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  1. Mike says

    I think the President has a point. I too am disappointed at the speed at which change for gay rights, health care, etc. are happening – however, the Republicans and their media arm (FOX NEWS) spew an unending stream of blatant lies and misinformation. If we’re out protesting the President and his administration, we should be doing the same to the wingnuts in spades!

  2. eb says

    just like the code pink people stopped the war, just like the town hall people stopped health care reform. to heckle the president disrespects the office and undermines the message.

  3. says

    Obama is absolutely right. Just wait until the GOP holds power. They will cut AIDS funding, health care benefits, etc. & wrap themselves in the noble endeavor of cutting spending.

    And that’s only the beginning. The Culture Warriors will take aim on us & they have no problem with a scorched-earth policy.

    Lobbying Obama was appropriate, crippling him is something we will soon regret.

  4. AK Alabama says

    As much as I hate to admit, Bush funded more global AIDS releif than any president before. With his initial 15 billion President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief of 2003 and then the tripled renewal in 2008 (~45 billion). Besides, why would they go to a crowd of Republicans to say “you’re not delivering on your promise.” They voted for Obama and the promises ‘he’ made. Obama has far from delivered, so he is exactly the one that needs to hear from his voters that feel used by and undervoiced in his administration.

  5. TANK says

    Just you wait! LOL! Crying about the inevitable is just as useless, then…because the GOP is going to win back at least one chamber this tuesday (which is historically accurate). And let’s not forget that the bush administration is responsible for lifting the hiv/aids immigration ban and UNPRECEDENTED gobal hiv/aids treatment and prevention programs…which Obama is now making budget cuts and continuing the ’08 funding. Credit where credit is due, please. Of course, republicans are no option to democrats, who have proven to be no alternative. Instead of voting by party, vote by record and policy.

    Fear mongering won’t save your asses, and further, it will just create a hostile environment that the democrats will use to scapegoat gays for the losses. And Obama isn’t all THAT concerned with losing at least one chamber to the repukes…after all, it will greatly improve his reelection chances when the heat’s off for his disappointing performance as a leader.

  6. Brian says

    I was at the rally, and I guess that I am more disappointed that Andy would lead with this sound-bite – which was a momentary glitch in other wise 30 plus minutes of inspiration by the President. People arrived in at the rally at 6:00 am to get to the head of the line – the Arena was filled to capacity and the audience’s response was deafening. Could the President do better in regards to all LGBT issues? Of course. But as he says himself, the other side will do NOTHING. In these last critical hours before the election, why not share the President’s real message, rather than give the sensational more airplay.

  7. TANK says

    And why is Obama wasting his time in CT? Very telling…that election’s all locked up for the democrats in that state, with richard blumenthal enjoying double digit leads over that teaparty moron mcmahon. Very telling, indeed…seems awful wasteful.

  8. J.P. says

    @tank…. I am pretty sure that Bush did not lift the travel ban. I thought it was Obama. I may be wrong though.

  9. Ricco says

    It would seem on the surface counterproductive to be heckling the president on the funding of Global AIDS and other issues relevant to the GLBT community, and neglect those who work much harder against us. But this is why Obama is getting so much of our unflattering attention.

    Plainly: he betrayed us, but not only us, but his entire base. It was moderates and the left that put him into office, then when he was elected, he totally forgot his base and has been governing just right of center ever since.

    Guantanomo is still open, and he has made it almost impossible to distinguish from his administration and the former administration by trying to play bi-partisan politics and electing the same people who were responsible for the financial meltdown, and by adopting the most profoundly offensive policies of the former administration.

    He gave us health care reform. but reform without any teeth, without a public option while making it mandatory for us to purchase insurance from the same corporations that have left millions of Americans without health care in the first place, and penalizing us if we don’t.

    Even now insurance companies are already finding loopholes, ways of navigating around this toothless bill. In the end it is always as it has been, corporations are barely regulated, and American citizens are over regulated.

    He has done nothing to repeal DADT or DOMA, in fact the DOJ has done everything in its power to oppose the repealing of DADT, using language that has been as offensive and divisive as the former administration. Obama claims that the DOJ is bound by law to defend these measures, but in California Schwarzenegger and Jerry Brown refused to appeal Justice Walker’s ruling.

