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AP: Anti-gay Organizations Claim To Be Victims Of Bullying

The AP has published an article today which focuses on the recent head-scratching trend by many anti-gay organizations to absurdly claim that LGBT advocates are bullying them into accepting gays and lesbians.

App To them, the gay-rights lobby has morphed into a relentless bully — pressuring companies and law firms into policy reversals, making it taboo in some circumstances to express opposition to same-sex marriage."They're advocating for a lot of changes in the name of tolerance," said Jim Campbell, an attorney with the conservative Alliance Defense Fund. "Yet ironically the tolerance is not returned, for people of faith who don't agree with their agenda." Many gay activists, recalling their movement's past struggles and mindful of remaining bias, consider such protestations by their foes to be hollow and hypocritical. "They lost the argument on gay people and now they are losing the argument on marriage," said lawyer Evan Wolfson, president of the advocacy group Freedom to Marry. "Diversions, scare tactics and this playing the victim are all they have left."

The piece showcases several examples of how these hateful organizations enjoy playing the victim. One example is the controversy over the last year surrounding two anti-gay phone apps - one from Exodus International and another called Manhattan Declaration. You may remember that the latter was removed not once but twice by Apple.

"The gay-rights groups have shown their fangs," wrote Chuck Colson, the Watergate figure turned born-again Christian who helped launch the Manhattan Declaration. "They want to silence, yes, destroy those who don't agree with their agenda." Exodus International president Alan Chambers, who says he changed his own sexual orientation through religious counseling, said he was alarmed by the aggressive tactics of "savvy gay activists.""We have seen individuals, ministries and even private corporations that dare to hold to a biblical worldview on sexuality bullied into a corner," Chambers wrote in a blog.

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  1. i wonder how many "people of faith who don't agree with [the gay] agenda" have committed suicide because they've been bullied by "savvy gay activists".

    Posted by: raphinou | Jun 12, 2011 8:56:52 AM


  2. See, Jim Campbell...here's the thing. There is no "meeting you halfway" here or "tolerating your viewpoint" because you're "viewpoint" calls for me to not live my life freely, happily and equally.

    Posted by: Leo | Jun 12, 2011 9:04:45 AM


  3. Since when does advocating for tolerance equate to bullying? What planet are these people from?

    Posted by: mytwocents | Jun 12, 2011 9:26:27 AM


  4. summed up, what they are asking for is "Tolerance of their INTOLERANCE"

    Karl Popper discussed such "The Paradox of Tolerance" in his = The Open Society and Its Enemies: The Spell of Plato

    & no, we do not nor should not and sometimes violently should oppose intolerance for when an open enlightened society tolerates intolerance then tolerance will eventually be destroyed by the intolerant and the open society shall cease to exist. For its own survival the open tolerant society must be intolerant of intolerance

    The Paradox of Tolerance

    Posted by: Mstrozfckslv | Jun 12, 2011 9:34:01 AM


  5. Gay KAPO Jonathan Rauch says we should "leave room for homophobia."

    Sorry, queen, there's not room for it -- or you.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Jun 12, 2011 9:37:50 AM


  6. PS to sum up what I posted in a simpler way

    The Paradox of tolerance

    Tolerance tolerating intolerance will be destroyed from within by intolerance

    Posted by: Mstrozfckslv | Jun 12, 2011 9:39:40 AM


  7. "Boo Hoo! David's picking on me!!!!" - Goliath.

    Posted by: Abel | Jun 12, 2011 10:05:40 AM


  8. Christianity and the Bible don't have a very good track record when it comes to issues of equality. The Bible was used to justify slavery, women's rights and inter-racial marriage. Most everyone came to the conclusion that the Bible was wrong on these issues. Those who haven't come to that conclusion, mostly aren't willing to voice their opinions in public. And, if they do, they are roundly criticized. This is a good thing. There is no tolerance left for their previous bigoted beliefs. And, there should be none for their anti-gay beliefs.

    The religious right KNOWS that their anti-gay position is going the way of their previous positions and it frightens them. They don't know what they will do if they don't have anyone left to hate. They will be left to simply mind themselves. And, what fun would that be?

    Posted by: Tim NC | Jun 12, 2011 10:06:22 AM


  9. Turning the tables on us proves how desperate they are when they play the victim card. They know in reality they are losing the cultural war. The more progress we make, the more rants you'll hear coming from these psycho-talkers.

    Posted by: Robert | Jun 12, 2011 10:18:37 AM


  10. Is it intolerant of intolerance to work against intolerance?

    Americans are particularly susceptible to this sort of sophistry. For example, most of us were taught that America was founded by people seeking religious freedom, when in many of them had been thrown out of first England and then Holland for practicing religious intolerance. Even today, many Christian arguments are based on the assumption that freedom of worship includes the right to force your practice on others.

    But perhaps the easiest way to show the absurdity of their circular reasoning is to to agree that African Americans who fought against slavery were indeed intolerant of slave owners, and inconsiderate of their right to own other human beings. In my lifetime, hundreds of thousands of people have become intolerance of segregation and myriad other forms of racism.

