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  1. Mike says

    Wow, classy! Too bad none of the comments were recorded – would have loved to see them blasted over the airwaves so America could see the hatred that Fox News and their ilk cultivate.

  2. Rafael says

    Not surprising, when the Republican leadership dares to publicly threaten their fellow Congressmen by promising them defeat in November and telling them that they would hold up and take hostage any nominations the President may offer them. To me, this behavior is childish and illustrates the very reason why the Republican Establishment should to be thrown out of Congress.

    To these people, stop wasting your time and go read the actual legislation:

    http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h4872rh.txt.pdf

  3. Fred says

    Tea Party people want reduced government, less spending, and liberty — you know, the founding principles of the USA. One crank shouting a homophobic remark is not representative of all Tea Party folk.

    But if you’re going to be critical, shine a light on the Dems too. You don’t think there are homophobes in your ranks? Even Obama himself opposes gay marriage because of his fake, cynically adopted religion, and he’s one of the kindlier ones.

    I just wonder what song you’ll be singing when the Dems are tossed out of Congress in November. I’ll be listening, when I’m not celebrating…

  4. Rafael says

    @Fred

    Yes there are fair minded people within the Tea Party. The fact that they excluded Same Sex Marriage from their Contract For America (http://www.thecontract.org/) says a lot about their political philosophy. But the Tea Party has been hijacked and used by elected Republicans who have forged a nexus between their base of Social Conservatives and Tea Parties. To us, it is hard to distinguish between the two, when they are in bed with one another.

  5. Name: says

    I’ve only seen Barney Frank a couple of times. Once in Boston, he was coming out of the Fairmount Copley Hotel and a annual lesbian march was coming by, he ducked back in the hotel so they wouldn’t see him and said, “that was close”. The other was at the Boat Slip in Provincetown. He was sitting fully clothed by the pool and leering over his Boston Globe all afternoon at the young boys. He never stood up for gay marriage in Massachusetts when it was being debated. Instead he said it was, “not the right time”. He’s said repeatedly it wasn’t time to repeal DADT. He had no knowledge of the brothel/prostitution occurring under his roof. As a gay Massachusetts resident my whole life, I don’t feel like he represents me at all.

  6. Zach says

    “Tea Party people want reduced government, less spending, and liberty — you know, the founding principles of the USA.”

    Reduced government? Where were they eight years ago? Less spending? Where were they when the Bush Administration was racking up trillions of dollars of debt? More liberty? Where were they nine years ago, when government became far more intrusive and pervasive then at any other time since the 1950s?

    “One crank shouting a homophobic remark is not representative of all Tea Party folk.”

    No, simply the vast, vast majority of them.

    The Tea Party is a fringe movement filled with right-wing extremists.

    “I just wonder what song you’ll be singing when the Dems are tossed out of Congress in November. I’ll be listening, when I’m not celebrating…”

    Yes, let’s all celebrate as a cowardly Congress is replaced by one that completely and unequivocally opposes equal rights for gays and will do everything in its power to roll back the ones you do have. What a happy day!

    Honestly, I don’t know what’s more depressing. Closet cases who are so psychologically tormented that they don’t miss a beat when obstructing gay rights, or openly gay conservatives, who cheerfully stand beside people who would throw them in a cell if given the opportunity.

  7. Zach says

    And I’d love to know what socialist overlord Obama has actually done to curb liberty. Because I’m starting to think ‘socialist’ has become teabagger code for ‘uppity.’

  8. says

    @Rafael The fact that they excluded Same Sex Marriage from their Contract For America<<

    That was a strategic move to keep out social issues like marriage equality and abortion. Doesn’t mean that many in their ranks aren’t against these issues. However, their purpose is to be able to bring younger conservatives/libertarians who would object to these issues as part of the platform. Consequently, they side-stepped the religious right who are doing their best to get in bed with these folks.

    Just keep in mind, there are crazies, loons, homophobes and racists on BOTH sides of the isle; not to mention those with a vested interest in keeping the status quo.

