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CNN Exit Polls: 27% of Gays Voted for McCain

CNN's exit poll data says that 27% of gays voted for McCain in this election.

MccainAccording to the Log Cabin Republicans, that's up from 20% four years ago. They write: "That equals 1.3 million votes - the most any Republican candidate for President has received."

I reported last June that 14% of gays favored McCain while 60% favored Obama. That's quite a jump, and both numbers astonish me, quite frankly.

This was a candidate who didn't even know what the acronym LGBT stood for. He also didn't believe in gay adoption, supported a ban on gays in the military, worried if his clothing looked too gay, isn't sure if condoms stop the spread of HIV, thought same-sex marriage ceremonies were okay as long as they were fake, and promised right-wing religious groups that he's speak out against LGBT causes.

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  1. OK: Of the CNN sample, 68 people said they were GLBT. So 17 or 18 of these folks supported McCain, and about 49 voted for Obama. 68 people is hardly a representative sample of our community!

    Posted by: taloisi | Nov 6, 2008 9:46:43 AM


  2. MORE republican than four years ago?

    Disgusting! those gays should be ashamed of themselves.

    Posted by: dolly | Nov 6, 2008 9:46:43 AM


  3. In the 80's when the Log Heads voted for Reagan, they too used the 'more than one issue', when AIDS was the issue, the other issue sadly is the same today. Their wallets.

    Posted by: patrick nyc | Nov 6, 2008 9:47:39 AM


  4. How dare some gays think for themselves? How dare they not march in lockstep with everyone else?

    Doesn't everyone know the only approved types of diversity in the gay movement are race and trannies?

    Posted by: PeePee | Nov 6, 2008 9:55:18 AM


  5. Even more amazing/distrubing news this morning, and, I wonder how many voted for YES on 8? Since the scapegoating has started about why it passed, may as well ask those gays who voted GOP and fell for the hate and self hate if they were for it in Cali and other states including Arizona where McCain backed it twice.

    But, it is America and people are free to vote for whom they want, although, this is a odd one. Bob Barr or Cyntiha McKinney would have been a better choice for them.

    Posted by: Sebastian | Nov 6, 2008 9:57:38 AM


  6. I think that part of that would be just as many of the votes that put Prop 8 in were black, many of the gay votes against our own interests were not FOR McCain so much as they were AGAINST Barack Obama (most likely due to racism).

    I witnessed one "friend" online who posted his early voting ballot to flickr. When confronted about and asked for a reason why he would vote for McCain, rather than saying giving an actual platform leaning (perhaps abortion rights or the war in Iraq) he stated that it was due to his "being raised in the South"...which felt like code for "I'm a racist"

    Posted by: Bryan Irrera | Nov 6, 2008 10:13:17 AM


  7. 1/2 of voting age gays in CA aren't even registered to vote

    1/3 of registered gay voters didn't even vote

    prop 8 is ahead by 400,000 votes 4% and just the non voting registered gays in CA would have equaled another 7% and we would be ahed by 3%

    unregistered gay voters in california would have given us 10% more = 6% ahead

    Registered gays CA who didn't vote + unregstered ca gays = 17% more for our side and we would have won at +13% ahead

    the blame is ALL ours gay CA

    Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Nov 6, 2008 10:15:15 AM


  8. Peepee: "How dare some gays think for themselves" you mock? The whole point is that voting for a ticket whose party platform is EXPLICITLY anti-gay is that you're NOT thinking for or of yourself.

    I don't agree with being a "one-issue" voter. That means if someone is gonna raise your taxes you better think twice about voting against them if they're also in favor of X, Y and Z other issues that may affect you as much or more.

    But if you're voting for a candidate (two, actually, counting his imbecilic veep) who is openly against gay rights, that is not "one issue," that is who you are. The sex you have is not who you are, but being gay is—it's an identity.

    It would be like a black person voting for a ticket that was explicitly anti-black, that wanted to disallow blacks from marrying or adopting or enjoying equal rights. 27% of black people would not be so stupid to vote against themselves, even if 70% of black voters in California ARE that stupid to be enslaved to religion and to vote against gay marriage. (My bias: I think religion is a joke and people who filter their lives through it are mentally challenged, at least in that one regard.) I don't agree with their vote, but it's a lot easier to see how they would vote against another group than it would be to see how they would vote against themselves.

