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  1. TANK says

    I’m shocked that there are more whores! SHOCKED, I tellsya. I feel really badly for…the luggage. Burn in hell, rekers!

  2. DavyG says

    A coalition of gay rights are getting behind a prostitute? Hmm, I’m sympathetic to Lucien, of course, but he is a prostitute … there’s no need for organisations that are supposed to be campaigning for marriage rights to be promoting prostitution.

  3. TANK says

    “A coalition of gay rights are getting behind a prostitute?”

    LOL! Ignoring that poor choice of words, why not?

    davyg=tony perkins.

  4. says

    I know I’m not supposed to get a hard-on every time I watch Rachel Maddow (cause, you know, I’m gay and all) but her intelligence makes me blow a load every time. God I am IN LOVE with this woman!!! I want to get together and make MILLIONS OF HYPER-INTELLIGENT gay babies with her. Rachel, I am a gay man and I love you. I’m not ashamed to admit it.

    Oh, and Rekers’ continual discrediting and public humiliation is just like ice-cream on a hot summer day. DELICIOUS!!!

  5. Nick says

    The fact that he’s a prostitute doesn’t trump the fact that’s he gay-or a human being. Our community, if it’s a real community at all, should be supportive of all of it’s members. Or have we not learned by now how much it sucks to be discriminated against?

  6. anon says

    Ouch! Well, she put a nice dollop of icing on that one! Declaring war on hypocrisy is great, but a full time job. Will she go after Lindsey Graham too now? I hope so.

  7. ravewulf says

    It’s good that Lucien is being taken care of :)

    Also, love rentboy.com’s statement >;]

  8. DavyG says

    I just don’t think the gay movement needs to get behind prostitution. Prostitution is immoral, it’s harmful, it’s illegal, etc. Lucien needs moral support, fair enough. He’s young, naive, whatever. But that doesn’t mean that his prostituting of himself is any more acceptable. Seriously, grow up.

  9. Chitown Kev says

    @DavyG

    How is the gay movement “getting behind prostitution?”

    Personally, I don’t think that prostitution is “illegal, immoral, or harmful” (well, it is illegal everywhere but Nevada but I do think that it should be legal everywhere) personally but I do make a slight distinction between Mike Jones and Lucien here because of the age factor.

    This is very, very far from promoting prostitution and has everything to do with exposing hypocrisy.

  10. TANK says

    “Prostitution is immoral, it’s harmful, it’s illegal, etc.”

    Why is prostitution immoral and harmful? Don’t say because it’s illegal…hope you’re more intelligent than that.

  11. Rascal says

    I’ve seen so much snark and scorn thrown at this young man just because he has engaged in sex work that you’d think I’d be immune to it by now, but I confess I am still shocked at how easily members of a stigmatized, stereotyped, marginalized community can deploy the very same dismissive shortcuts on others.

    Being a prostitute equates to being a prostitute; it does not equate to dishonesty, lack of intelligence, thievery, underhandedness, or any other assumptions about his character made simply because of his vocation. Most important, it does not equate to his being undeserving of help and compassion.

    It’s no good demanding that others relinquish their narrow-mindedness if you refuse to do so.

  12. Daniel says

    The Christians will probably throw George Rekers under the bus.

    Family Research Council has already started. I hope the next time Tony Perkins shows up on a cable news show, he is grilled on this scandal FIRST THING.

    Of course we should support “Lucien.” To do so would be the right thing to do. He’s not the bad one in this scandal.

    George is one SICK SICK person. Do people realize how much he HATES HIMSELF for being attracted to boys…uh men?

    His own adopted son is the SAME AGE as the rentboy he JUST TOOK ON VACATION and SHARED A ROOM WITH…and enjoyed nude body-rubs with. I would like to know…did they also share the same bed while on “vacation?” George Rekers was not working on this trip – no meetings or sermons, etc. I read on the Miami New Times page that he is married. Why not take his OWN WIFE on this trip? Instead he went on RentBoy.com!?

    I also read he enjoys being a foster parent to kids. VERY DISTURBING!

    Plus the fact that he got to “play” with $120,000 of Florida Taxpayer money. SICK.

    I’m tired of the jokes and giggles everytime a scandal like this comes around.
    It’s time to put these SELF-HATING BIGOTS in their rightful place.

  13. JeffNYC says

    If Rekers testified that homosexuals should not be allowed to adopt, and he has sex with men, then his adopted child should be taken away from him.

    At the very least, an investigation should be conducted to determine if he sexually abused the child he adopted.

  14. alguien says

    frankly, i find the word “prostitution” to be pretty pejorative and prefer to use the term “sex worker” to describe those who are offering time & sexual favors for money. i don’t know why people like DavyG are screaming about its immorality or why he thinks that because various legal assistance organizations within the gay community offering their support to lucien are “promoting” the world’s oldest profession.

    davyg you really do sound like a troll implant from NARTH or another right wing fundie organization.

  15. says

    “If Rekers testified that homosexuals should not be allowed to adopt, and he has sex with men, then his adopted child should be taken away from him.

    At the very least, an investigation should be conducted to determine if he sexually abused the child he adopted.”

    SING OUT LOUISE!!!!!!!!!

  16. Zlick says

    Wow, the constant looking-down-one’s gay nose at sex workers is really almost as pathetic as Rekers. In how many places, and for how many eons has homosexuality been deemed immoral, harmful and illegal?

    Sheesh, it’s a sad fact of life, constantly demonstrated, that oppressed people make the best oppressors. Maybe they just know how.