    Experts also agree that even if it were true that the DOJ is bound by law to protect these laws, they need not be so diligent, that they could do so grudgingly. They could state to the 9th Circuit Court that they consider DADT to be unconstitutional and that it is with profound regret and great reluctance that they file their appeal at all.

    Did anyone seriously think this president would be a fierce advocate for the GLBT community, a man who stated that he believed marriage to be between a man and a woman?

    We have been told to be patient, that Obama had a lot on his plate with two wars and a financial meltdown. But we have already been patient long enough; and the fact of the matter is that our civil rights, any groups civil rights, would be more important than five wars and a full-blown depression. A country that does not value the freedom of all its citizens, is a country that is unworthy of the freedom they profess to value.

    Obama had the opportunity of going down in history as one of the greatest presidents ever. He could have been the next Lincoln,instead it is unlikely that he will even go down as one of the greatest African-American president, assuming we are around long enough to elect any more black presidents.

    So what are our options on November 2, and in 2012? That is what we must ask ourselves, and it is what Obama is asking. And that is the worst betrayal of all, how he has been playing the fear card, capitalizing on our fears of the right gaining a majority in both houses.

    But I’m not afraid. I survived eight years of Bush and I can survive whatever it will take to teach democrats that this gay man is no one’s bit*h, that I will not be played or be manipulated and held prisoner by my fears, giving them my vote and hoping that maybe, just maybe they will do something to make me a little more equal in this country.

    And obviously I am not the only gay person who feels this way, which is why Obama is getting so much heat. We are proud, we are tough. If the pathetic, toothless democrats in Washington D.C. can take it, then so can I!

    God, do I even need to say it?

    I can take it because I am a gay man!

  10. bobbyjoe says

    I guess the way I see it is when Obama is able to counter with a message that’s “here’s what we’re specifically doing” rather than mainly “the other guys would be worse,” the protests should stop.

    Because one way is offering something specific and the other is just playing to the crowd. It’s sort of like if a student challenged the facts a professor was presenting in a class at a big university. If the professor said “no, and let me show you why my way is specifically right,” it’d be a whole lot more effective (and suggest that the professor actually knew what he was talking about) than if he said “I’m right and, yeah, well if you don’t like it, try getting your facts from a community college. See how you do there!”

  11. patrick nyc says

    Obama is the one who lifted the travel ban for hiv/aids related travelers this past October. AS for his campaigning in CT, the senate race as well as the governors race are tight, though leaning D, they are very close.

  12. says

    It’s a bit of a misnomer to say that “Bush spent more on AIDS funding that Obama does.” It’s an accurate statement on the surface, but ignores the fact that Bush did that with an economy which was largely intact and a budget surplus when he entered office. Further, he did it while running the general economy into the ground and leaving Obama with a lot fewer spending options and more hot button economic issues.

    Anyone can write a check. The challenge of a fiscally responsible President is to try and make sure there is money in the bank when that check gets cashed. Bush was good at the first, but hideous at the second. Obama’s the opposite and that’s working against him in public support because no one likes paying the bills.

  13. gregv says

    I would challenge the way some commenters make a connection between global HIV/AIDS funding and the so-called GLBT community, for three reasons:

    1) gay women have lower rates of HIV than any other group in the world

    2) domestically, about half of HIV/AIDS is among MSM, but in the countries to which “global HIV/AIDS funds” are directed, it is by far found mainly among heterosexuals

    3) the funding as it exists now is largely going to programs and governments that systematically discriminate against gay, bisexual and transgendered people, therefore those people are inordinately neglected by global HIV/AIDS funding compared to heterosexuals

    I think we need more HIV/AIDS prevention and treatment to begin with domestically and locally. But I wish that any money that is sent overseas would be tied to requirements to clean up human rights abuses and ensure that the money does not discriminate against anyone

  14. SteveC says

    What’s the alternative to the Republicans or the Democrats. Silly me. There ISN’T one. Makes a bit of a joke out of the idea of American democracy. I’ll not vote for either. This idea that the Republicans are worse than the Democrats is ridiculous, considering how rightwing Obama’s Democrats are. Democracy is dead. The corporations run this country. And that’s not about to change.