    27% is disgusting and embarrassing. It shows, since it's a jump up from Bush, that McCain somehow successfully kept his "maverick" label for those voters, because 27% is a figure I would have expected when he first announced his candidacy, back when he was less obviously a sell-out to the far right.

    Then again, I can't stand a lot more than 27% of gay people I meet, so I guess the % isn't that bad! ha

    Posted by: Matthew Rettenmund | Nov 6, 2008 10:17:39 AM


  9. Darling, dear!

    How soon you forget that that there is "rampant" racial discrimination in the gay and lesbian community. Just because we are an oppressed minority does not mean we do not have our own nice little set of bigoted racial nut cases!

    Posted by: Godfrey | Nov 6, 2008 10:17:45 AM


  10. Given the fact that most homosexuals are probably in the closet how in the world does any news organization really get an accurate sample of the "gay" vote? This is one exit sample that I would ignore completely. There are just way too many DL people in the world for anyone to think they can accurately sample the homosexual population during an exit poll. And for those who want to cast dispersion on Blacks for supporting prop 8, let's also remember that Black's played a more critical role in making Obama president. Frankly if we were to have to chose between having prop 8 passed or having Obama elected I think most of us would chose Obama over 8. So let's thank Black voters all over the country for what they did to make that a reality.

    Posted by: KBR | Nov 6, 2008 10:18:35 AM


  11. Darling, dear!

    How soon you forget that that there is "rampant" racial discrimination in the gay and lesbian community. Just because we are an oppressed minority does not mean we do not have our own nice little set of bigoted racial nut cases!

    Posted by: Godfrey | Nov 6, 2008 10:19:21 AM


  12. Maybe this vote will serve as a wake-up call to many to show them once and for all that the black community, by and large, is not our ally.

    They do not equate, and actually resent, any civil rights comparison.

    Posted by: ATLSteve | Nov 6, 2008 10:20:09 AM


  13. LightningLord, as you were addressing me with your very self-serving creative contortions, I'll just address you right back.

    6.1% of the California voters. (12% of the entire population.) Thus 6.1% of 37000000 (You can extract from the total here for clarity.) That amounts to 2.25 million voters. 70% of that is 1.6 million. Yes, if only 35% had voted No it'd be 800000, etc etc.

    But other groups with much larger population numbers also voted Yes on 8, and a LOT of supposedly liberal white Californians voted for 8 as well. The only racism here YOUR blame laying on black voters. I or no one else would suggest that the yes votes of black CA voters was not detrimental...they certainly were. But to blame them solely as you did in your first post is, well, stupid and demonstrates a non-understanding of statistical and situational facts.

    Posted by: Ben | Nov 6, 2008 10:21:57 AM


  14. Precisely why we have a gay population rather than a gay community. We span ALL demographics. The only thing we have in common is our sexual orientation.

    I am appalled that some gays support figures and proposals that strip rights away from others, but I'm not surprised. To say that we're all clever, liberal, and creative is a myth.

    We try to appear that we're united and all-inclusive with our politically correct GBLT tag, but it just isn't true. There is so much division and segregation in our population. There are genuine caring people amongst us, but face it, we're notoriously self centered individuals.

    Posted by: Mark in NYC | Nov 6, 2008 10:23:20 AM


  15. If the numbers are correct, it boggles my mind, but then again I'm not a gay Republican. To those insinuating that gay Obama supporters were one issue voters, equality issues aside (as if), McCain/Palin was still a terrible, backwards-looking choice, as the majority of the country--most voting with gay issues far off the radar screen--confirmed. Not a good week to be a Log Cabin Republican. Someone should set up a hotline.

    P.S. Interesting that the black voters destroyed equality in CA theme has even moved to this thread, which has nothing to do with that. But I suppose inflaming race wars takes the losing Republican strategy into the future.

    Posted by: Ernie | Nov 6, 2008 10:24:27 AM


  16. atlsteve go sit in a corner in your KKK robes, the adults are talking

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    1/2 of voting age gays in CA aren't even registered to vote

    1/3 of registered gay voters didn't even vote

    prop 8 is ahead by 400,000 votes 4% and just the non voting registered gays in CA would have equaled another 7% and we would be ahed by 3%

    unregistered gay voters in california would have given us 10% more = 6% ahead

    Registered gays CA who didn't vote + unregstered ca gays = 17% more for our side and we would have won at +13% ahead

    the blame is ALL ours gay CA

    Posted by: Jimmyboyo | Nov 6, 2008 10:27:13 AM


  17. Just one thing to point out: that number was taken from an exit poll. And wasn't EVERY news source (including Towleroad) decrying the use of exit polls this year??

