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Cuba to Consider Civil Unions?

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Is Cuba on the verge of considering civil unions?

The announcement was made by Mariela Castro, daughter of Raul Castro and the director of Cuba’s national sex education center, during an interview with Spanish broadcaster Cadena Ser earlier this month. Castro, the island’s leading gay rights advocate, said Cuban authorities are already studying the proposal in preparation for the upcoming Community Party conference on Jan. 28.

“This is a historic opportunity, and I think we’re close to having draft legislation,” said Castro, who also revealed in the interview that gay Cubans can serve in the military. “We’ve been working on this issue for a long time, with a lot of activism. We’re starting to see results and a political solution.”

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  1. I imagine the argument for civil unions vs. marriage in Cuba must be pretty weird. Still, better than nothing and better than the U.S. can manage.

    How pathetic that is...

    Posted by: BobN | Jul 29, 2011 10:16:10 PM


  2. That might be the Communist Party conference coming up, not the Community Party...

    Posted by: Ken Monteith | Jul 29, 2011 11:52:15 PM


  3. What kind of a statement is it that CUBA may be more progressive on the issue of marriage (civil unions) equality than the U.S.? I wonder what the Republicans will say about that?

    Posted by: Jim | Jul 30, 2011 2:26:07 AM



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  5. I suspect the far right Christians will say this shows how immoral and communist we all are. Yawn.

    Posted by: corvidae | Jul 30, 2011 5:04:18 AM


  6. "Still, better than nothing and better than the U.S. can manage."

    Bobn, Do you think before you post?

    The U.S. has same-sex marriage equality in Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Vermont, and the District of Columbia. It has varying degrees of legal unions for same-sex couples in at least a dozen other states.

    But I guess in left-wing fantasyland, Cuba is always good, and America is always bad.

    Posted by: Max | Jul 30, 2011 10:07:45 AM


  7. @Max

    It is great that those states have marriage equality but lets not fool ourselves into thinking that those marriages are really equal; we are still denied the federal benefits that marriage offers to heterosexual couples, like social security benefits and inheritance from a spouse without being taxed, not to mention if you leave the state, your marriage is not valid in the majority of states, including the 29 that have constitutional amendments.
    You may think that piecemeal rights are enough and semi equality is adequate, but for many it is not, we do not live in a fantasyland but a land of reality where anything less than full equality is not acceptable.

    Posted by: Jason | Jul 30, 2011 11:34:12 AM


  8. "The U.S. has same-sex marriage equality in Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Vermont, and the District of Columbia. It has varying degrees of legal unions for same-sex couples in at least a dozen other states."

    Christ, and I just took Kramer to task two days ago for stating the obvious about the fight ahead to achieve true marriage equality. I guess I owe his apologists an apology - people are really that ignorant about the rights we've gained and the ones we lack.

    Read up a bit before you speak again please.

    Posted by: Nat | Jul 30, 2011 11:53:55 AM


  9. Jason,

    You say, "we do not live in a fantasyland but a land of reality where anything less than full equality is not acceptable."

    But Bobn wrote, "Still, better than nothing."

    So which is it?

    Jason, my point was simply that the U.S. is better than Cuba, not that we are as groundbreaking as the Netherlands.

    Posted by: Max | Jul 30, 2011 1:27:58 PM


  10. Aren't there about 38 states where gay marrriage is banned in the hate states of america?

    And Cuba is moving forward.

    I can just hear the repubs screaming "gay is communist" etc.

    Similar speech was part of hitler's agenda by which he gained election and murdered 55 million people..

    the catholic church joined with the Nazis and the right wing extremists in Spain during the spanish civil war 1936-1939. Because they hated communists who didn't have a state church.

    Go to WWW.NOBELIEFS.COM/NAZIS/HTM and you will see who joined with the Nazis in germany etc during WWII.

    And of course the germans threw the gays in the overns with the Jews.

    BTW it was the catholic church that gave teh world the hatred of Jews because they wouldn't convert to the absolutist "one true faith"

    A hatred the catholic hitler used in his election campaign.

    And Hitler has yet to be EXcommunicated, dead or alive by the church that claims to support life.

    And of course hates gay marriage

    While it is being re-named the church of the endless hidden molestation all over the world.

    Communism may not work in practice, but the idea of us being equal sounds good when you look at how the repubs are tryign to destrpy the middle classs and take us back to the dark ages.

    Posted by: Billy Wingarten | Jul 30, 2011 6:58:33 PM


  11. Max,

    "Bobn, Do you think before you post?"

    Why, yes, yes I do. See, Cuba is a nation. Did you know that?

    "But I guess in left-wing fantasyland, Cuba is always good, and America is always bad."

    And I guess in right-wing fantasyland, there's no sense of irony -- or anger -- that a dictatorial, authoritarian, terror regime has managed to do something beyond the reach of our capitalist paradise.

    It's the fact that we're better that's so infuriating. Or is it enough for you to go all nationalist?

    All together now... WE'RE NUMBER 37!!!

    Posted by: BobN | Jul 30, 2011 11:50:02 PM


  12. Bobn, you are slobbering all over Cuba because they are *considering* civil unions. Meanwhile, we already have that and then some in the better parts of America.

    I'm not sure what your point is about Cuba being a nation.

    Cuba is a nation of 11 million.
    New York is a state with 19 million.

    There are more people in one U.S. state who can marry the same sex than there are in Cuba who *may* be able to have less-than-marriage at some point in the future.

    So, no, Cuba hasn't "managed to do something beyond the reach of our capitalist paradise." It is considering catching up to still being behind New York.

    Sorry to burst your bubble.

    Posted by: Max | Jul 31, 2011 9:54:25 AM


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