    Get off your freaking high horses

  17. DavyG says

    Just because horrible Christians talk about “morality” when they condemn us doesn’t mean that morality doesn’t exist or that I shouldn’t use such language. I have not made any assumptions about Lucien’s character based on the unfortunate profession he chose. I’m saying that prostitution is immoral. I’m saying we shouldn’t glorify it, and we definitely shouldn’t act like it’s ok just because we’re gay. Being gay doesn’t mean taking a permissive stance on all things sexual in nature.

  18. Rascal says

    @DavyG

    Whether or not the young man’s profession is immoral is quite beside the point. The issue is whether or not the gay community should defend him in this particular situation, regardless of his profession or anyone’s opinion of it. I submit it would be immoral for us to decline our compassion and support, and allow hypocrisy and bigotry to prevail.

  19. alguien says

    @davyg

    i was going to dismiss you as “shit for brains” but that’s just too easy.

    davy, i think you have to wrap your brain around the fact that there are many, many of us who don’t share your views on sex work and DON’T believe that prostituion is morally wrong.

    moreover, when you make such claims as “glorifying” it you’d better back up just how it’s being glorified. several organizations have come to lucien’s defense. how does that compute to “glorifying” prostitution to you?

  20. TANK says

    “Just because horrible Christians talk about “morality” when they condemn us doesn’t mean that morality doesn’t exist or that I shouldn’t use such language.”

    Sure. That follows. However, how does this argue for the immorality of prostitution? I don’t think it does. Thomas Aquinas argued for the ethical permissability of prostitution. Maybe we’ll get some reasoning out of you yet.

    “I have not made any assumptions about Lucien’s character based on the unfortunate profession he chose.”

    Why is it an unfortunate profession? Why is prostitution wrong and harmful? Argument! At least attempt to prove your case.

    “I’m saying that prostitution is immoral.”

    And apparently that’s all you’re saying. Unless you can come up with an argument, it’s akin to someone saying anything…from the earth is the center of the solar system to turquoise emotions enjoy sheep when they play baseball.

    “I’m saying we shouldn’t glorify it, and we definitely shouldn’t act like it’s ok just because we’re gay.”

    And what’s your argument? You realize that this bears striking parallels to any old opinion….e.g., eggs are wrong because I say so! The end…idiot.

    “Being gay doesn’t mean taking a permissive stance on all things sexual in nature.”

    It doesn’t, but it all doesn’t mean that one ought condemn prostitution. So why should we do that?

  21. Zlick says

    Sorry, DavyG, but morality DOES NOT EXIST. It is completely subjective, and yours is not only different from mine, it is different from everyone else’s on the planet. It is distinctly yours. So please learn to say things like “I don’t personally approve of it,” rather than “it’s immoral.” Because if you don’t, good luck with being gay. Guess how many people think THAT’S “immoral.”

  22. Michael says

    Anyone else find the moral extremism professed by Davyg somewhat ridiculous?

    It’s a self-hating denial of the real world supported by a fantasy of moral elitism.

    Prostitution, and to an extend escorting, exists because of supply and demand. There is obviously a cronic demand for paid sexual service in American and only the stupid or blind try to convince themselves otherwise.

    Demanding people lead their lives according to some ideological moral code who’s essence is to ignore things that offend is just plain ass stupid.

    Instead of denouncing prositution, which is obvious in demand, why not work to make the people who live this way safer?

    Or does it make you feel better that a woman should be held in abject slavery for sexual service in a violent and disease-prone environment?

    I guess if you’re answer is “they shouldn’t do it anyway” then I have to say you should go change your name to Jesus and resurrect some folk because you’re either the savior or just plain stupid.

  23. TANK says

    no, zlick…that’s not much better than daveyg’s reasoning. But at least it’s an attempt at an argument. Something like this…morality differs from culture to culture, group to group, time period etc…(that’s an empirical claim)…sooo, morality d oesn’t exist. Wellll, our understanding of the origin of life has differed from time and place, person to person…so evolution is false…LOL! So it’s invalid.

    And I’d also disagree…there is such a thing as an objective (mind independent) morality.

  24. Chuck Mielke says

    I will, slightly, defend davyg. I’ll do so by asking others to recall the jokes they’ve undoubtedly made about the sexual exploits of a friend or coworker. Such jokes are based equally on a sense of moral superiority and, also, on a sense of envy. It is merely part of the human condition that those who do differently from ourselves are, sometimes, the butt of jokes. So, can we have a little compassion for the objects of jokes as well as a little sense of humor over the situation such people demonstrate?

    That being said, I wish all “victimless crimes,” like prostitution, were stricken from the books. But, as long as Rekers and his ilk find it lucrative to force their “morality” on everyone else, the battle will go on. Some battles must be won many times before the opposition sees it own futility. We should probably look forward to many more Rekers and other such exposed bigots.

  25. walter says

    there is one point nobody picked up on only 1500 florida taxpayers signed the petition
    about mccollum and his waste of taxpayer dollars tobut testimony. there has to be more than 1500 taxpayers upset over this. there has to be more than 1500 gays in florida. also as to lucien he hasn’t hurt anybody he is trying to survive in a very tough world. the only one who has hurt people is rekers and if there are other rent boys out there i hope they all come foward and nail this fucker to the wall.

  26. John in Boston says

    Lucien LOL!…..Why the F don’t these dudes have ‘boring’ names like John, James, Bill, Tom, ……. come to think of it how come the foo-foo hair salons, fashion designers, and whatnot almost always have she-she names?

    My names Lucien and I’ll be your hustler this evening…..

  27. John in Boston says

    How does this guy explain being in the constant company of *handsome* young men? ………..

    Dirty Old Man: Say hello to my *nephew* Lucien….

    Lucien, say hello………

    Lucien: Ohhh… si, si….este es mi tio Jorge

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