  9. TANK says

    This is the real face of the teabagger movement. Olberman was right. No gays, blacks, asians, hispanics, and jews. And certainly not gays (for emphasis)… This is older white racists who can’t get away with calling their president the ‘n’ word, so instead use reichian symbology, etc, to discredit him. Of course, they had to counter with their propaganda (it’s a corporate/republican machine sponsored movement, largely) after olberman had made his statement proclaiming them racist shitbags with their TOKEN representatives in a cheesy youtube video. And this the very next day. Yes, you are going to get a few gay people, black people, etc in movements like these. There are, in fact, jewish neonazis, and even gay neonazis…hard to believe, but mental illness comes in all shapes and sizes. Look at clarence thomas and alan keyes for examples of tokenism with the republican party. But largely, these people are homophobic, sexist, deeply racist hate mongers who are rallying behind that “call to arms”…each time a teabagger or a bachmannite makes a comparison between stalin and obama, or hitler and obama, they’re really saying “there’s a dirty ‘n’ in the whitehouse! It’s the white house after all…white…white…people like me!” They’re degenerates scumbags and the intersection of oppression comes to head in all of their public appearances.

    If they even bother to counter this, they’ll say something pathetic like, “there’s always a few bad apples in a bunch…” Don’t believe it, kids…they’re all bad apples, and really fuckin’ stupid.

  10. WizardBoyW says

    @Dawnell_do
    If you’re going to use big words, learn them. The word is COMEUPPANCE.

    @Fred
    Yeah, real classy group — same ones that surrounded a man with Parkinson’s and threw dollar bills at him.

    Health Care reform protesters (include Fred, apparently) are just afraid of poor people (read black, Latinos, poor whites) getting more welfare. They don’t care about the public good and never will. They all can go burn, for all I care.

    People will love this Health Care reform when they really find out what’s in it.

    As Rafael said, read the bill!

  11. Zach says

    “Just keep in mind, there are crazies, loons, homophobes and racists on BOTH sides of the isle; not to mention those with a vested interest in keeping the status quo.”

    There’s a lot more of them on one side of the aisle. Unfortunately, it’s not the spineless side.

  12. Tone says

    The tea baggers are tying their own noose. Let them keep this up they’ll poison their own cause with the wider caucus and with Americans at large. Their ugly side only makes us stronger.

  13. says

    @zach Touche!

    Hopefully, if they can fracture the Repubs in the fall, our casualties won’t be that bad. It sure would be nice if they tea-bagged Bonehead Boehner. With as much exposure he gets to UVA-radiation, you’d think he’d have cancer by now. Then again, what does he care, he’s got a Cadillac insurance plan courtesy of the American taxpayer.

  14. Zach says

    “Hopefully, if they can fracture the Repubs in the fall, our casualties won’t be that bad. It sure would be nice if they tea-bagged Bonehead Boehner”

    We’ll have a better sense of casualties after the vote. If they can get health reform through, then they can at least run on accomplishing something. The lesson the Dems perpetually refuse to learn is that Americans respect winners. Every time they hesitate in fear, they lose votes. If they actually tried ramming things through, they wouldn’t be worrying about losing control.

  15. Rafael says

    ” If they can get health reform through, then they can at least run on accomplishing something.”

    Health Reform won’t go into effect until Dec 26 of this year, even then its effects will be mitigated by all the triggers it is supposed to gradually (timely) meet. For the November elections, Democrats have to either define Republicans by their legislative ineffectiveness or engage in a massive educational campaign. The former seems to be a more feasible and direct strategy. Lets define them as “the party of No” and see how they run against that.

  16. Jane Roe says

    Teabaggers are subhuman savages. Scared little, ugly people who are shaking their arthritic fists in impotent rage. Let these animals have their tantrums.

  17. patrick nyc says

    It’s only a matter of time until one of these mentally unstable idiots resorts to violence and the blood will be on the hands of Fox, Beck and all the other racist pigs who feed on this hate.

  18. Jason says

    If I were Frank and that guy called me a Faggot I would have kicked the shit out of him. Then told him I hope you have health insurance asswipe…..

  19. Zach says

    “Health Reform won’t go into effect until Dec 26 of this year, even then its effects will be mitigated by all the triggers it is supposed to gradually (timely) meet. ”

    I’m not talking about waiting for any effect, I’m talking about the accomplishment of passing legislation. Americans aren’t ever going to rewards the Dems – even if their lives do get better – for what the legislation does. They will reward or favour a party that looks like it accomplishes something. It’s something the Republicans learned a long time ago – the appearance of something favourable is far more useful than doing something favourable.

