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After the jump, lame-duck Republican Gov. Linda Lingle's announcement vetoing Hawaii HB 444, in which she claims to be exercising her power because the issue should be decided upon by the voters of Hawaii. While she states her veto has nothing to do with her personal position against "same-gender marriage" (her term) or political considerations, she also takes the opportunity to slam the Democratic-led legislature for forcing her hand.

A farce.

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  1. The Hawaiian constitution prohibits discrimination based on sexual orientation!! What would you call her act?? She should be prosecuted!

    Posted by: JamesStone | Jul 7, 2010 12:23:04 AM


  2. fuck you lingle. you think the people have the right to decide if i'm treated as an equal citizen?

    Posted by: james | Jul 7, 2010 12:52:11 AM


  3. Let's have a vote on whether women should be able to serve in the government. The people should decide!

    Posted by: ugh | Jul 7, 2010 12:54:12 AM


  4. She's a total and complete closet case. Disgusting.

    Posted by: LingleIsALesbian | Jul 7, 2010 1:02:05 AM


  5. Yeah, I was going to say, can we get any more lesbo here? And the fact that she is TWICE divorced? OMG America, you are a Three Stooges skit and the joke is on US.

    Posted by: Fred | Jul 7, 2010 1:16:37 AM


  6. there's just something chilling about watching people singing hymns and praising God because other people are going to be denied rights.

    Posted by: Woody | Jul 7, 2010 1:22:11 AM


  7. I read a comment that the Legislature can override her veto... anyone know if that's a possibility?

    Posted by: stephen | Jul 7, 2010 1:32:25 AM


  8. @Stephen No, a legislative override is not in the cards in that state.

    Posted by: Mike B. | Jul 7, 2010 1:39:50 AM


  9. File Lingle along with Patricia Corrigan, the lesbian on California Supreme Court who voted to uphold Proposition 8. I'm so sick of closet cases using their positions of power to play out their own psychodramas with others' rights.

    Posted by: Get Real | Jul 7, 2010 1:41:35 AM


  10. The interesting thing about this debate is that most of the posts and comments refer to marriage. This was a "seperate but equal" civil unions bill. Nobody sees civil unions as a workable compromise any more. Those on both sides view civil unions as a stepping stone to marriage. We need to focus on full marriage equality, not civil unions. Elect a pro marriage equality governor and pass a marriage bill next year.

    Posted by: Ken | Jul 7, 2010 1:42:45 AM


  11. I might add the same goes for Mark Kirk, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Charlie Crist, Larry Craig, and the list goes on...

    Posted by: Get Real | Jul 7, 2010 1:45:06 AM


  12. Here's my obscure but worth noting point.....in an earlier post you gays (or as you all mentioned you don't mind being reffered to..you fags) stated you don't mind when straight mainstream society calls you gay slurs, the word sissy faggot is not the least bit upsetting when reffering to gays, negative connotations with the word gay (i.e "that's SO gay!") shouldn't trouble us as we have "bigger issues to worry about"....here's my honest to goodness question and I'm seeking a *logical* response.....
    Why do you gay people think that society does NOT need to respect you in order to reward you rights? Do you truly think societal homophobes who don't take you seriously will take you rights seriously?

    The moment black folks were met with equality was the very second the word n*gger became a taboo (and deservedly so)...and not a minute after. Think about that one for a second.

    Go educate people outside of courtrooms and in the real world, but let me assure you, until you make it unacceptable for your straight friends to use the word "faggot" after every noun, do NOT expect them to advocate your rights behind a voting booth.

    Posted by: Carlton | Jul 7, 2010 2:07:13 AM


  13. Well now I know where I should NOT go for my next beach vacation and spent all my hard earned gay money.

    Lingle, you can suck it!

    Posted by: gayalltheway | Jul 7, 2010 2:22:39 AM


  14. Carlton: AMEN! AMEN! could not have said it better myself, and I did automatically notice the correlation. It's actually stunning comparing these livid comments over these results to most posts about homophobia in language by hetrosexuals in which readers reply with a flippant "who cares? grow a thick skin and get over it!"
    well, as for these results. who cares? grow a thick skin and get over this and being called a fag and over all homophobic attitudes. doesn't it feel good letting things just roll right off your back? ....No? might want to examine why you enable one set of homophobia while condemning another form, and while you're at it, realizing how this vote is indeed related to Dennis Miller using the word faggot on Comedy Central to a young audience.

