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07/17/2009
Rachel Maddow Rips Pat Buchanan Over Sotomayor Racism
On the subject of Sotomayor's appointment to the Supreme Court, Buchanan is pissed the old white man's club is being invaded. Asks Buchanan: "Why is it okay to discriminate against white males?"
Rachel basically rips him two new ones — eyeholes for his Klan hat, that is.
Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...
Posted 8:33 AM EST by Andy Towle in News, Pat Buchanan, Rachel Maddow | Permalink
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I watched live last night, and it was some stunning television. Classic Buchanan, and once again demonstrating by his foam-at-the-mouth rage why he's one of the best friends the Democrats have. I have no doubt that Republicans lost votes in 1992 due to his "God's Country" speech at their convention.
Rachel handed Buchanan that intellectual equivalent of a body-slam.
Posted by: Hank | Jul 17, 2009 8:43:01 AM
After that display of blatant racism and ignorance Buchanan should be let go from MSNBC. It's time for him to go away.
Posted by: Realitythink | Jul 17, 2009 8:51:05 AM
Sing it Rachel!
Posted by: dp | Jul 17, 2009 9:02:52 AM
Once again, a Republican chooses to base an argument on fallacy and distortion. No minorities at Normandy? Tell that to John Noble Roberts and his missing leg.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5456233/African-American-D-Day-veterans-celebrate-Barack-Obamas-trip-to-Normandy.html
Posted by: timgunn's uncle | Jul 17, 2009 9:26:21 AM
Remember Molly Ivins' great line about Buchanan's GOP convention speech in 1992?
"Many Americans did not care for Pat Buchanan's speech, but it sounded better in the original German."
It was all over when Rachel said Sotomayor has more experience on the bench than any nominee of the last 70 years, including Roberts and Alito, who by Buchanan's own standards were unqualified.
Posted by: MikeMick | Jul 17, 2009 9:26:59 AM
Rachel totally punked Pat, from the start with the “Its Pat” label under his picture to the cut off at the point of his worst invectives at the very end. Poor old Pat he is so old and hard of hearing he thinks the boos and jeers from the audience is actually applause.
Posted by: ggreen | Jul 17, 2009 9:28:26 AM
Buchanan over the last few years has sort of taken on this "aw shucks" personality at MSNBC. Sort of like a fatherly, wise old soul. If you look at some of things he has written about Nazi Germany(bascially Hitler was just misunderstood),he clearly hasn't changed. Having said that,I say keep him and ideas front and center. America needs to see that this is what the Republican Party has to offer.
Posted by: CB | Jul 17, 2009 9:36:10 AM
Are you kidding me? Liberally-minded people and almost any one born in the US after 1975 loves to watch her and other MSNBC talking heads hand Pat Buchanan his ass. The interaction makes for good TV. Pat may be a stodgy old white man but he's not always wrong (analog clock cliché in their somewhere). With that said, he is very good at taking some of his better ideas and dressing them up in such a way as to be as offensive to as many people as possible. For instance his views on WWI and WWII are quite interesting and actually not all that bad. He tends to trend toward being anti-war to a larger degree than most Democrats but you would never realize it because he is stuck in 1950-something.
Posted by: Jason Young | Jul 17, 2009 9:45:35 AM
I guess you people cannot understand the words over your idol worship of the lesbian.
Pat Buchanan completely owned Maddow in this debate and Maddow lost her cool. She only cares about demographics and nothing about Sotomayors lack of impartiality.
Buchanan said the absolute home run when he said that White men are the greatest victims of racism in this era of over sensitivity.
Why people are completely ignoring the fact that she DISCRIMINATED against the fire fighters SOLELY based on race.
THAT SHOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE DISQUALIFIER FOR THE SUPREME COURT
Posted by: Eric | Jul 17, 2009 9:59:05 AM
Eric needs to take his meds.
Posted by: Hank | Jul 17, 2009 10:05:18 AM
Oh great!! Now we even have freepers lurking on this site too.
How much did they pay you for that post chump?
Posted by: Realitythink | Jul 17, 2009 10:10:05 AM
That really hurt my head. There's such an odd disconnect about people who talk about this nation's minorities as though they've just magically appeared 5 minutes ago. Pat's in the same breath mentioning the exception to the rule it is that a "Latina" gets to an Ivy Leauge School (especially in their generation) , and talking about how shameful it is that discrimination exists...when it pertains to the socio-political majority only. Personally, I think Ms. Maddow was too kind here.
Posted by: g_whiz | Jul 17, 2009 10:11:20 AM
Isn't this like watching clothes go round in a dryer? Pat Buchanan IS a racist! What's news about that?
Hello! Buchanan has been a vicious racist publicly for the last 40 years. Last year he appeared on a neo-Nazi news show.
But Buchanan is an old white guy Republican. He's the accepted norm. No matter what kind of sexist, racist, homophobic or anti-Semitic thing Buchanan says, he always has a place at the big table on CNN, MSNBC, etc.
Posted by: nate | Jul 17, 2009 10:19:08 AM
Other people feel much better about Pat on MSNBC than I do. I think putting him on TV is like having Rick Warren at the inauguration: it's treating a repulsive bigot as though his ideas were part of the cultural mainstream. He doesn't even make Republicans look bad because his brand of extreme racism really went out in the 1980s. That doesn't mean that it isn't dangerous to put him on the air to spew really disgusting racist tripe.