    So NOW we're supposed to actually pay attention to ?

    I have a feeling this is b.s. I'd like to know exactly where those numbers came from.

    Posted by: jeffjeffjeff | Nov 6, 2008 10:27:31 AM


  18. Proud gay republican here. If you think it's just about greed, you're wrong. There are many issues from the economy to defense to healthcare. What's so offensive to so many of us gay republicans is the assumption that we must be liberal on all issues. Sorry, but that's absurd. My being born gay didn't also make me born a pacifist or fiscal liberal or whatever. On the national level especially, there are so many issues to be concerned about. Also, it doesn't help for the Democrats to talk out of both sides of their mouths on gay issues.

    Oh, and I seriously doubt many gay republicans supported prop 8, so cut that baseless charge out. These are self-identified gay men. If you want to look for closet cases or self loathers, look to the family men that supported it in droves.

    Posted by: Um no | Nov 6, 2008 10:27:41 AM


  19. ...and enough with the racist rhetoric.

    As Jimmyboyo continues to point out, the blame is ours. Let's accept it, learn from it, and move the battle forward.

    Posted by: Mark in NYC | Nov 6, 2008 10:36:03 AM


  20. You know Steve, your words can be reversed, there are many in the gay community who hate blacks as much as anyone else as a glance at just about any gay board shows. Until there is a equality within the gay community and outreach to people of color that we share the same concerns and issues, there will always be a divide.

    GOP gay voter? A bad joke at best since the moderates have long since left that party and its run by the right wing, chuch going hate crowd.

    Posted by: Luke | Nov 6, 2008 10:43:43 AM


  21. Thank you for breaking it down, Jimmyboyo.

    Your response needs to be cut and pasted every time someone posts that racist argument.

    Posted by: Q | Nov 6, 2008 11:08:31 AM


  22. ATLSTEVE, that is a ridiculous statement when you consider that millions of the votes that came in favor of the Prop passing were from white voters. Does that, by your logic, now mean that we should consider the white population our enemy as well?

    Also keep in mind that are also blacks WITHIN the gay community + that hundreds of thousands of black voters were also voting against Prop 8.

    Keep your divisive notions to yourself, thanks.

    P.S. While a lot of people are indirectly blaming Obama's driving black voters to the polls for prop 8 passing, also remember that he drove tons of young voters to the polls (who voted more in opposition to Prop 8).

    It's not "unite + conquer", people. It's "divide + conquer".

    Keep alienating the black allies + fellow members of the gay community due to the actions of some of the black voters + we will all suffer as a result.

    Posted by: Fredo | Nov 6, 2008 11:31:05 AM


  23. LET'S TALK ABOUT A BIGGER BETRAYAL.

    In California, 70% of African-Americans voted to ban gay marriage. No other ethnic group comes even close, with the rest of them in the 40%s and 50%s.

    I guess some think "equality" is just for them.

    With friends like these...


    Source: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#CAI01p1

    Posted by: rrgg | Nov 6, 2008 11:32:00 AM


  24. RRGG, as a black gay man, allow me to say one thing: F*ck you.

    Posted by: Fredo | Nov 6, 2008 11:37:16 AM


  25. I voted McCain and am quite proud of it.

    I predict that Obama's victory has destroyed the progress we had made toward limiting the amount of money in political campaigns. By shunning the public finance system, and raising obscene amounts of money, he has guaranteed that the Republican candidate in the next election will need to do the same.

    All this money corrupts the whole system, and every issue: health care, fiscal policy, and even gay rights issues. The democrats used to care about this issue.

    McCain ran a campaign that did not demonize the LGBT community, and his campaign staff shows he can work with and respect the gay community. Those who argue that the Republican party is controlled by hate mongering right wingers should stop demonizing the moderates in the party, like McCain, who don't fit that description.

    Posted by: bmorg | Nov 6, 2008 11:37:54 AM


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