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Dan Savage, Raven-Symone, Alec Mapa and Joy Behar Discuss the Anti-Gay Southwest Pilot Rant and Gay Pride: VIDEO


Joy Behar and guests take on the anti-gay, sexist rant from a Southwest Pilot earlier this week, and discuss the Gay Pride Parade in New York. Dan Savage is one of the grand marshals this year.


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  1. What's Mr. Savage's nickname? Mr. Photo Op?

    Good grief.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Jun 24, 2011 11:45:48 AM

  2. From

    Colleagues have identified the pilot as Captain James Fritzen Taylor, 46, who resides with his wife in the north Texas town of Argyle, north of Fort Worth.

    His identity was confirmed by two separate highly-placed officials with direct knowledge of the airline's investigation into the matter.

    FAA records show his pilot's license was renewed in April. He was born in April 1965 and previously lived in the San Antonio suburb of Converse and also had previously lived in Carollton, Texas.

    Southwest Airlines employee records show he has been flying for 12-years with the airline, his preferred name is "James" and he is based out of Houston in the Flight Operations division.

    Texas driver's license records show he lives with his wife, and two sons, age 18 and 20, are also licensed to drive at his family home.

    Posted by: EnzoInOmaha | Jun 24, 2011 11:47:54 AM

  3. Also, completely off topic but did Dan Savage get a nose job? The bump in the middle seems to be gone and he looks "different" some how.

    Posted by: RONTEX | Jun 24, 2011 12:17:25 PM

  4. What a great panel! Love you Dan! Thanks for fighting the good fight, and the fantastic column!

    Posted by: Hollywood, CA | Jun 24, 2011 12:19:37 PM

  5. On any thread with Dan Savage as an element, I always make a bet with myself that the hysterical, irrational, and just plain dumb anti-Dan haters and bigots will appear in less than five comments.

    My gratitude to the appropriately named ratbastard for not only not letting me down, but for setting a new land speed record for displaying his abject juvenile jealousy.

    Posted by: dave02657 | Jun 24, 2011 12:25:23 PM

  6. Hahaha, my friend (who is a Southwest flight attendant) told me that pilot was probably married.

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again, straight guys are so stupid. Fire the clown!

    Posted by: nodnarb | Jun 24, 2011 12:29:48 PM

  7. @ratbastard, Jealous!

    @enzo, CREEPY

    Posted by: Fenrox | Jun 24, 2011 12:30:36 PM

  8. Good call Ratbastard. You sure showed him!

    I can understand why some people have issues with some of Dan's opinions, but I don't understand why we have this mad rush to pull down anyone else in the gay community that speaks eloquently and can articulate the hypocrisy that we live in as gay people on a daily basis.

    I want to see more of Dan as he gets to the point and can reason with those that seam unreasonable.

    Posted by: JP | Jun 24, 2011 12:35:37 PM

  9. Southwest pilot - it was a private conversation that accidentally was recorded.

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

    He wasn't creating a hostile environment for anyone. The co-pilot at any time could have said ' Buddy, cool it. Your language is inappropriate.' S/he did not. The intended audience was not offended by the tone of the conversation, so neither should we be.

    This is how people talk. Straight men talk about banging chicks. Gay men talk about banging guys. Bangability of coworkers, likelihood of getting banged.

    Tempest in a teapot. I feel badly for the guy. Imagine if one of your more lurid conversations ( and we all have them ) was accidentally recorded and broadcast to the entire world.

    Posted by: Paul Bunion | Jun 24, 2011 12:46:19 PM

  10. @ PAUL BUNION: you don't know the power situation between the pilot and FO. Perhaps the FO is gay and worried about his/her career? The pilot did create a hostile work environment.

    Posted by: David R. | Jun 24, 2011 1:00:09 PM

  11. Paul, that's BS. The pilot is creating a hostile environment by such talk and is totally innapropriate/unprofessional. What if his co-worker was gay?

    Posted by: nikko | Jun 24, 2011 1:15:50 PM

  12. LOL, how rich. 46 year old, married with kids, working at Southwest for 12 years, lives in a small town in the bigoted part of Texas. Now that his name is out he'll probably be pressured into resigning. Not surprisingly, anti-gays/conservatives are defending this man.

    If Southwest had any sense they would have fired this man already, and they don't really want to put themselves into a situation where there is a lawsuit.