  20. Jman says

    Teabaggers, like most of the right wing, are hypocrites. Every single teabagger I’ve personally spoken with claim they are loving and caring “christians” no matter the difference between themselves and others… then they spew the most monstrous things imaginable about everyone and everything. Hateful, hateful hypocrites.

  21. JJ Tw says

    Does anyone have a picture of a teabagger who is not fat, ulgy and inbred looking? I am looking at these pictures of the rallies and, woof! I hope HCR covers cosmetic procedures.

  22. John in Boston says

    So it’s ok when obnoxious brat ‘Progressives’ especially ‘Youths’ protest or demonstrate; but middle-aged, middle class, middle Americans (ESPECIALLY if they’re white) should just pay the taxes and STFU?

    HOW MANY fags on this board called others, gay or otherwise, a fag/faggot, especially when angry? HOW MANY have and do call others ‘Mean-Spirited’ names? I use the ‘F’ word all the time when angry and trash talk when arguing/fighting.

    And too fucking bad about politicians in DC (who live in a privileged bubble, especially senators and senior reps) having to face an angry public. After the Wall St bailout it’s unbelievable that a second revolution hasn’t occurred in this country.

  23. JJ Tw says

    Nice try, John. But where were these idiot teabaggers when the unfunded medicare drug plan was passed, Bush was racking up huge deficits in an unncessary war and gave a trillion dollar tax cut to the wealth? Nowhere except cheering him on. And now they care about deficits? Give me a break.

    And none of these slobs even make enough to pay the marginal tax rate, so their taxes are not going up.

  24. John in Boston says

    I’m not defending the whole kit and kaboodle JJ……I NEVER SAID the ‘Teabaggers’ where 100% correct and I never even said I agree with them. I said they have a right to protest…just as much as any often obnoxious, mean-spirited so-called ‘Progressive’.

    And I’ve met Barney. He was my rep for years. Truth be told the dude has the personality of a door knob and he’s an asshole.

    And I’m not fat or ugly (subjective)…..and I’m bi/gay. I’ve NEVER had a personal problem with it, ALWAYS accepted myself, was and is totally accepted by the lower middle class family I grew up in and by my now college educated brothers and sisters. The worse hate and ‘Mean-Spiritness’ I ever witnessed growing up in the belly of the beast (NYC and Boston) was from and by ‘Progressives’. God help you if you fall intoone of their stereotypes or are the opposite or don’t fit into their PC agenda (pretty much all white males BTW). And I’m FAR from being a ‘Neo-Con’, but believe in giving credit where credit is due. Goofy, obnoxious fringe radicals of any persuasion are their own worse enemy.

  25. JJ Tw says

    John, I got it hand it to you. You got the early 1990s, anti-PC, angry white male grievance thing down pat; that is a hallmark of modern conservatism.

    White males are the victims of affirmative action, feminists, minorities, liberals, etc. If a white male fails, its because of these, not because they are themselves losers or victims of their own decisions.

    The party of personal responsibility, indeed. Heh.

  26. oliver says

    JohninBoston,

    It’s pretty clear by your “pretty much all white males” comment that you have some racialist thoughts motivating you.

    Given that most American progressives are white and male, it’s pretty hard to believe that they are all self-hating.

    Andy Towle is a progressive. He doesn’t strike me as someone who hates white men. I don’t think Ted Kennedy hated white men. Etc., etc.

    Also, given that progressives are the ones who largely vote for gay rights versus conservatives, I’ll be happy to toss my lot in with them.

    As for your comment about progressives being “mean-spirited,” get real. Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Michelle Malkin, Sean Hannity, etc. have long documented histories of saying the most vicious things imaginable.

  27. Sean Byrd says

    I attended two town hall meetings here in the suburbs of Chicago in June/July of last year. Outside of both the venues I stood with around 1000 pro-health reform supporters. There were no counter-protestors for about 30 minutes. Suddenly three huge tour buses show up with “keep Your Hands Off My Healthcare” with “blood-splattered” handprints across the sides of each bus. The counter protestors came bounding off the buses with serious hate in their eyes and came running toward us yelling. Honestly, I was scared out of my mind. I have been to pro-choice and pro gay rights rallies where I encountered counter-protestors but I have never seen people this angry.

