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  1. Jack says

    Still don’t get why this guy is such a big gay “cause celebre”

    If he’s guilty, which certainly still needs to be proved, I’d say throw away the key. Just because he’s gay doesn’t mean he’s being persecuted, and doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be strictly punished.

    And no, anger over DADT doesn’t excuse what he did.

  2. milo says

    Military law is different and separate from civil law – one gives up certain rights when in the military. It’s strange though, why he is protecting Assange – who stands to make a fortune on book deals, etc. while this poor idiot rots in prison.

  3. Jack says

    stevec:

    Milo hit the nail on the head: the UCMJ is not the same as civilian law, necessarily. Serving in the armed forces is a privilege, and comes with extra restrictions and responsibilities.

    He does need to have the charges proven against him, I won’t deny that. I don’t know if he’s guilty or not. But if he is, he has committed a pretty terrible offense.

  4. SteveC says

    “Military law is different and separate from civil law – one gives up certain rights when in the military. ”

    I am aware of that.

    However being locked up without charge under military law is also deeply worrying and suspicious.

    I think it is undemocratic and sinister and portrays the Army as an institution which can not and should not be trusted.

  5. SteveC says

    “He does need to have the charges proven against him, I won’t deny that. I don’t know if he’s guilty or not. But if he is, he has committed a pretty terrible offense.”

    So charge him already.

    Being a member of the Army is not a justification for removing his right to due process indefinitely. And keeping him in solitary confinement could be construed as torture. How long has he been locked up in solitary confinement without charge now?

    And his alleged ‘crimes’ – well I applaud him for them. The utter lack of respect the US and other governments have shown for democracy deserves to be exposed.

  6. SteveC says

    The arguement that he endangered individual American soldiers is fake. The hatred felt towards the US in the Middle East and beyond does not rely on Bradley Manning’s revelations. It’s not like any of the Wikileaks revelations was a surprise. They were merely confirmation of what we all knew.

    If our craven, mainstream media industry were doing their jobs properly and refusing to allow the administration to buy their silence, then all the stories would have already have been in the media.

  7. Bob R says

    @STEVEC: Thank you for your posts. I agree with you 100%. He’s a whistle blower and no worse than Daniel Berrigan, who to many is a hero for what he did. Even as a member of the military, he has rights. One of those rights is access to both military and civilian counsel. Our treatment of Manning is just one more indication that America has become a moral cesspool.

    Cheney and his accomplices outed a covert CIA operative and put lives at risk, if there were not lives lost as a result. Scooter Libby took the fall, and even he was not subjected to any where near the deplorable treatment Manning has received. As for his sexuality, it’s irrelevant. Above all he’s an American and to many a patriot.

  8. dizzy spins says

    He’s not a whistleblower–he didnt stand up publicly and call out the military on a particular wrongdoing. He secretly copied tons of documents about all kinds of things and passed it off to a third party for their own use.

    Based on interviews with his contacts and email that Manning wrote, he was at least somewhat troubled before his arrest and leaking the documents was a way to vent his frustration with the military and his life in general.

    No one, not even Osama bin Laden, should just be tossed in a secret hole and not charged with anything. He should be charged and placed in a regular military prison.

    BUT that doesnt negate what he did was illegal. It doesn’t matter how sensitive the material was. You go to jail for shoplifting a ham as same as a mink coat.

    BTW, anyone who thinks Al Jazeera is somehow better than Fox or any other American network when it comes to objective reporting is willfully ignorant. How’s their coverage of women’s rights? Of anti-gay atrocities in the Middle East?

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