    The first part of "And it harm no one, do as you will" is "And it harm no one…" The failure to fight against social structures that harm an entire race of people isn't tolerance - it's complicity.

    Posted by: Bryan | Jun 12, 2011 10:19:02 AM


  11. I couldn't give a shiz if they agree with me or have strong 'religious' belief... just stop short of imagining that your 'beliefs' justify public policy.

    You don't follow the laws of every religion & no one's trying to pass laws against you.

    At its core is a better-than, entitlement that is rarely kept in check in this country. Majority rules, right?

    Posted by: Pete n SFO | Jun 12, 2011 10:32:02 AM


  12. I find the article itself problematical, in that it never really questions the assumption that the "bullying" mantra is legitimate. Quoting Jonathan Rauch -- well, it could have been worse: they could have gone to Chris Barron or Jimmy LaSalvia.

    One question that seems pretty basic to me that no one ever asks the Christianist, anti-gay right: with all the screaming about being "bullied" for their religious beliefs, why do they think that their beliefs should be imposed on everyone else? Maybe if they weren't so dead set on that, people would leave them alone.

    Posted by: Hunter | Jun 12, 2011 11:21:39 AM


  13. The media in the U.S. has been basically silenced or cowed into submission by the right for years. Therefore, almost any article or news report begins with the assumption of legitimacy, even with the most absurd right wing premise.

    Posted by: MacroT | Jun 12, 2011 11:41:36 AM


  14. Abel...the x-tian right will always find someone to hate and next it will be atheist...they've already started campaigns against atheist....you sometimes I wonder why they have to hate a group....the conclusion is that they hate themselves...according to the fundamentalist beliefs I grew up in you are to hate yourself and love jesus and god more...would not cause you to display hate to others?

    Posted by: wyocwboy62 | Jun 12, 2011 11:42:04 AM


  15. Well it's true; they are victims. Victims of stupidity.

    Posted by: Oliver | Jun 12, 2011 12:59:00 PM


  16. Boo effing hoo

    Posted by: Curt | Jun 12, 2011 1:07:31 PM


  17. Ha ha!!! After centuries of bullying gays and Lesbians, now the haters are getting a taste of their own medicine... All I can say is "oh, poor little Nazi, you don't get to stuff Jews into oven anymore, you don't get to enslave blacks, you don't get to beat your barefoot pregnant kitchen-bound wife anymore, and now you don't even get to ruin the lives of gays and Lesbians because the world is less tolerant of evil... Poor baby!!!". Hallelujah!!!

    Posted by: Tom | Jun 12, 2011 2:46:08 PM


  18. Narcissists are hostile and ferocious in reaction, but they are generally passive and lacking in initiative. They don't start stuff -- they don't reach out. Remember this when they turn and rend you! They will complain about the same things for years on end, but only rarely do anything to change what dissatisfies them so badly. ^

    Posted by: I'm Layla Miller I Know Stuff | Jun 12, 2011 5:57:36 PM


  19. If you have learned your lesson, you won't answer that call. They can't see that they have a problem; it's always somebody else who has the problem and needs to change. Therapies work at all only when the individual wants to change and, though narcissists hate their real selves, they don't want to change -- they want the world to change.

    And they criticize, gripe, and complain about almost everything and almost everyone almost all the time. There are usually a favored few whom narcissists regard as absolutely above reproach, even for egregious misconduct or actual crime, and about whom they won't brook the slightest criticism. These are people the narcissists are terrified of, though they'll tell you that what they feel is love and respect; apparently they don't know the difference between fear and love.

    Narcissists just get worse and worse as they grow older; their parents and other authority figures that they've feared die off, and there's less and less outside influence to keep them in check. ^

    Posted by: I'm Layla Miller I Know Stuff | Jun 12, 2011 6:01:09 PM


  20. Bigotry against bigots is not only acceptable, it's simple human decency.

    "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." — Thomas Mann

    Posted by: Attmay | Jun 12, 2011 6:14:38 PM


  21. These people remind me of grade school bullies who have been terrorizing smaller kids for years and then they run up against a kid who fights back. The bully then runs crying to the principal and calls the kid who was defending himself a bully.

    Posted by: PLAINTOM | Jun 12, 2011 6:44:49 PM


  22. They claim to adhere to a "biblical worldview of sexuality"? That's utterly idiotic at best and completely immoral at worst.

    Posted by: David R. | Jun 12, 2011 7:10:39 PM


  23. Brought to you by the same folks who belief white folks are being discriminated against by the Liberal Left....

    Posted by: Steve | Jun 12, 2011 8:57:50 PM


  24. So, turnabout ISN'T fair play?

    Posted by: fanboi | Jun 12, 2011 10:45:17 PM


  25. Maybe if Christian teaching was followed I wouldn't have been abused by homosexuals as a child. I am glad the church is here to protect others.

    Posted by: M | Jun 13, 2011 9:10:46 AM


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