  15. Baron says

    It seems to me this demonstration was not about global funding, but money for people with AIDS here in the US. The current administration, and the Democrats in both houses, have cut back on drug assistance funding, the funding passed in 2003 under George W. & the Republicans. (Ugh–I know…I hate to admit it).

    No action on DADT, DOMA, now AIDS funding? As a gay democrat, I am not happy with the party. There isn’t much of a viable alternative, but I wonder how much of an effect this will have on the mid-terms?

  16. TANK says

    NO, Obama implemented lifting hiv/aids travel ban; Bush signed it into law. You don’t get to choose your own facts.

  17. jason says

    Fund global AIDS? What the fuck are these activists talking about?

    Maybe it’s these activists who should fund it. In any case, it’s a waste of money. AIDS is largely due to poor lifestyle choices which weaken the immune system, such as promiscuous sex, drug use, and poor diets.

    The AIDS activists are like the global warming activists: clueless and so yesterday.

  18. TANK says

    Yeah, because global warming’s a hoax right, jason? Oy…nutbag.

    There is a strong element of accountability in seroconversion, but not when it’s a kid born with it, or other scenarios in which a choice was not operative in the function.

  19. M.E. says

    Gays won’t DARE show up at a Rethuglican rally with this bullshit because they are fucking cowards! They will protest Dems because they know their safety will not be in jeopardy. But Rethuglicans will stomp on their heads, as we have already seen. So they fucking bitch and moan about Obama “throwing them under a bus” but get quiet when confronted about their own hypocrisy! They can’t even protest about the RIGHT issues. They keep yelling about AIDS funding when it is already being addressed. They want to compare their movement to the Civil Rights Movement but they can’t, because Blacks were willing to face firehoses and vicious dogs, while gays either don’t want any bruises on their pretty faces or they just can’t be bothered because they have “a life?” You are no fucking different than the people you criticize as “not doing anything.” You don’t want to be judged for your pussyism but you want all the benefits of REAL activism. “Gay Movement” my ass. You’re just a bunch of whining privileged assholes, with only a few rare fighters among you who are actually DOING something for “the cause” instead of just making stupid pronouncements about withholding your votes. Yeah, THAT’LL work! Idiots.

  20. Roger says

    The assertion that the Republicans would do worse on AIDS than the current Democratic leadership is simply incorrect,” said Weinstein. “After all, it is Republican Senators Coburn and Burr who have introduced bills to solve the nation’s ADAP crisis and increase treatment slots for global AIDS patients— bills which have stalled largely due to lack of Democratic support.

  21. Kyle Sullivan says

    This is sounding more and more like an abusive relationship. “Who cares if I spit on you and smack you around? You have to stick with me because you got no place else to go.”

    Guess what, Obama — I sure as hell do, and I do NOT take abuse well, you two-faced SOB.

  22. Asher says

    M.E, I love you so much right now. This is exactly how I’ve been feeling for the past couple of months.

  23. Parsons says

    I just don’t understand how President Obama hasn’t found a way to end all wars, give everyone a job, eliminate discrimination, find a cure for HIV … like c’mon man … you’ve had almost 2 years now to do so. Thats the change we expected.

    I thought everything you touched would turn to gold. Sigh … I guess I will have to show my unhappiness in not going out and voting this Tuesday.

    So when I go to vote on Tuesday – I am going to vote for the GOP. I dont care about the fact that America’s reputation was destroyed over 8 years, or the fact the economy tanked on Bush’s watch or the fact the country become known for its soundbites rather than honest discussion.

    That doesnt matter at all! Im going to sit here behind my computer and pledge my support for the GOP. You remember those years right?!?!? Those years were grand – good times … good times …

  24. ratbastard says

    Bush is indeed responsible for large increases in AIDS funding and lifting the HIV ban…give credit where credit is due.

    Obama and both Democrat controlled houses should have repealed DADT A LONG time ago. It’s still a clusterfuck. And it’s probably the one do-able tangible thing they could have done regarding gay civil rights.

    The truth is the Democrats know ‘progressive’ gays have no choice other than Democrats. They treat gays the same way they treat blacks, who ALWAYS vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. Now don’t get me wrong, Republicans do the same thing to their captive audience.