    I saw not one person of color in the crowd. Many signs had racist caricatures of the Pres. with stereotypical oversize lips eating a piece of watermelon with “My Healthcare” etched into the rhine. One sign had caricatures of not only the Pres but Michelle and THEIR KIDS again with big lips and picinanny hair. That sign said something like “Universal Healthcare will make your family look like this.” We were called lots of names like “pinko-commie fa**ots” and “Muslim Lovers.” Weird and surreal.

    I knew then that something horrific was about to happen to the national discourse in this country. I am not shocked at all by the events that have played out in the past few days. These people are no longer even hiding their hate….”

  28. Jason says

    I wonder if anyone saw that protest in Ohio where a man with Parkinson disease was heckled and harassed for counter protesting for health reform. People shouted to get a job and no hand outs, while another guy threw a dollar bill at him and said here take it!

    Oh and @ John. I’m White, 21, and gay as well as a veteran. I don’t need some racist homophobic fucktard’s blessing to have a protest let alone express me views.

    Every single march, rally I have ever been to has been peaceful and mature. These people bring out the worst in this country period.

    I find it a disgrace that these people are so blinded by the dogma and the spin of this issue, its sickening.

    Not to mention that tea baggers have members who are Neo Nazi’s or even members of the KKK or secessionists.

    Yeah they have a right to protest but like the Westboro crazies, these people bring nothing but animosity and anger. They give NO solutions, only venting the same old tired ranting and foaming at the mouth we’ve seen since last August.

    Point being people is that we are at a crucial turning point in this country. We are seeing the deep seeded prejudice bubble to the surface of these good “Christian” people….

    I myself am a Christian but I don’t go around thumping my beliefs on others and degrade them because I think I can use God as some sort of excuse to be a total moron.

    Point being John is you bring nothing new to the discussion, you blame others without giving proper evidence, and to me it sounds like your either a troll, or a really pissed off guy that does have some personal issues….

    Oh and another thing I don’t call other gay people Faggots. That’s for self loathing gays who have such a low self esteem that they must degrade others only to suit their sad pathetic self character….

    So DON”T generalize me with people who use that word… I find it highly offensive and insulting….

  29. DANIEL says

    I was born in Toronto and am now living in Vancouver. A couple years ago, just before my 27th birthday, I suffered a massive stroke from a rare type of brain aneurism. I had emergency brain surgery to stop the bleed, was in critical care for almost a month, and have been in rehab since, and working with a large medical team of various physicians, therapists, and counsellors. Since my brain injury, I have paid a total of $100 for my two ambulance rides between two hospitals. The cost of a craniotomy alone is over half a million dollars and the total for my care since would be well over one million dollars. That debt would have bankrupted me, destroyed my life and my family and I also would not have been able to afford the rehab that I receive that has allowed me to recover so well. I have full government health care coverage that is paid for by our taxes and also employer-based insurance for extended benefits (most of these costs are absorbed by my employer and I only pay a small percentage on each pay). Had I happened to be born a bit further south and in the USA, even with private insurance, I would not have been covered because the aneurism I had (AVM) is considered a pre-existing condition and I should have just somehow “known” that at 26 years old I’d have a bleed in my brain. This infuriates me and I am so sad for our neighbours in the United States who are always one illness or injury away from bankruptcy, devastation, or even death. I am so thankful to be Canadian. The American media is a vacuum and people are so extremely misinformed and so severely and willfully divided. Please seek out the truth about our health care system by researching on your own – from sources outside of the USA. We take care of each other and our government does not “control” us.

    My story is not uncommon at all and Canadians across the political, socioeconomic, and cultural spectrum do not even question that we are collectively responsible to care for one another and that access to health care is a human right and not a privilege. When someone is ill or injured and in need of medical attention they are never turned away, asked for payment, and you do not leave a hospital with a bill.
    I hope that your country is able to someday find your own way to care for one another – ALL of your people.

    (I can also be married to my husband, just as my brothers are to their wives – but that’s another post.)

  30. Dave in Boston says

    @ Fred, “Name” and John in Boston,

    I’m personally insulted by the three (or is it actually two) of you. This thread is about two black congressmen who were called the n-word and one spat on, and our most prominent gay congressman who was called a faggot – to the cheers of dozens of tea party retards, by the way.

