirement packages. So this would affect millions of people including the elderly who depend on that investment income every month. But hey screw them..huh…because it’s big business and they must be evil cause Obama spoketh it from the mountain.

    If you think that windfall taxes are the answer then take a look at the mark up of many products you use because toothpaste has a bigger mark up return on purchase than gas.

    Frankly I think many Democrats DO pretend to be the average Joe out there. Pretending to be socially active for groups such as gays is what Clintons did best. Then once there they couldn’t deliver. I’ll take a monster in front of me I can battle over one that’s around the corner and can’t be seen. So far I have been very unimpressed with Mr Obama and he has yet to deliver anything remotely encouraging to the gay community. Yet because he’s a Democrat it seems everyone just thinks he is going to come through for the team. We’ve been down this road before and yet know one seems to learnt he lessons of the past so here again we’re going to repeat them.

    We had a Democratic president once who had problems with the oil companies, didn’t have much of a record to run on, came out of nowhere, edged out a more experienced opponent and went on to win the White House.

    He wanted to “talk” instead of taking action. This attitude got us gas lines, shortages, hostages taken, and in a huge mess. I can guess I can look on the bright side though after four years of that idiot we got Reagan for eight..because an unknown with no record and a few lofty words got lucky.

    They say everything old is new so I guess the 70s are coming back again.

  26. Nick says

    I think that list of wealthiest Senators is bunk. It appears to combine John Kerry’s (and perhaps others) wealth along with their wives and doesn’t do the same for John McCain (and others). Cindy is worth over $100M dollars, and as such, John McCain should actually be near the top of the list.

  27. Las Vegas says

    huh, when CNN reports something you agree with it’s fact but something you don’t like it’s bunk…It’s what they reported..so perhaps John McCain doesn’t file jointly..if you really want to take a fine tooth comb to this you are right there is one person on there that should be waaay at the top and that is Kennedy who has buried his money in a family foundation..That compound is worth more than what he reports for income. That’s not the point…the point was that not one of those people who love to jump in front of the cameras to bend the middle class over with new taxes will feel it that hard themselves. The only way this will change is a fundamental change from the top down..If all you want to do is sit there and complain about the evil Republicans and their nominee then you deserve exactly what you get in a few months.

  28. says

    Las Vegas:

    Let’s just hope that what we get in a few months is not a McCain presidency, which would be a disaster for

    anyone not rich (making $5 million plus)

    anyone GLBT (adoption? marriage? supreme court?)

    anyone against wars for no good reason

    anyone who cares about keeping abortion safe and legal

    basically anyone BUT selfish rich people who don’t give a damn about the rest of the world.

  29. rc says

    Why did the woman get a 2400/month mortgage when her income was 2200/month? The lenders lent her more than they should have and she should have read the print that said her mortgage interest would go up after 3 yrs and realized she should get a fixed mortgage.

  30. Las Vegas says

    Hey Kevin does that cue card with talking points come with a free Obama doll? Considering that Vermont wanted to pull out of the union anything that comes out that state but Ben & Jerry’s ice cream is pretty much as useless as your talking points.

    How about coming up with something original instead of the latest rant from some leftist blog site. Geez another kool aid drinker from Brattleboro I bet.

  31. says

    Maybe I should work for the campaign, if it sounds like talking points. No, just a logical thinker here, and those are the things that came to mind first.

    Interesting that you would rag on Vermont, given that our liberal state was the first to provide Civil Unions, which at the moment still grant the same rights as a MA or CA marriage.

    Probably a straight troll. Your post sounds remarkably like the kind of thing I read over at the wingnutdaily.

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