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  1. says

    @Nautilus85, I totally agree, though “cute” is not the word that would seem appropriate to describe a woman who regularly wears thongs or Spanx out in public and meat dresses to awards shows. Yet how she can come across as endearing and sweet is kind of a testament to either her acting skills or her character. I choose to believe that it is the latter.

  2. Stephen says

    Thanks for posting this and reminding me that this will be on. Gaga, behind all the make-up and costuming, is really a lovely person. I can’t wait for this interview. :-)

  3. SKOC211 says

    @Jeffrey Oh that’s cool, Jeffery, I guess you’ve already heard the song which doesn’t come out for another 12 hours? And Gaga hates gay people? Thanks for your brilliantly original and insightful commentary <3

  4. Jay says

    SKOC211, I think Jeffrey is referring to the lyrics, which have been out for weeks, and yeah, it is a retread of “Express Yourself.” A really bad retread. The Born This Way lyrics are HORRIBLE. Absolute trash. I think Germanotta stole them from the inside of a 9-year old’s Lisa Frank Trapper Keeper.

  5. SKOC211 says

    @Jay The “Born This Way” lyrics aren’t even remotely an “Express Yourself” retread. The songs are about completely different things. As a long time Madonna fan I think the constant attacks on Gaga for “ripping off” Madge are hackneyed and ridiculous. I’m honestly fine with you considering the lyrics as being stolen from a nine year old’s Lisa Frank trapper keeper – because of course pop stars are regularly regarded for their Wordsworthian poetry – but calling her a scam artist who hates gay people is just stupid. It’s ignorant, false, insensitive, and just plain douchey.

  6. Nautilus85 says

    There’s a real gem under all that glitter… Maybe I like Gaga because I’m a fine artist/painter, and I feel like she’s a true performance-artist at heart. She certainly can stir up emotions, but there is no real reason for hate a pop star. She’s no Joni Mitchell, but she can sing and she can write her own (hit) songs. I like the idea of somebody like her – adventurous beautiful freak, gay rights supporter, professional weirdo- can be so successful and popular. Lady Gaga is practically Madonna without the legend… give her 10 years she’s gonna be an ICON. She’s here, she’s queer, get used to her! She’s trying to change the world for the better through her art, that’s quite admirable really.

  7. Nautilus85 says

    Oh, and let me tell you something about art; there is nothing wrong with getting inspired by other artists! You can blatantly steal if you want, just use it in a different creative way. Stop bitching about nothing, and learn some art-history. Jeez.

  8. Kugel says

    Y’see, what you do to show your cultural boner-fides is trash whoever is on top at the time. Here’s the thing: this one actually sings, plays an instrument, and writes her own music. I’ll take it.

    As far as being derivative, please. Every performer takes from the previous generation. What? You thought Madonna emerged from a half shell in the sea mist?

  9. SKOC211 says

    @Kugel “As far as being derivative, please. Every performer takes from the previous generation. What? You thought Madonna emerged from a half shell in the sea mist?”

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. The attacks on Gaga have been about as derivative as they claim her to be.

  10. Natira says

    @Nautilus85 It’s not the stealing that’s the problem. It’s the fact that she’s claiming inspiration from, and copying great queer artists and icons, and she’s producing caca .. CRAP! How do you admire David Bowie or Queen and then write some half-assed pop song? And yeah, her music sounds like cheap imitation Madonna

  11. Kugel says

    @Natira. Have you heard Bowie’s first album? Pretty spotty. It wasn’t “Space Oddity”… and “Hunky Dory” was three albums later. Madonna’s first had some great stuff, but nothing to indicate she’d be here in 2011. Perspective, guys. She might flop or be here to stay. Time will tell.

  12. Jay says

    Ah yes…Gaga CAN’T hate gay people…because she says she likes them, and brings their “culture” to the masses, donates a tiny fraction of her earnings to gay charities, and inspires gays to be themselves (and “being yourself” = shelling out money for songs about bluffin with your muffin).

    Similarly, the makers of Blaxploitation films must have had tremendous respect for African-Americans, because, hey… they made films about black people, they employed black people in their movies, and brought black culture to the masses. Only HATERS and IGNORANT people who dont understand ART would think Blaxploitation film makers had little respect for black people.

  13. Grover Underwood says

    I’m going to watch; I’m not a big fan of pop music but there’s something about Gaga that just strikes me. Some of the haters should listen to her version of “Imagine” that she performed at I think the last HRC dinner-it was the one where Obama spoke. I was blown away by it.

  14. Nautilus85 says

    @Natira Arguing about personal taste is a waste of time. I don’t like Queen,and i hate everything Bowie did before the 90’s. I’m 25 maybe it’s a generational thing…how old are you?

  15. Kugel says

    @Jay. You have no evidence she hates gay people, and there is contrary evidence that says otherwise. You’re rambling.