    You little know-nothing twerps respond by defending the tea party creeps that “protest” in this way, bring up all sorts of crap about the rights of white people, how creepy Barney Frank is for looking at cute young guys (what the fuck do you think the Boat Slip exists for?), Barney’s other failings (“personality of a door knob and an asshole”) in a long, effective and progressive career, and the fact that gay guys actually use the word faggot in conversation with PEOPLE THEY KNOW. That’s right John, not too many gay guys shout “faggot” at gay politicians.

    Fred, have a great time celebrating this fall if the party of “NO” regains a majority and returns us to the Bush error – sorry – era.

    Name, (whoever you are), have a great time enjoying your intellectual ability which is one tenth that of Barney Frank’s. I also don’t believe you actually live in Boston – there is no “annual lesbian march”, besides Gay Pride. I think you are right – Barney “doesn’t represent you at all.”

    And John in Boston, enjoy calling your friends fag, being aggravated when “brat ‘Progressives’ especially ‘Youths'” protest, and when its “too fucking bad” that members of congress are subjected to racist, homophobic insults.

    Way to go guys.
    NOT!

  31. says

    I don’t understand this post.

    A person being called a “Teabagger”, which is a homophobic slur, called someone else a different homophobic slur; and people who use homophobic slurs are mad.

    My first thought would be that this guy is a Moby, but there’s so much irony going on here I think I need to go lie down.

  32. NancyBoyDrew says

    These idiots will be the first to butt in line to sign up for benefits if the bill passes. Glenn Beck must be laughing his ass off while having cocktails and passing prescriptions meds around with Rush at the Republican get togethers.

  33. says

    Great post, Daniel. I envy the way that Canadians pitch in and help one another… Americans possess that same spirit, but unfortunately we rarely see it except in extreme circumstances… war, disasters, 9/11, etc. When it comes to small individual sacrifices to help facilitate a great common good, fully half of Americans are more than willing to spew the most despicable bile at their fellow citizens just to save a couple of bucks. There are lots of things to love about America… but that’s most certainly not one of them.

    I wish you well in your recovery.

  34. Christ says

    I am outside looking in as a Canadian. Could someone please explain what’s going on? Why wouldn’t you want everyone to have Health Care benefits?

  35. JJ Tw says

    Christ, it’s kind of complicated, so bear with me. There are many in the U.S. who have pretty good health coverage provided by their employer. There poorer people who are covered by a government program called Medicaid, and of course seniors get medical coverage through the government program, Medicare.

    This, however, still leaves millions of people who are uninsured are underinsured (e.g, self-employed people, people too “rich” for medicaid, too young for medicare, people with pre-existing conditions, etc.)

    The people protesting have an I-got-mine-so-fuck-you attitude. They think, through misinformation from talk radio, fox news, the Chamber of commerce, health insurance companies, that the reforms will somehow affect their coverage. It won’t, if you have a plan that you like, you keep it.

    There is also race/class element to these protests. There are certain people who believe when poorer or needy people are getting anything (help, subsidy, etc.) from the government, it’s regarded as welfare or wealth redistribution, the dreaded socialism. So there are people opposed in that regard.

    And of course, private for-profit insurance companies are fighting reforms like the banning the denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions and banning the practice of recission. The teabaggers are useful idiots for them. The ‘baggers are protesting in favor of the insurance companies to continue these odious practices on them.

    In light of this opposition, both corporate, institutional, and from these misinformed teabaggers, it’s amazing we’ve come this far. If Pelosi and Obama can drag this over the finish line this afternoon, it is truly momentous.

  36. JJ Tw says

    Let me also say that the reforms and the bills aren’t perfect. There are lots of watered down elements to get conservative Democrats and ones bought off by the health insurance lobby on board. But it’s a start.

  37. tpiersoniii@gmail.com says

    What this teabag “movement” fails to realize is that health care in the United States under our current system is UNSUSTAINABLE. Health care costs continue to climb way past cost of living increases. American spend a higher percentage of their GDP on health care than any country in the world. The current bill while woefully inadequate attempts to address these issues. A true government takeover of health care (which this is clearly not) is really the only choice to control costs. Japan’s government run health care system dictates what doctors can charge for equipment and services and their system is sustainable and they provide better health care than we do and their tax burden is no greater. If something is not done to reform our system now then our economic preeminence will be a thing of the past in short time.

