Santorum: Gay Marriage ‘Redesigns’ American Culture

SantorumRickP Realizing that he can't win the Republican Party's presidential nomination without playing to the virulently anti-gay crowd, former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum again trumpeted his "traditional values" in an interview with the Des Moines Register.

And, surprisingly, amid all of his ideological hate-mongering, Santorum makes a valid point: "You can’t have 50 different definitions of marriage."

The candidate continued:

It’s wrong and we should fight it in every state and we should try to pass a federal law that makes sure that it is a uniform definition. … I think this is an issue that needs to be settled collectively by the American public, not by a few groups of elites who think it best to redesign the American culture.

Santorum's right: we shouldn't have 50 definitions of marriage, and, yes, we do need a federal amendment on the matter.

However, his ultimate conclusion — that the amendment should ban same-sex nuptials — runs against the American grain, not only in terms of democratic freedoms, but also popular opinion: polls consistently show that the majority of the nation believes gay couples should be allowed the same marriage rights as their straight friends and neighbors.

And our federal government should reflect that…

Comments

  1. says

    As a Brit, I am constantly surprised by the fuss the US makes about gay marriage, rights, etc. and sometimes I forget how your battle is still being fought. I say your because I am heterosexual. I’ve been trying to spread the word that Leonardo da Vinci was gay (he was – no doubt)and the Mona Lisa is his young male lover, Salai. It’s just as well he wasn’t an American artist or the truth would never be out.

  2. Steve says

    Doesn’t he have anything else to talk about? Like a real political agenda, rather than these rants on social issues?

    I’m gay. I’m for same-sex marriage. But this bores me to death.

  3. alexInBoston says

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    PLEASE “RICK” ROLL THIS POS AND PLEASE DO IT SOON…… JUST AS SUGGESTED YOU WOULD…

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  4. Artie Rimbaud says

    Santorum understands that he’s not going to win the Republican nomination, and he’s just becoming a crashing bore. By the way, where are all the commenters who are always shrieking that Dan Savage is vulgar and tasteless. Don’t those commenters ever have similar criticism for how tasteless Rick Santorum’s obsession with gay sex is? Not even one little peep of Santorum criticism from the Dan Savage haters? Why is that, I wonder?

  5. Oliver says

    DITTO!! ^^^

    “ATTENTION DAN SAVAGE (i know he reads these)

    PLEASE “RICK” ROLL THIS POS AND PLEASE DO IT SOON…… JUST AS SUGGESTED YOU WOULD…

    THANK YOU DAN FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE FOR OUR YOUTH AND OUR COMMUNITY,,,,,”

  6. anon says

    We can’t risk a federal marriage amendment at this time and “social engineering” amendments are generally a bad fit for the constitution. Look what happened in CA to see how awkward and how badly these things play out.

  7. John B. says

    American culture is re-designing itself all the time. Often (although not always) for the better. In fact the very founding of our country was a massive re-design, a huge, daring, and absolutely radical social and political experiment. If there is anything distinctive about American culture, it has been our ability and readiness to experiment, to innovate, to CHANGE. When did we become a country of spineless cowards, quivering in fear at the prospect of something being DIFFERENT???

  8. John Bartlett says

    I wish Santorum would just deal with his own personal issues with homosexuality and stay out of other people’s lives. These Republicans want more government interference in people’s lives and then lie about it. Unfortunately for Santorum, he has become a household joke in many places. All one need to is see some of the websites like “spreadingsantorum.com” to see what people really think of him. The Republican party seems have a bus load of nuts for candidates this time.

  9. shle896 says

    What is he so scared of? I think he is waaaaay too concerned about homosexuality. Is he gay himself? Gotta ask, because his visceral hatred of all things gay suggests he is.

  10. Doug Parks says

    Rickie seems to have only one item on his agenda: kill gay marriage. Methinks the lad (or lass) protests too much. Most politicians who constantly harp on this issue are ultimately found to be homosexual themselves but cannot accept it, and so they scream about how horrible it is. For them, yes; for the rest of us, no. Rick, you don’t have the intelligence to be President, and I would appreciate it if you fulminate in your own home but not in everyone else’ face.

  11. Mark says

    Steve et al.

    “Doesn’t he have anything else to talk about?”

    A better question: Don’t you all have something else to do?

    It just amazes me that every time a scumbag of the earth like Rick Santorum opens his mouth to say ANYTHING (it doesn’t even have to be related to gays any more), towleroad is just way too happy to report it and readers can’t wait to comment.

    I don’t know why this extremist has everyone’s attention. This man’s views should make everyone ignore him. The fact that the towleroad readership gets excited every time Santorum opens his mouth says more about the readers here than about Santorum.

  12. bgness says

    Internationally the arc of justice has been swinging a long time toward individual human rights and away from conforming to social norms. While America is not at the forefront of marriage equality, America is certainly caught in the momentum of the larger human rights movement which includes this year’s Arab Spring. Mark my words, once American public opinion hits a threshold, the Republican party will recalibrate it’s platform and support gay rights in order to remain competitive.

  13. Steve says

    Why do you give space on this page for this moron? Santorum is waaaay out of touch. I’m personally sick of giving uneducated, bigoted politicians space on our news sites.

  14. says

    I have no problem with his position that marriage needs to have one definition as long as the amendment keeps in mind that no one can to forced to follow any religious practices against their will. People came to this land for religious freedom, and I’m not about to let anyone take that right away from me.

  15. stanJames says

    I think he’s a baptist minister, the people who gave us slavery, the kkk, and segregation.

    Got a new group to hate.

