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Watch: Liberty Counsel Wingnut Matt Barber and AFA's Tim Wildmon Discuss Favorite Topic — Military Men in Showers


Liberty Counsel wingnut homophobe Matt Barber appears on American Family Association radio with host Tim Wildmon to discuss their favorite topic: soldiers showering together.

Says Wildmon: "You don't put openly homosexuals with a bunch of straight guys, a bunch of red-blooded.... you don't do that, in the same way you wouldn't put a woman in a shower with a man in the military. There's sexual tension."

Barber responds, citing some bizarre statistic that 24% of soldiers would leave if DADT were lifted, says "socialist" Obama wants to create "a petri dish for radical San Francisco-style social experimentation."

Scaring conservatives with the "ick factor" of gay sex is really all these two have left.


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  1. Jeezus...have these two got "issues" or what? I still find it hilarious that if we supposedly have the roughest-toughest fighting men in our military, they can become absolutely unglued, sniveling cowards if some other guy looks at their junk in the shower. Pathetic.

    Posted by: Alexander | Nov 11, 2010 8:42:18 AM

  2. The only "ick" factor that comes into play is having to look at this idiots ugly mug, never mind his hateful rhetoric.

    Why is it that all the least attractive heterosexual conservative males assume that anyone, male or female, is interested in pinching their elephantine backsides?

    Posted by: yonkersconquers | Nov 11, 2010 8:45:20 AM

  3. Idiots with an audience.....plain and simple.

    Posted by: Lloyd | Nov 11, 2010 8:45:56 AM

  4. Us gays already shower with straight servicemen, there will be sexual tension. From who the straights?
    Barber saying our military will be laid to ruin if dadt is lifted what a drama queen

    Posted by: Terry | Nov 11, 2010 9:20:48 AM

  5. a San Fransisco beatnik? wow there hasn't been one of those since ... 1962?

    Posted by: jgm22 | Nov 11, 2010 9:37:50 AM

  6. They both look straight out of a bear lovers fantasy. I wonder if they know that, or if it is on purpose??? If anyone is getting "tense" in the showers, I guarantee it's these two closet cases. So instead they just talk about it to each other all day long and then go home and jack off. whatever....

    Posted by: gaylib | Nov 11, 2010 9:59:34 AM

  7. @gaylib-that was my first reaction when I saw the photos. I imagined them in leather harnesses and boots. amazing.

    Posted by: CoMo'mo | Nov 11, 2010 10:15:54 AM

  8. We fear most what we desire.

    Posted by: Steve | Nov 11, 2010 11:19:40 AM

  9. A real soldier never showers, he is too busy fighting.

    Posted by: ila lwara | Nov 11, 2010 11:50:26 AM

  10. God, he's ugly.

    Gays have been living (and showering) among straights FOREVER. If for some reason HE'S feeling sexual tension all the time around gays, that doesn't mean everyone else is!! What is his problem??

    Posted by: X | Nov 11, 2010 11:51:37 AM

  11. Man I am tired of people bad mouthing SF. If you ever actually go there you will notice that a lot of the people are happy and nice. SO what are you saying? You don't want our Army happy and nice?

    Posted by: Fenrox | Nov 11, 2010 12:19:53 PM

  12. Listening to this guy talk is like nails on a CHALK BOARD! He sounds like an IDIOT?!?!?!

    Posted by: Hollywood, CA | Nov 11, 2010 1:18:20 PM

  13. Wow. These 2 are such closet cases! "Me thinks they do protest too much"!

    Posted by: james Brown | Nov 11, 2010 1:25:49 PM

  14. Obama is a "dyed-in-the-wool socialist secularist?" Wait--I thought he was a Muslim or a liberation theologist. Which is it?

    On another note, we need to do a better job at tackling this argument of "the politics of disgust," as described by Martha Nussbaum (who exposes and criticizes it). Basically, homophobes use their "projected disgust" over what they imagine gay sexuality to be to justify their anti-gay policies. It totally is the "ick factor."

    Posted by: Dave | Nov 11, 2010 5:01:17 PM

  15. Does he think any gay man would ever want to look at, let alone touch his penis? It's funny that all these military people are terrified of gay men? I have a friend that spent 25 years in the service and said more "str8" men propositioned him than any other gay men serving. He needs to get a clue and realize that gay people serve along side USA soldiers already from other countries with out the Earth crumbling. "OMG, a gay man looked at me, I should be afraid." Neanderthals left over from the last Ice Age these two.

    Posted by: Skooter McGoo | Nov 11, 2010 5:57:13 PM

  16. Servicemembers are showering with homosexuals NOW! Does anyone really think all the gays have left the Armed Forces? There have been homosexuals in the service for years. In the late 70'smy partner and I lived in Portsmouth,VA, where he was stationed with Navy. We had many gay friends also deployed there. In the 90's, living in San Diego, I knew many gay Marines stationed there. I doubt too many people have a problem eith gay servicemambers.

    Posted by: mad1026 | Nov 11, 2010 7:44:07 PM

  17. How is it any different than showering at a fitness club/gym? These guys are fucktards!

    Posted by: Fat Queer | Nov 12, 2010 12:29:10 PM

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