    @Nautiluss. Generation is no excuse. I like Billie Holiday and Johnny Cash and I can assure you they were well before my time. Give early Bowie (who had like 5 different personas and sounds in 5 years) and Queen another try.

    @me. Get off the laptop and pour another glass :)

  16. Phil says

    @Jay: Just because you use the word “similarly”, that doesn’t support your claim that Gaga is exploiting gay people “similarly” to how blaxploitation films exploited African-Americans. I think that the audience who “shells out money” for Gaga music is much more sexually diverse than you’re willing to admit.

  17. Jay says

    Phil, Wow, so only black people watched Blaxploitation films? I didn’t say only gay people bought Gaga’s “music.” But her “I’m an outsider who loves other outsiders–like my pets, teh gay!” persona is nothing but cold, corporate calculation.

  18. Nautilus85 says

    @Kugel I like art in many forms, im an artist myself and my main source of inspiration is music. Plus, Boyfriend is a musician (pianist, composer) so i know my music well. As I said it’s a question of personal taste… I can’t stand Bowie’s young voice (I adore his changed older voice) Outside, Earthling, Hours, Heathen, Reality – I love it! (seen him live here in the UK many times) I never liked Freddie Mercury sorry. Im more into the artsy alternative/experimental hipster music.

  19. Phil says

    @Jay: This is a genuinely sympathetic suggestion, not a patronizing one: lose the sarcastic quotes around the word “music” when you’re forming your argument. I couldn’t find your Gaga quote on the Internet, but even if I accept the quote as factual, it might be a heartfelt sentiment rather than a cold, mercenary calculation. Give her the benefit of the doubt?

  20. Nautilus85 says

    @Jay It is wise to direct your anger towards REAL problems – like your country’s religious right. They are an embarrassment to the western society. Lady Gaga is just a pop-singer. A silly weird funny unique strange awesome cool odd cute fun different intelligent amazing pop-singer.

  21. says

    i hate the old queeny bitches in these comment boards. Go sit in your rocking chairs, put on your madonna RECORDS, knit your socks, and let today’s gay youth fall in love with gaga. SIT BACK BITCHES!!! YOUR TIME IS OVER! I don’t understand why your dicks get in such a twist over anything gaga related.

  22. Jay says

    Phil and Nautilus–What anger? Seriously, what anger? I’m not directing anger toward anyone. I’m merely commenting on how pop stars cultivate their images, and that their intentions may not be as heartfelt as they want you to believe.

    And Phil, that wasn’t a direct quote, I was just saying. As for giving her the benefit of the doubt… Maybe some people are just more suspicious of strangers who offer them candy.

  23. Phil says

    Now that I recall the events of last year, who was it who lobbied senate majority leader Harry Reid for DADT repeal and organized a rally in Maine to pressure senators Snowe and Collins to vote for DADT repeal? Or was that all just a publicity stunt, Gaga haters? Shame on you.

  24. SKOC211 says

    @Jay Generally speaking when I feel the need to debate or argue with another person, on an internet blog, no less, I tend to be articulate, pointed with my criticism, and I try to demonstrate both why I feel my line of thought is more correct and why the other persons is not. I honestly don’t feel you deserves such consideration. Your suggestion –

    But her “I’m an outsider who loves other outsiders–like my pets, teh gay!” persona is nothing but cold, corporate calculation.

    – is devoid of reason, ignorant of fact, and reeks of the kind of bitterness I hope to never experience. The woman writes pop songs and spends more time than her peers (or anyone else of her status) advocating for equality for the LGBT community. Unless you’re some obscure performance artist that likes to stir things up on various blogs in pursuit of some vague and meaningless ends than I just don’t get it. Have fun hating on one of the most positive influences our community has ever had – and I say that without hyperbole.

    I, on the other hand, eagerly await the debut of “Born This Way” in the next few hours.

    May your wine be bitter as you are and your cheese be stale as stale as your arguments.

    Hugs and kisses.

    -SKOC211

  25. Jay says

    SKOC211: LOL…Wow…I’ve been schooled…your reasoning is impeccable…and articulate…you totally demonstrated why your line of reasoning is more correct… “The woman writes pop songs.” Wow. How insightful. And I love how your line of reasoning includes calling me “bitter” and “stale.” How original. We have never seen gay men use those words before.

    Sorry hon. You proved nothing, other than that gay men have a hive mind, cannot see beneath the surface of things, and hurl personal insults when someone injects an alternate opinion into their echo chambers–and latch on to any trashy trend.

  26. Kugel says

    @Jay I went back and looked at your comment and couldn’t find one bit of evidence to support your argument. Is there a single piece of evidence that logically (repeat: logically) supports your claim that she hates gay people? 1, 2, 3…

  27. Phil says

    @Jay: “Sorry hon. You proved nothing, other than that gay men have a hive mind, cannot see beneath the surface of things, and hurl personal insults when someone injects an alternate opinion into their echo chambers–and latch on to any trashy trend.”

    Is that what gay men are like? Sounds like a fundamentalist Christian world view.

