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Marc Shaiman and Company Talk About Prop 8: The Musical


Marc Shaiman, Jack Black and John C. Reilly appeared on Countdown with Keith Olbermann to discuss the Prop 8: The Musical web sensation, how and why it was conceived, and how they all came to participate.

Shaiman also spoke with the NYT about the web video, his Prop 8 activism, and said he felt "burdened" by the resignation of the California Musical Theatre's musical director Scott Eckern, who he slammed in a public letter for his contributions to the passage of Proposition 8. Said Shaiman: "I did not ask for his resignation, nor would it be my place to ask for someone’s resignation. But I was a part of that, and that is a very heavy weight, and I don’t take it lightly."

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  1. They shouldn't be that proud of it. Its ending almost nullifies the rest.

    C for effort.

    Posted by: protogenes | Dec 8, 2008 11:37:25 AM

  2. After the Fact AFTER THE FACT. Where on EARTH were these people BEFORE the passing of prop 8? And NOW they have no fear in calling out the Radical Religious Extremists? WTF? I'm all for parody, but if they think it's funny they're mistaken. It's tragedy now as Civil Rights have been taken away and all they can do is "Put on a play" how 1940s.

    Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | Dec 8, 2008 12:14:13 PM

  3. Prop 8 the Musical is glib and condescending. People who oppose gay marriage won't suddenly be won over when they realize that there's so much money to be made from gay nuptials.

    This show presents the opposition as cartoons and pretty much turns gays into cartoons in the process, too. This "we're enlightened yuppies and you're a bunch of starchy olde-timey killjoys" crap doesn't work. It never works.

    Write a musical about Prop 8 by all means, but write an effective one, not this self-regarding b.s.

    Posted by: FASTLAD | Dec 8, 2008 12:22:32 PM

  4. Much more important than any delusions they might have about the satire changing a lot of minds in the future is the implication that Shaiman is backtracking from his opposition to the ability of gay haters like the CMT music director to make money off gay creations, such as Shaiman's works, and gay paying audiences.

    READ MY LIPS: homophobia is JUST as evil as racism, antiSemitism, and sexism [from which it is, in fact, a byproduct]. Would he feel "burdened" about condemning someone who gave money to take rights away from blacks, Latinos, Asians, Jews, or women?

    Would the two great black actors, Don Cheadle and Forest Whitacker, on the board of the LA Film Festival have refused to accept the resignation of its director had they found out he gave money to take rights away from blacks rather than gays?

    Perhaps they, and Shaiman, should study the words from OVER TWENTY-YEARS ago of Martin Luther King, Jr.'s, mentor, the incredible black gay sage Bayard Rustin:

    "Today, blacks are no longer the litmus paper or the barometer of social change. Blacks are in every segment of society and there are laws that help to protect them from racial discrimination. The new ‘niggers’ are gays. No person who hopes to get politically elected, even in the deep South…would dare stand in the school door to keep blacks out. Nobody would dare openly and publicly argue that blacks should not have the right to public accommodations. Nobody would dare to say any number of things about blacks that they are perfectly prepared to say about gay people. It is in that sense that gay people are the new barometer for social change."

    Posted by: Leland Frances | Dec 8, 2008 2:28:32 PM

  5. "Bitter -- party of 3!"

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Dec 8, 2008 2:49:13 PM

  6. I can't believe people are saying that the musical hurts gays. If anything at all, it still brings up valid points about separation of the church from the state, economic issues and will encourage discussion, and that is exactly what we need right now. We need gays to be presented in a formidable light and that we are just like anyone else.

    Posted by: Aiden Raccoon | Dec 9, 2008 7:14:17 AM

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