  38. peterparker says

    @DANIEL: Thank you so much for posting! I want to cut and paste your words and send them to every one of my conservative friends who oppose so called “socialized medicine”. I’m happy to know that you survived your brain injury and that you are once again thriving. Best wishes for your continued health!

  39. John says

    @ Daniel, Christ

    They don’t want the GST, individual mandate, and income tax hike of 2.5% on the wealthy. That’s what all the protests and racial slurs being hurled at Obama are about. Middle-class Americans do not seem to understand that raising income taxes on those who make more than $200,000 a year will not affect them. They also seem to believe that any limitation on consumption – no matter how minor – will mean the end of civilization as we know it.

    And thanks to misleading television advertising, they also believe the absurd propaganda that this is some sort of fiendish plot by Pharaoh to force the noble, independent, virile, hardworking, and self-reliant white man to pay for those masses of destitute minorities.

    Read into that whatever psychological insecurities you may…

  40. Ben Layvey says

    This is one point I agree on with Bill O’Reilly–AT LEAST THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN. I’m yet to witness a counter-movement to that of the Tea Bag Movement!!! One that takes ACTION not one that just sends letters to Reps and pray their cause is championed. Exposing the Tea Baggers’ deficiency of information via political comedy does nothing but strengthen their base not to mention their cause. In the end, the loudest roar is the one noticed. I say three rounds of Hurrah! for the Tea Baggers!

  41. TANK says

    Standing up for what you believe in isn’t a virtue in and of itself. some people stand up for pedophilia…like NAMBLA…I’d use a more violent example, but that doesn’t get the same reaction…because violent murder is somehow more acceptable than pedophilia in the states.

    If that’s the best one can offer to defend the teabaggers (that they’re “taking a stand for what they believe in”), no matter if what they believe is false (and it is), then you’ve admitted defeat.

  42. TANK says

    Psychopaths and murderous mobs of illiterate, unwashed pigs throughout history have stood up for what they believed in…the world would be a much better place if fewer people stood up for what they believed in.

  43. JJ Tw says

    It’s the complaints of tax hikes that get to me. It’s clear from even a cursory look at the average teabagger that only a miniscule percentage of them even makes the 250k (adjusted gross!) to even qualify for the small tax hike. The vast majority of them are middle class and have seen their taxes go down. They are arguing that their corporate masters’ rates don’t go up. These people are serfs.

  44. Keith says

    Oddly, I was against this version of the health care reform because I didn’t think it went far enough and was a handout to insurance and health care industries, but after this display and lack of civil disagreement, I think I’m for it now. I think the teabaggers just lost the war.

  45. TANK says

    They’re serfs…but really, when most americans decry tax hikes for the wealthiest fifteen to five per cent and they clearly don’t belong to that group, they’re buying into a meme, which is the faith that they will one day be in that tax bracket. That if they work hard enough at their dead end jobs…they’ll be there somehow through jesus magic. That they’ll beat the odds and be wealthy, and when they get there, they don’t want to be punished…meanwhile in reality, they’ve got a better chance of being a in plane that gets hit by an meteorite made out of a new alloy.

  46. Chris says

    For all of you who don’t remember “John In Boston” he was the one who used bring stats about negativity of African Americans. So most of us who are on Towleroad daily knows her idiotic vitriol.

    However, these tea party folks are really out to lunch without a sandwich.

  47. hephaestion says

    The teabaggers are all racists, and their protests have always been more about racism than their concern about health care. They use health care as an apportunity to protest and make their racial slurs.

  48. John in Boston says

    Unlike statistically the vast majority of ‘Whites’, especially middle-class, in America, I grew up in a truly diverse environment where I (as an evil white male) was a minority. I attended schools where I was a minority (as the male gender, racially Caucasian, and gay) unlike I’m willing to bet the vast majority of white posters on this board. I’ve NEVER had serious problems or issues with people of other races, ethnicities, gender, or sexual orientation. I have a BIG problem with LOUD-MOUTH (especially white) so-called ‘Progressives’ for MOST of whom it’s second nature to demonize, stereotype and scape-goat other whites lower on the socio-economic ladder (usually so they can gain some pathetic street cred with minorities…show they’re ‘Down’ with the brothas and sistahs).

    My education has propelled me into a comfortable middle class lifestyle (and ‘Status’) which I didn’t enjoy growing up; but I haven’t forgotten the phony, obnoxious ‘Progressives’ from my youth in Boston/Cambridge,NY.Especially ironic coming from ‘Progressive’ gays considering the wide-sped popularity of ‘Working-Class’ or ‘Rough-Trade’ fetish among gay men.