    Posted by: observer | Jul 7, 2010 2:25:23 AM


  15. What ever happened to the government protecting all of it's citizens, not just those approved of by the Mormons and Catholics? How cowardly to just pass this issue on to the heterosexual majority. As a Jew she should remember that Hitler was voted into power by the majority of the German people in the 1930s.

    Posted by: Tom in Long Beach | Jul 7, 2010 4:32:41 AM


  16. Exactly... let's have a vote whether people should be able to get divorced. Or whether women should be able to vote/work/be elected. Or whether Jews should be able to serve publicly.

    Oh wait, that's not fair you say?

    Posted by: Mike | Jul 7, 2010 5:31:11 AM


  17. what a crock of shit from a closeted lesbian governor.

    Posted by: DickHawaiiKai | Jul 7, 2010 5:57:15 AM


  18. Carlton:

    All we need is 51% of the electorate.

    The other 49% can be educated later.

    There are tons of people in the United States who still use highly derogatory and hurtful terms against minorities.

    That has little to do with the protections afforded those minorities.

    Those who are using slurs at the moment are of little concern if they are outside of the public domain. And if they are in the spotlight, they are quickly dispatched. Nearly every public figures who has said "fag" or "faggot" over the last five or ten years has issued an apology or been fired from his or her job.

    Obtaining LGBT rights is about pushing other liberal or Democratic groups into our camp, primarily in the African-American and Hispanic populations.

    We want the people on the fence, i.e. those who would not normally use such slurs (church groups, etc) but who have not yet been won over.

    A simple majority is what we need and it's usually a matter of swinging a small percentage our way.

    We need to use our resources and energy thoughtfully and with purpose. Getting incensed over every comment in a blog is a waste of that energy.

    51%.

    Posted by: Rob G. | Jul 7, 2010 7:04:35 AM


  19. Time is on our side. I would prefer not to wait, but I will. This is another bump on our way to full equality. Let the bigots cheer today. In history, they will be jeered.

    Posted by: candideinnc | Jul 7, 2010 7:23:54 AM


  20. Andy,

    Please use "sex same marriage", sex and gender are two very different things, sex is related to biology, gender is the cultural interpretation of the sexual difference...

    ;-)

    Posted by: Fernando | Jul 7, 2010 8:18:56 AM


  21. There should be a formal BOYCOTT HAWAII campaign organized stat...

    Posted by: Stewart | Jul 7, 2010 8:45:24 AM


  22. I think John Lennon said it best...."How do you sleep"

    Posted by: John Normile | Jul 7, 2010 8:46:58 AM


  23. I have it on pretty good authority that she's a closeted lesbian. What an affront!

    Posted by: bammer | Jul 7, 2010 8:50:32 AM


  24. To Carlton & Observer: What world do you live in? In mine the use of such words as "Fag" etc.. is deeply offensive.The usage of the phrase "You Gays", beggs me to wonder what your doing on a gay blog, anyway."Helping"? I'm sure some vapid queens out there are their own worst enemy, and I strongly agree that the Gay Community in general is long overdue for a total reassessment of our values. That does not change or impact the source of this latest defeat. I believe, for that, you would have to look to the Mormons.

    Posted by: booka | Jul 7, 2010 9:20:15 AM


  25. Carlton. Uhm? Where is it that you heard that using 10 gay slurs in a row is something that gay people like? I hadn't heard this. In fact, I have heard just the opposite.
    But you trying to just basically be a homophobe and use slurs doesn't have anything to do with the question of egual rights.
    I do believe that most gay people live in the "real" world, which is why they hear from boneheads like you all too often. When was the last time you were beaten severly just because you exist. You probably don't have to fear people treating you the way you clearly treat others.

    Posted by: Kris | Jul 7, 2010 11:54:58 AM


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