And Rachel disgusts me when she acts like he's just a cute, cranky old guy. If my REAL uncle said that sort of shit in front of me, I would not be smiling and calling him "Uncle Pat."
Posted by: Landon Bryce | Jul 17, 2009 10:26:27 AM
I agree with those who have said it's better to have 'ol Pat up front where we can keep an eye on him and his ilk.
Maybe she'll have him back for round 2...tee hee
Posted by: L. Irwin | Jul 17, 2009 10:34:37 AM
Agree with Landon!
The fact that Buchanan is treated by, given a platform by, MSM as if he were NOT a racist, sexist, homohating bigot has enraged me for four decades.
That said, he'll probably die, a white-haired bag of wrinkles, on air still spewing his fascism.
Posted by: Michael @ LeonardMatlovich.com | Jul 17, 2009 10:39:36 AM
Eric,
If you really believe that white men in the U.S. are the greatest victims of racism then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you to buy.
Get real. All statistical indicators disprove your statement whether in terms of employment, life expectancy, criminal prosecution, incarceration rates, victimization of hate crimes, etc. all disprove your thesis.
What evidence do you have to prove your point?
Finally, Pat Buchanan has a LONG history of anti-gay statements. You just joined forces with someone who wishes your destruction. Bravo!
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2553
http://i3.democracynow.org/1996/2/20/pat_buchanans_history_of_anti_semitism
http://www.queerty.com/pat-buchanan-you-cannot-violate-the-laws-of-human-nature-20090417/
Posted by: nate | Jul 17, 2009 10:44:33 AM
I'll avoid the affirmative action issue, and say this:
Mr Buchanan needs to reread his history books, he is sadly mistaken on a number of issues.
As for Judge Sotomayor, well, she may have gotten into law school based on her race and class, but she didn't get her grades based on it, and BUSH didn't appoint her to the appellate bench because of it.
Posted by: DR | Jul 17, 2009 10:50:54 AM
"This is a country that was basically built by white folks."
Umm... this is a country that was "built" by poor whites and exponentially more enslaved/indentured minorities while wealthy whites manipulated from the big houses in the South and the mansions in Newport. It astounds that this asshat (and this Eric guy who commented before me) thinks whites men are the greatest victims of racism today. Last I checked, most institutions in which affirmative action is applied are still predominantly white and male. Is it the end of the world to believe a system could be improved by a diversity of thought which is certainly facilitated by a diversity of background? Regardless of the region of this country, the races don't "mix" as much as we'd like to believe. So, if affirmative action looks ugly, then it seems we're holding a mirror to our actions rather than our words. Take the Hispanic girl out of the Bronx and send her to the ivory tower. She just might kick ass and become a Supreme Court justice.
And those instances where white males were discriminated against are wrong. Reverse racism is wrong. But to say that white males are being punished "in this era of oversensitivity" is laughable. Don't blame it on affirmative action. Blame on the fact that whites are quickly becoming a minority in this country, and the sad truth that minorities (by the numbers, not just by race) don't have as loud a voice as one would believe. The system has to change so that those who are not in power feel completely powerless. Otherwise, white males WILL become the new black male. And that's just too much hypocrisy to think about before my morning coffee.
Posted by: Michael | Jul 17, 2009 10:54:45 AM
that he believes 100% of the Soldiers who died at Normandy were White Males?? What about all the Jewish,African-Americans, Italian, Latinos, Japanese-American veterans, all of whom at the time where subjects of discrimination by "white America", this man has his head so far up his "White Ass" it's unbelievable! For an Irish Catholic Male, whose family was most likely subjected to "WASP" discrimination when they arrived here he has a short memory of what discrimination is all about!
Posted by: alex in boston | Jul 17, 2009 10:57:34 AM
Wow --- he really is just a Klan member in a suit --- I knew that already but never heard him speak so openly about it.
Imagine being soooooooooo stupid to claim only WHITE AMERICANS died at Normandy in the late 1940's!
Right no Black, Asian, Latin or American Indians were drafted. Such an evil man.
Posted by: Willie | Jul 17, 2009 11:01:11 AM
So Don Imus get fired for a stupid joke - but this guy gets to keep his job !!!
MSNBC ... fire Pat now! Let him go to Fox News.
Posted by: Willie | Jul 17, 2009 11:01:53 AM
Hank - what she found was that the testing process in place was not supporting the stated goal of the city to integrate the fire fighting force.... which is disproportional more white than the community itself. Period.
They all were going to be able to retest.
FOUR! of the 9 current Supreme Court Justices (including the one she is replacing) agreed with her!
SO Shut the fuck up and stop repeating the right wing talking points.
Have a nice day.
Posted by: Willie | Jul 17, 2009 11:05:01 AM
"Migwell" Estrada? Frank "Ricky"? If he likes Estrada and Ricci so damn much couldn't he have learned how to pronounce their names?
Posted by: MTS | Jul 17, 2009 11:06:17 AM
Well, if we lived in a fair racial society I'd agree with him on getting the best we can get, no matter race, gender or identity.
But we don't.
His idea is not wrong, it is actually the fairest and best one, but we don't live in a equal country yet and so it does not work.
Posted by: Rafael | Jul 17, 2009 11:15:37 AM