    And while I didn’t bring the subject up; yes, so-called ‘Affirmative Action’ IS legalized discrimination……..and discrimination is DESCRIMINATION…regardless. Funny how ‘Affirmative’ action in reality overwhelmingly applies exclusively to only certain socio-economic groups. Folks like our upper middle-class ‘Elite’ and their privileged children don’t have to deal with so-called ‘Affirmative’ action in their schools or work-place….that just applies to the ‘Little’ people.

    I favor universal healthcare; as long as ILLEGALS are cut off from it and even ‘Poor’ people are made to pay something so they better appreciate the value of what they’re getting, otherwise the system will be badly abused and going to a doctor or hospital will be like going down to the local welfare office. That would not be an improvement over what we have now. Far from it.

    And yeah…who the F is shocked by the word(s) fag/faggot, queer, etc.,? Who doesn’t swear, use ‘Bad’ words, especially when arguing/fighting (or engaged in sexual activity)? Please…..give me a fucking break you ‘Progressive’ hypocrites. If Frank had any balls he would have brawled with whoever called him ‘Bad’ names.

    The black congressmen should not have been racially insulted (if this really occurred; in this day and age EVERYONE has cellphone cameras, why haven’t any recordings, vids surfaced?) But name-calling is TAME stuff compared to the very real violence that occurs EVERY day in our streets.If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard name-calling and ‘Bad’ language used, or directed at myself, I’d be as rich as Carlos Slim.

  49. Zach says

    “If Frank had any balls he would have brawled with whoever called him ‘Bad’ names.”

    So you don’t think saying ‘faggot’ is a big deal, but you think Frank’s proper reaction would have been to beat up someone for saying it? And then you go on to say that violence is a far bigger problem then words?

    You are a mess of contradictions, even when you’re not discussing policy.

  50. Zach says

    “I have a BIG problem with LOUD-MOUTH (especially white) so-called ‘Progressives’ for MOST of whom it’s second nature to demonize, stereotype and scape-goat other whites lower on the socio-economic ladder (usually so they can gain some pathetic street cred with minorities…show they’re ‘Down’ with the brothas and sistahs).”

    … says the guy who doesn’t want welfare bums getting free healthcare. But please continue on about how much you respect those lower on the socioeconomic scale.

  51. Zach says

    “I’ve NEVER had serious problems or issues with people of other races, ethnicities, gender, or sexual orientation.”

    And I never tire of someone pointing out how many black/gay/female friends they have. Tell me, do you always divide and point to everyone about how diverse your friends are? Are you that insecure?

  52. JJ Tw says

    John, just quit while you’re not ahead. You got a racial chip on your shoulder the size of Yankee stadium. Your grievance list must be a mile long.

  53. John says

    A senior member of Congress should engage in a fist fight with protesters while his boss – who is second in line to the presidency – watches from the podium.

    Are you for real?

    This isn’t Cletus’ Saloon and Casino.

    It is the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives. And he’s the Chairman of the Financial Services Committee. We might be a little more informal here in the United States than the Commonwealth countries. But this is atrocious behavior by members of the gallery. Not that I am surprised given the lack of decorum shown by the tea baggers’ Republican masters at the State of the Union. Not once – but twice – interrupting the President during the state opening of a new session of the federal legislature as if it were “Evening at the Apollo.”

  54. JJ Tw says

    200k people marched on DC today for a pro-immigration reform rally. That’s more than the teabaggers ever got in any single location. Can someone explain who so much media attention is given to these conservative loons?

  55. lgwolf says

    The Tea Party forgot their white hoods and burning crosses. A bunch of RACIST, REDNECK HOMOPHOBES MASKING AS ‘Concerned Americans.’
    Go back to your redneck trailers Teabaggers.

  56. Throbert McGee says

    @ Mike | Mar 20, 2010 6:34:54 PM

    “Too bad none of the comments were recorded – would have loved to see them blasted over the airwaves so America could see the hatred that Fox News and their ilk cultivate.”

    Try this, Mike: “HOW UTTERLY ASTONISHING that none of the comments were recorded, in this age where every third person has a freakin’ camera phone.”

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