    Unfortunately about 4 yrs ago he didnt break his effing neck. Some gay people came to talk with him in his office. He jumped up, ran toward the door, aNd god nearly got rid of him, so I’ve read.

  16. Bryan says

    “…Santorum makes a valid point: ‘You can’t have 50 different definitions of marriage.'”

    You can’t? Why not? Because mass production requires mass markets and unless everyone walks in lockstep as a Stepford bride/groom our spiritual economy will collapse?

    Heaven forfend.

    Why can’t we have 50 different definitions of marriage? Why can’t we have 50 million different definitions? Why can’t we let the members of every single marriage define it for themselves?

    Because then we’d have to admit what this is all about, regardless of gay or straight: competition, one-upping your neighbor, the tragic failure of the imagination, cowardice, laziness, and a weak-minded longing for bogus respectability as defined by others whom you don’t like and shouldn’t respect. If we respect individual choice, however will we use mass disapproval to control each other? If we don’t enforce uniformity, how will we avoid being threatened with an endless variety of choices when all we really want is to one more Oreo in the giant CostCo economy pack?

    Instead, let’s all have mandatory marriage, mandatory monogamy, mandatory child rearing, watch TV for 40-60 hours a week and spend the rest of our free time shopping.

    Straight or gay, It’s a wunnerful life.

  17. Craig says

    Doesn’t he have anything else to talk about? Actually, no, apparently, and with the level of obsession he has about homosexuality, this is the biggest self loathing closet case there is. Remember, he’s only raised $500,000 so far. Obama is already the top fund raising presidential candidate in history. Good luck with this one, Santorum: you’re the worst fund raiser in the whole republican field.

  18. says

    Why can’t we have 50 definitions of marriage? Each state has set the rules for marriage all along and there is no reason to change it except in some basics. Racial laws on marriage were rightfully made illegal everywhere, similarly so should laws restricting marriage to heterosexual couples. But the rest of it, such as age, consent requirements if underage, licensing issues, waiting periods, blood tests, etc., are all state issues and not federal issues.

    Right now, if the federal govt. defined marriage there would be no same-sex marriage anywhere. Because we don’t have federal control a substantial portion of gay people can legally marry in their own state, and all can do it if they travel to states that do. The problem is that federal definitions WERE passed making those marriages ineffectively legally at the federal level.

    It seems all the progress made has been made precisely because we can have 50 definitions of marriage and the reasons gay marriages are NOT recognized is federal control. Reality goes against the view expressed in your post.

  19. anon says

    Santorum is Catholic, though he trying to win the evangelical vote. The first amendment already protects Americans from coercive religious influence, though it has not stopped all such coercion in the past. The Supreme Court did not issue any “put the bible down” rulings until the 1960’s.

  20. M says

    Actually, we already have an amendment addressing this, the first one. It’s establishment clause forbids the government from imposing religious restrictions on it’s services, such as civil marriage. And the part guaranteeing free exercise of religion applies just as much to respecting the rights of churches to perform gay weddings if they so choose as it does to not forcing other churches to perform them if they’d rather not.

  21. shadow_man says

    We need to get the word out to religious communities that anti-gay people are twisting God’s words to condone their hate.

    Homosexuality is not a sin. The Bible is constantly being taken out of context to support anti-gay views. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, Greek temple sex worship, prostitution, pederasty with teen boys, and rape, not homosexuality or two loving consenting adults.

    http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm
    http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html
    http://www.christchapel.com/reclaiming.html
    http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php
    http://www.gaychristian101.com/
    http://www.mccchurch.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Resources&Template=/CM/HTMLDisplay.cfm&ContentID=2121
    http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence.html
    http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian
    http://www.goodhopemcc.org/spirituality/sexuality-and-bible/homosexuality-not-a-sin-not-a-sickness.html

  22. shadow_man says

    This is the perfect example of how anti-gay people change the bible’s words for their anti-gay agenda.

    Corinthians 6:9-11
    Let us examine that very closely.

    Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [malakoi], nor homosexual offenders [arsenokoites], nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    First of all, before we address this line, let us consider one thing. Supposedly taken from a 2000+ year old book, understand that the word “homosexual” was not coined until 1869 by Austrian-born novelist Karl-Maria Kertbeny. So how it happens to be included in a true reading of the particular biblical passage should make you ponder how accurate the interpretation actually is. So man changing the words of the Bible to conveniently spread hate?

    Absolutely.

  23. shadow_man says

    For those of you claiming homosexuality is a “lifestyle”, that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don’t choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.

    http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf
    http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html
    Gay, Straight Men’s Brain Responses Differ
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html
    http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html
    http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/

    There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. “Nurture” may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.

    And it should also be noted that:
    “It is worth noting that many medical and scientific organizations do believe it is impossible to change a person’s sexual orientation and this is displayed in a statement by American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Association of School Administrators, American Federation of Teachers, American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological Association, American School Health Association, Interfaith Alliance Foundation, National Association of School Psychologists, National Association of Social Workers, and National Education Association.”

  24. shadow_man says

    The National Library of Medicine pubs confirm that sexual orientation is natural, biologically induced in the first trimester of pregnancy, morally neutral, immutable, neither contagious nor learned, bearing no relation to an individuals ability to form deep and lasting relationships, to parent children, to work or to contribute to society.

    From the American Psychological Association: homosexuality is normal; homosexual relationships are normal.

    The American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychological Association and American Psychiatric Association have endorsed civil marriage for same-sex couples because marriage strengthens mental and physical health and longevity of couples, and provides greater legal and financial security for children, parents and seniors.

    America’s premier child/mental health associations endorse marriage equality.

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