  25. ratbastard says

    Parsons:

    MANY things Obama and Congress have done over the past 2 years have made things worse or not improved anything even after spending trillions of dollars. Obama and the Democrats in Congress have also proven themselves [not all, most] to be controlled by big money interests, multinational corporations and Wall St., lock,stock and barrel. Pretty much everything they’ve done, including obamaCare, benefits them first and foremost, not the average citizen.

  26. Parsons says

    Then by all means … vote Republican! You show them money grabbing Democrats that the real voice for the common man are those nice Republicans. You know the GOP who have gained back their popularity by offering … well there has to be something they have offered …

  27. Q says

    Ratbastard,

    The fact that you use the term “Obamacare” is very telling. But please tell me, what president has done more for healthcare reform of any kind IN TWO YEARS than Obama.

  28. ratbastard says

    Q:

    I live in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. The federal government’s healthcare overhaul is based directly and is almost identical to my state’s universal healthcare system. NEWSFLASH: It doesn’t work that well. It’s now impossible finding a primary care doctor who is accepting new patients. Premiums and costs are not under control. Those who lacked coverage through genuine poverty have always been able to get FREE healthcare through Medicaid in addition to hospitals and clinics that receive large government subsidies to give free care to those who can’t afford to pay. Now the federal government is cannibalizing Medicare and Medicaid to pay for, yes, OBAMACARE. The real beneficiaries of ObamaCare [and the Massachusetts system] are the health insurance industry, big pharmaceuticals, and a gigantic new federal government bureaucracy.

    If the intention was to get coverage for the alleged 40 million or so uninsured, they could have simply expanded Medicaid for those truly in poverty and offered insurance pools for those not poor but unable to afford premiums due to being self employed or not offered through their employer. It would have cost a lot less money and trouble than ObamaCare.

    Have a nice day.

  29. Natira says

    I support Obama on this issue. It has to be done right. Because we know that US funds to fight AIDS has gone to christian groups to fight homosexuality in Africa.

  30. ratbastard says

    Well, to put it bluntly Natira, a lot of the aid money sent to Africa ends up in the off shore bank accounts of it’s corrupt leaders. The Christian evangelicals and Muslims manage to raise their own cash.

  31. Natira says

    RB, not just corrupt leaders, but corrupt NGOs/CBOs, of which 1000s exist. And the US does fund religious NGOs who oppose homosexuality.

  32. Q says

    Ratbastard,

    I asked you who has done more for healthcare reform, not if it was a great system. Clearly it is not perfect, BUT as least it is SOMETHING, compared to what McCain would have done had he won, which surely would have been NOTHING. And what we have now was not what Obama initially presented to Congress, but the Dems had no fucking backbone and kowtowed to the Reps demands. So a more accurate description would be CONGRECARE.

    As per this Reuters article, you are drastically overstating the so-called “cannibalism of Medicare”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62J1FS20100322

    As for expanding Medicare coverage, though it sounds like a good idea, it is also problematic:

    http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1947063,00.html

  33. Paul R says

    GregV is absolutely correct: outside the US and other prosperous countries, HIV/AIDS has little to do with GLBT issues. It’s a health care issue (duh), sociological issue (mainly, husbands cheating on wives or having multiple wives), and human rights issue, and is often at its peak in countries that despise GLBT people.

    I’m far more inclined to support malaria, tuberculosis, polio, and even cholera control in many of those countries, because those diseases have disastrous effects on children. I’m no fan of excessive birth rates, but at least children are still young enough that there’s some mild hope they can lead healthy lives and avoid at least some of the hatred spewed by their ignorant forebears—who, as we’ve seen everywhere, rarely change for the better.

  34. Fenrox says

    @Tank, Obama lifted the Ban, Bush started to but fell short, He made it so that you could get a 30 day visa if you have your AIDS meds.

    YOU don’t get to make crap up either. I mean the internet is available to you dude.

    Also to everyone else, I hate you and you make me ashamed to be 1) Literate, 2) Gay, 3) White, 4) Better than you.

  35. ratbastard says

    Q:

    Both Time and Reuters SUCK…they really do.

    I stand by my previous posts.

    …Have a nice day

  36. Q says

    Ratbastard,

    Whether they suck or not has no bearing on the facts. Either they are wrong or right. If they are wrong, prove it.

  37. TANK says

    Bush signed repeal of the aids travel ban into effect, and obama implemented it. What’s not to understand? Them’s the facts, stooopit.