    Yes, everyone has said things in private they don't want public, but I don't think everyone has said such hateful things about several groups of people. Regardless, the man put people at risk because of his irresponsible actions. He needs to go.

    Posted by: Francis | Jun 24, 2011 1:16:04 PM

  13. Hahaha assuming his identity is correct.. he's married!! He's old! I love it! Oh that just makes this so much better. But yeah he's a sh*tty pilot and he got caught saying something that you have to get fired for. So he's got to go. But holy crap this just gets better and better. Maybe by the time he's 50 he'll stop his sexual conquests! No granny's!

    Posted by: Mike | Jun 24, 2011 1:20:56 PM

  14. Correct me if I'm mistaken but it sure seems that we are heading toward the day when it will be unsafe to say anything but Yes or No.

    Posted by: Oliver | Jun 24, 2011 1:32:31 PM

  15. just think how his wife must feel? the whole world just found her husband wants to cheat on her. this must not sit well in their little community.

    Posted by: walter | Jun 24, 2011 1:43:53 PM

  16. If talking about the fuckability of those around you is "creating a hostile work environment" then half the gay flight attendants I've chatted with on long flights should be fired.

    Posted by: BobN | Jun 24, 2011 1:57:27 PM

  17. @RATBASTARD: I'd rate your troll a 1/10. Too obvious and bitchy/queeny to be taken seriously. Try beefing it up by calling him a racist next time.

    Posted by: Randy | Jun 24, 2011 2:03:51 PM

  18. Unprofessional and inappropriate comments are what make life worth living.

    Posted by: Yeek | Jun 24, 2011 2:04:53 PM

  19. Bunion/Oliver - you're right. The man thought he was talking privately, that alone exonerates him. Put a live audio device in anyone's home and see how many inappropriate comments you can record.

    Posted by: Uffda | Jun 24, 2011 2:11:09 PM

  20. There is now a facebook page to fire him.
    Guess that means he's famous, too bad in a wrong way

    Posted by: jack | Jun 24, 2011 2:13:21 PM

  21. David R. is correct. As I pointed out previously, my brother is an FO and he bitches all the time about the way the captains talk and treat FOs. There's a definite power structure in the cockpit and, sadly, it has often led to accidents because the FO is afraid to correct the captain. Fortunately, my brother's not like that: he's taken action repeatedly in safety situations.

    In this situation, it's possible the FO was afraid to say anything against the captain for fear of reprisal.

    Posted by: Joseph | Jun 24, 2011 2:18:24 PM

  22. I agree with Paul Bunion. There are no grounds for firing here, and if he is fired this could set a dangerous precedent. No doubt he would probably hire a lawyer and sue the airline. Why not suspend him without pay and mandate he attend a class on acceptance of different cultures. Maybe he doesn't understand why his words hurt the gay community. Maybe this could be an opportunity to have the airline develop strict non-discrimination guidelines, in addition to educational workshops on LGBT issues.

    Posted by: Lazlo | Jun 24, 2011 2:27:15 PM

  23. Kudos to Joy Behar for regularly doing panel discussion on LGBT matters. As is her style,she uses comics to sell advocacy with humor, usually including a "movement pro" (in this case, Dan Savage) But no other evening talker gives as much screen time to gay rights issues, whether there's a "hot story" or not. And when there is a hot story - such as last years suicides - she devotes whole shows to the matter, not just a quickie segment.

    Joy may not be everyone's cup of tea (I'm the son of a smart gal with a Brooklyn accent, so she feels like family to me), but she deserves credit for her unyielding commitment to our cause.

    Posted by: MFinBH | Jun 24, 2011 2:34:44 PM

  24. I'd like to go for beers with him.

    Posted by: Paul Bunion | Jun 24, 2011 2:35:53 PM

  25. To me, it's not so much that it was a private conversation in the workplace, but a private conversation in a workplace with a working microphone. Sure, he thought it was off. But how many stupid politicians who speak into a mike they thought was off does it take before politicians get wise to the possibility? Well, now pilots can do the same. In the internet age, don't assume the microphone is off. Otherwise, if your "private" comments get transmitted to the world, it's now your fault for being so dumb.

    Posted by: Zlick | Jun 24, 2011 2:43:37 PM

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