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  1. Joel says

    Wow. I think Clay had more to say than Eric Roberts when he was on the View. Nice going Clay! Sherri Shepherd needs to leave already. Her response to Clay’s retort was juvenile.

  2. daws says

    Elizabeth (and sometimes Sherry) makes my skin crawl and the reason why I stopped watching the show. It’s ridiculous that they’re having this survey. It’s insulting.

  3. veg says

    Clay did beautifully here.

    As for Sherri and Elisabeth: chair-rocket them off the set immediately.

    BTW: why do they talk over one another?

  4. qjersey says

    I am so tired of hearing that our big strong soldiers are scared of gay men looking at their dicks, being hit on, or being sexually assaulted…and all the fears are about gay men…like lesbians don’t exist.

  5. says

    I agree Veg. I wish they had chairs like on the Graham Norton Show to flip Sherri over.

    She’s actually succeeded in becoming more annoying than Elizabeth.

  6. sfikus says

    Pity there’s not this much waling, rending of vestments and gnashing of teeth over the harassment, abuse, rape, and institutionalized, systematic dehumanization that women endure at the hands of straight men in the military.

    When women can serve safely, I’ll worry about how bad the defenseless straight men have it…

  7. THE QUEEN says

    WELL MY DEARS, YOU HAVE JUST GOT TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT SOME STRAIGHT SOLDIERS ARE JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH BEING WITH GAY MEN LET ALONE SHOWERING WITH GAY MEN AND I DO FORSEE PROBLEMS WITH THIS.

    BEST TO KEEP THE THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE, AFTER ALL ISN’T THE WHOLE POINT OF BEING IN THE MILITARY IS SO YOU CAN DIE GLORIOUSLY AND HONORABLY FOR YOUR COUNTRY AND NOT WHOSE COCK YOU CAN SUCK TONITE?

    AS FOR MYSELF, I CERTAINLY COULD NOT KEEP MY EYES OFF ALL THAT MEAT AND WOULD ONLY BE TOO WILLING TO SERVICE — OH, EXCUSE ME — ‘SERVE’ MY FELLOW SOLDIERS IN ANY WAY I COULD, PREFERABLY ON ALL FOURS. DROP THE SOAP ANYONE?

  8. wtf says

    Oh ‘The Queen’ – we have not missed you. Just shut the fuck up already and go back under your pre-21st Century rock. You’re nothing but an ignorant troll. Fuck off dipshit.

  9. David T says

    Um, you’re afraid of showering with gays and still qualified to be in the military? Isn’t a bullet scarier?

  10. walter says

    the problem with this survey that there was no scientific way of getting an actual control of the sampling what happens if it goes to 400 rednecks from the backwoods.plus
    400,000 for 4 branches is only 100,000 each branch. plus the question are really bad and open to many sterotypical beliefs of gays.

  11. Kurt says

    I was in the military. Seeing as all of our showers were already single-person, shower-curtained affairs (with the exception of basic training), I fail to see the point of all of this gay panic.

    And in basic, soldiers were too scared of the drill sergeants screaming at them to worry about other guys’ cocks in the communal showers there.

    If soldiers can’t handle following orders, they have no business being in the military. And they shouldn’t be given a survey to see if they like the orders.

  12. Bart says

    First off, this was an idiotic survey. When has anyone in the military ever asked an enlisted man (or woman) anything? Do they ask them where they want to serve? Do they ask them what they think of the food? And they ask them this???? Either the military is getting dumber or this was just stupid. I’m picking the later.

    And second, there already ARE gays in the military. Lots of them. These men and women ARE showering together already. These men and women ARE dressing together already. The notion that openly gay men and women are going to…hell, I’m not sure what they think they’re going to do…once they are open as opposed to not asking and not telling, is so on-its-face stupid, it’s hard to justify even talking about it.

    When did this country get so dumb? I’m accused of being a liberal elitist. What I am is someone who is tired of stupid and tired of ass-backwards thinkers. Let’s move ahead and get the best people in the military rather than having some idiot who is more worried about whether or not someone is glancing at his penis than he is about doing his job.

  13. JT says

    Derek Washington : But it’s not like the white ladies on The View are any great brains either.

  14. david in iowa says

    Ah the shower….and the fear that some poor hick straight boy will be “approached” by a lusting homosexual….give me a F’ing break. just what makes that hick boy think he is all that in the first place. Unless his dick is the size of his ego, he ain’t got thing one to worry about…next question please

  15. JT says

    Actually, David, I think some “hick straight boys” ARE totally all that. But that doesn’t mean guys can’t control themselves in the shower. I think a lot of people don’t realize the types of homosexuals who join the military in the first place will be a different breed from your average ghetto “gay” type.

  16. JT says

    And the suggestion that straight guys only have to worry if they’re well-endowed is a little crass.

  17. johnny says

    JT’s use of the word “ghetto” is not referring to anything about race, the word ghetto is not racist per se, especially when combined with gay. It only means where there are a bunch of the same type of people living in a crowded space in a city. See: Folsom St, SF.

    I agree with JT, any gay that is joining the military is a totally different type of gay with very different values and roots than a typical bar-hopping, clothes-shopping, man-stopping gay. We have many types within the gay community, or did people forget that?

    The elephant in the room is the fact that even after DADT is repealed, VERY FEW soldiers will come out or will want to be identified as gay. It’s simply not how most gay soldiers are wired.

    And Sherri isn’t stupid, she definitely is ignorant, however.

  18. robbiepa2001 says

    STUPID B***!

    1. After basic training, you shower in stalls, not an open room.

    2. What if someone is not use to being around blacks. Do they get counseling??
    How would she feel??

    3. What about counseling for all those B***
    allowing their DL men, they need to keep their DAMN Legs CLOSED!

    She needs counseling – education on the shape of the earth, that the mnay abortions can cause health issues to her and any child she cares, hhmmm?

    That Christianity was not the being of time, it was after most of human history had already happened. search it out, she said that….

  19. Lessthan says

    I want to bring up Kurt’s point again. Where are these fabled group showers? There are the ones at boot, but you are so stressed out there that you don’t even get morning hard-ons! (I personally believe in the saltpeter myth.) I have been assigned to fancy Air Force bases and cruddy, falling-down-around-you Marine Corp bases, and FOBs in war zones. Nobody has group showers. Why are we arguing over something that doesn’t even exist?

  20. says

    The whole point of DADT, however flawed (in law and even worse in implementation), was that we supposedly went from LGB people could never serve and needed to be systemically rooted out to where they could supposedly serve in silence. The original legislation intended that the “serving in silence” was just as far as the military was concerned. On their own time, they were supposed to be allowed to go to gay bars, march in Pride parades, not worry about their gay.com profiles, etc.

    Now, of course the “don’t ask … don’t pursue” elements were never properly implemented. But the intent that every soldier should realize is that there already ARE gay soldiers there, and if any soldier can see your dick, some of them might be gay soldiers.

    If some straight soldiers are worried about sexual harassment or rape, perhaps they are projecting a bit much. Perhaps the military should step up their enforcement against harassment and rape against women, too.

  21. Dev says

    I think I am missing something crucial in this debate… Having a gay person see my dick in the showers should distress me, WHY EXACTLY?

    I’m not from the US

  22. Dev says

    Ugh. Comment got cut.

    I was saying… I’m not from the US so I’m not sure how modest the men there are.