1. princely54 says

    There should be some kind of action against the new shop. Why not picket the place so that people will think twice about going into the place? Strangle the business…

  2. Frank says

    The evil is that people like this misuse and abuse the Bible, literally and very selectively, to spread hatred…contributing to an epidemic of gay youth homelessness and suicides. At it’s core…the inacceptance, by this man and others, of the huge diversity which God has created (without mistakes)on this earth.

  3. Arjuna says

    The thing to do is clearly to have a big crowd of about 20 gay people go there, order coffee and pastry and sit there all day. If lively refuses to serve them, sue under Massachusetts’ non discrimination law which covers public accommodations.

  4. ProudPortlander says

    Springfield beware of this man.

    He belonged to a rabid antigay group know as the Oregon Citizen’s Alliance (OCA) and that sponsored 4 different ballet measures in Oregon to discriminate against gay people. The first was in 1992 and was ballot measure 9. In part the measure said:

    “ All governments in Oregon may not use their monies or properties to promote, encourage or facilitate homosexuality, pedophilia, sadism or masochism. All levels of government, including public education systems, must assist in setting a standard for Oregon’s youth which recognizes that these behaviors are abnormal, wrong, unnatural and perverse and they are to be discouraged and avoided. ”

    As for “free coffee”, he’s doing this so he can say it’s a religious institution and therefore get tax breaks. The OCA did this a number of times in Oregon trying to shelter their money and hid it from the public eye.

    He was not a “reverend” when he lived here and I would suspect this is just another part of a plan to wrap his operations in a tax exempt wrapper.

    Bottom line, he was hateful and shady in 1992 and I don’t see any change. Watch out!

  5. Lazlo says

    @ProudPortlander Could Lively be using the money from the tax breaks to live on? I bet alot of people like him are just doing this for the money. But I’m curious what your opinion is.

  6. Skooter McGoo says

    They will just put a Starbucks next door and that will be the end of it. Freedom of speech has consequences of that choice of words and the intent behind them.

  7. Paul R says

    I don’t think gays should give a cent to this man. And how would he even know they’re gay unless they wear buttons or shirts proclaiming it? I’d watch his actions but ignore him and his store as much as possible. Any action against him and he’ll be able to proclaim himself a misunderstood martyr, so I wouldn’t spend money or time in his shop. I’d spread the word that he’s evil.

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