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Rev. Al Sharpton and Thomas Roberts Wipe the NY Marriage Equality Table with NOM's Brian Brown: VIDEO


NOM's Brian Brown calls the NY marriage equality vote a "sham...done under the cover of darkness."

Thomas Roberts and Rev. Al Sharpton would beg to disagree.


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  1. I can't even begin to tell you how much I love that he says "marriage equality" Speak the truth man!!!

    Posted by: Raven | Jun 28, 2011 8:35:05 AM

  2. Not sure about that headline... I think Brown was the best debater. Sharpton was pretty good, and Roberts was a hack. Not to say that I agree with what Brown was saying.

    Posted by: ny | Jun 28, 2011 8:42:14 AM

  3. The NOMbie leader speaks and, as usual, nothing but NOMbie crap falls out of his mouth. What a disgusting person and a disgusting organization!

    Posted by: HadenoughBS | Jun 28, 2011 8:50:04 AM

  4. I love it when Al says, "I do not have the right nor the insensitivity to say, 'People have to believe what I believe.' We're not a society built on one religion or one set of moralities." This principle couldn't be any clearer, and yet anti-gay marriage people will equivocate in their defense until they're blue in the face to avoid saying they're actually just bigots.

    Posted by: John | Jun 28, 2011 8:51:29 AM

  5. How does same sex marriage damage marriage more than divorce? No answer.

    and what were these civilizations that failed after adopting same sex marriage?

    Posted by: verbocity | Jun 28, 2011 8:53:27 AM

  6. Not a very strong argument for our side at all!

    Posted by: Nick | Jun 28, 2011 8:57:40 AM

  7. No way. Brian brown and his ilk are full of logical inconsistencies. He kept trying to draw illogical analogies. Sharpton made the best point by far. Do we have the right to legislate our morality on others when there is no discernable harm to society? No.
    What does procreation or polygamy have to do with it? Nothing. They're just fear words that side loves to throw out. Be afraid, this will harm your children! Be afraid, this will harm your marriage! It's boring rhetoric, not good debate. I could debate brian or mags into the ground. They, like the defenders of prop 8, have no rational leg to stand on. Just stupid analogies and fear tactics. I love what one of the lawyers who decimated prop 8 said. It's easy to get on CNN and spout lies and half truths, nobody will fact check you or call you on it. But it's a lonely place to lie in court under oath.
    They spout fake or suspect statistics, unrelated fears and BS, but when it comes down to it, they've got no reasons but being angry A holes. Not all Americans are stupid enough to take their idiocy at face value. Some want actual facts and real arguments.

    Posted by: Brad | Jun 28, 2011 8:58:36 AM

  8. Brown didn't debate at all. He simply repeated canned slogans and veered off topic throughout. If NOM's concern is the family/marriage breakdown, logic dictates that they start at the core causes, not at the so-called last symptom.

    And if that guy's not a closet case, I'm the King of Kashmir. Jesus, he talks like the bitchy queer character in an old black and white movie.

    Posted by: Clay | Jun 28, 2011 9:08:54 AM

  9. Roberts is a nice guy but he isn't that quick is he? Neither is Cooper actually.

    Posted by: Rowan | Jun 28, 2011 9:14:34 AM

  10. pwnd!

    Posted by: FreddyMertz | Jun 28, 2011 9:16:16 AM

  11. @NY: You can't be serious. Brown didn't debate, he deflected. He refused to answer questions directly. That is not debate.


    Posted by: Marc C | Jun 28, 2011 9:22:23 AM

  12. Bri only complains about backroom deals under the cover of the darkness when they aren't his own deals. It's just a scare tactic to scare his base into giving up more money.

    Posted by: Beef and Fur | Jun 28, 2011 9:50:32 AM

  13. @Marc C.

    You have to feel bad for NY, Nick and Rowan--their combined brain power isn't enough to follow the thread of this argument.

    Posted by: Really? | Jun 28, 2011 10:21:00 AM

  14. IMHO - The last 2 minutes of the discussion was the most telling. Brian Brown was asked if approves of civil unions and the answer is NO! So - even if the GLBT community is given less than equal, it's still not right in his view. The bottom line is that he doesn't want us to have ANY legal legitimacy whatsoever. I have to applaud the Rev. Sharpton for getting Brian Brown to re-iterate the conclusions about NOM that have been obvious to so many of us. This is the reason why the battle for equality needs to continue.

    Posted by: JoesBrat67 | Jun 28, 2011 10:33:10 AM

  15. "Not all Americans are stupid enough to take their idiocy at face value."

    31 amendments to state constitutions prohibiting SSM say otherwise.

    Posted by: Joetx | Jun 28, 2011 10:36:51 AM

  16. Marc C, I agree with you. Brian Brown kept changing the topic. He was like a greased pig or a slippery snake that kept trying to slide away from the questions at hand. He has no regard for the relationships of gay and lesbian couples, he has no regard for their children, he has no concern about divorce or poverty and economic hardships that often lead people to divorce, he has no concern for the serial polygamy of people like Newt Gingrich, he has no regard for the beliefs of other people or other religions or the separation of church and state. NOM has as its sole mission to outlaw same sex marriages and civil unions and dissolve those same sex unions and marriages that already exist in law. And they will try to do that by any means they can, including changing the topic, making wild accusations and lying through their teeth.

    Posted by: John Patrick | Jun 28, 2011 10:50:46 AM

  17. If memory serves, DOMA and DADT were passed--and signed into law by Bill Clinton--"under cover of darkness." Somehow I think that was okay with Brian. HIS darkness is the darkness of "God," after all.

    Posted by: jomicur | Jun 28, 2011 11:10:50 AM

  18. "sham...done under the cover of darkness."

    Really, Brian? Wouldn't that better describe NOM's funding sources? How I love seeing that loser sheen on his fat head.

    Posted by: Ernie | Jun 28, 2011 11:11:03 AM

  19. I respect Rev. Al Sharpton.

    Posted by: Mel Smith | Jun 28, 2011 11:18:06 AM

  20. It's not that marriage equality opponents are “somehow bigoted and discriminatory” -- they are bigoted and discriminatory. Why don't they just own up to it?

    Furthermore, if marriage is such a "unique and special" institution as they claim, how is it that, as they repeat, everyone has been getting married for aeons? So special that everyone does it????

    Posted by: KevinVT | Jun 28, 2011 11:18:12 AM

  21. Would someone please tell Thomas Roberts that the Obama administration is, indeed, still "enforcing" DOMA? What the administration announced was that they would no longer defend DOMA in court. This is different than refusing to enforce the law. The enforcement meme is a right wing talking point. I would think Roberts would know that. Jeesh.

    Posted by: RyanInSacto | Jun 28, 2011 11:40:20 AM

  22. Am I the only one who is surprised that Al Sharpton is on our side? Where have I been? I thought he was against us for some reason.

    Posted by: AJ | Jun 28, 2011 11:40:26 AM

  23. Sharpton is one smart guy. Well done. Brown is blaming Gay citizens for heteros failure of their marriage.

    Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | Jun 28, 2011 11:42:32 AM

  24. Wow, Brian really sucks at his job.

    Posted by: James in Hollywood | Jun 28, 2011 11:48:44 AM

  25. I always thought marriage was the joining of two people who love each other in a legal contract validated by the state with a marriage license. Mr Brown is talking about the religious rite of marriage that is a celebration of that legal contract. One does not have to be married in a church or by a minister to have a legal marriage. One does have to have a license issued by the state. Apples and oranges, Mr Brown?

    Posted by: MichaelD1026 | Jun 28, 2011 11:56:11 AM

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