  28. SKOC211 says

    @Jay Oh sorry dear, I was just operating within the parameters given to me. Let’s review the statement that I took issue with:

    Phil, Wow, so only black people watched Blaxploitation films? I didn’t say only gay people bought Gaga’s “music.” But her “I’m an outsider who loves other outsiders–like my pets, teh gay!” persona is nothing but cold, corporate calculation.

    Unless mine gay “hive mind” eyes doth deceive me (Shakespeare! How quaint, right!?) I see nothing suggesting the argumentative support you ask of me. Where’s the evidence that she treats – now how did you put it? – “Teh gay,” – like “pets.” Last I saw she wasn’t carrying us around in her Louis Vuitton purse. Unless I missed that Vogue shoot, of course.

    So what we have, essentially, is you cutting and pasting from my original comment to throw in some sarcasm and the same personal insults you so derided me for! Like “trashy trend.” Lovely. But the real problem is that you are equating your own tirade with a real opinion. Now if you have some real demonstrable evidence that The Lady has been exploiting “teh gay” – and I do feel bad for this one particular chap – then I would love to see it.

    Preemptively I would just like to share Phil’s lovely comment:

    “Now that I recall the events of last year, who was it who lobbied senate majority leader Harry Reid for DADT repeal and organized a rally in Maine to pressure senators Snowe and Collins to vote for DADT repeal? Or was that all just a publicity stunt, Gaga haters? Shame on you.”

    I am more than willing to elaborate more. Toodles!

    -Born this way, anyway

    SKOC211

  29. TANK says

    I’m ever so grateful that my filthy despicable potty mouth is censored here because of the children. THE CHILDREN! Think about them and care, for they are a future….when they’re no longer children.

    This is a deeply interesting exchange so far (life altering), and I look forward to the future. To recap with name changes to protect the innocent children.

    Blumpkin: Lady GAGA’s homophobic!

    Senor Donkey Punch: No she’s not!

    B: Uh huh!

    SDP: Nuh uh!

    B:…yeah, I sez.

    SDP: That’s crazy talk, and I’ll have none of it!

    B: Yah, you will.

    Moar, peez!

  30. Xtab says

    If you’re a gay adult male, you should know by now that there’s no difference between calculating theatrics and authenticity. Christ, drag queens have had this figured out for ages…

  31. Xtab says

    And anyways, art is more than its patronage. Gay dudes love opera, and that was the music of the patriarchal (and anti-gay) aristocracy. So who cares if Gaga’s corporate?

  32. JAMES says

    All show, no substance. And Tank is right to show his contempt. It shows how gay people are so easily swayed by a bit of cheap glitter rather than artistry of substance.

  33. Natira says

    Exactly James. Hey, Lady Gaga is a persona created by heterosexual men whom she dated. Men connected in the music industry. They decided to make her a gay icon. Not gays.

  34. brian says

    While it’s true that Lady Gaga has been more supportive of gay rights than Britney, Beyonce etc, her success as a singer is still indicative of a homophobic double standard within the music industry and within the record-buying public at large. Ask yourself this question: would a male Lady Gaga be widely accepted and have their songs hit number 1?

    The mere fact that male singers must abide by strict categories to succeed whereas a female can basically say and do what she wants (including claiming to be bisexual, fake or otherwise) proves that there’s still a double standard operating within America. America is operating on the basis of a double standard.

    It’s a homophobic double standard in that it is biased against male-male sexuality. Lady Gaga is exploiting this in my view. I don’t see her success as necessarily being good for us.

  35. Nautilus85 says

    Yeah, right! Lady Gaga is the root of all evil! Lol! Attention bitter old queens! Slowly leave the dancefloor, go back to the nursing home and listen to your dusty old Village People, ABBA and Gloria Gaynor records m’kay? Let the young ones dance to their own beat. ‘Cause Baby I was born this way! No matter gay, straight, or bi, Lesbian, transgendered life. I’m on the right track baby. I was born to survive…

  36. monsteravery says

    And a new gay anthem is born! Nobody can say this one sounds like her other stuff… funk soul dance pop extravaganza. With a little Madonna mixed in.Can’t wait to see her blow the Grammy’s up with the live performance.

  37. John B says

    60 minutes is pushing GAGA and ACOOPER? on blogs? Guess, the old TV network needs ratings. Gaga is a fresh face, a new breeze regardless of how deep or lasting it will be. Who cares? It is entertainment. The fact that she or Cooper are lightening rods for existential complaints by readers or watchers of culture means they are doing something right. What that is? Well, getting paid to play is a start. Her work marks a time so well, it will surely survive for years to come in filmmaking soundtracks. Blondie’s “Tide Is High” was brilliant in Long Time Companion. Still laugh when that scene comes on. A lot of Blondie is truly hash. Though, today Gaga gets to run around and be the latest scoop. It isn’t a bad gig for a girl or a guy who doesn’t have to go to wall street or the street for income.

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