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  1. Houndentenor says

    Frothy Mix has gay friends?

    Then he needs to show up with at least 2 gay friends to confirm that he does indeed have more than one gay friends who think enough of him to show up and appear on tv with him. People need to be called on this line.

  2. Taylor says

    “Then he needs to show up with at least 2 gay friends to confirm that he does indeed have more than one gay friends who think enough of him to show up and appear on tv with him.”

    I’m sure all he would have to do is call Chris Barron, of GoProud and he would immediately have an entire roster of gay friends to choose from.

  3. MrJ says

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he did have a rich, republican, self-hating pair of friends who didn’t mind being condescended to as long as the get to be friends with actual straight people and keep their tax breaks. I know at least one wealthy gay ass kissing couple who watch Fox News and foam at the mouth over Obama and run mainly in straight conservative circles. They make me sick because it’s only about the money and prestige for them.

  4. Nick says

    Frothy:
    The wide stance ex-senator and the fundamentalist Indiana rep don’t count! Soon you will be telling us all you have our show tunes on your CD player and your favorite sing along song is YMCA.

  5. Bart says

    Most people in America have friends and family who are dumbasses. We love them and wish them well, but we don’t want them to be President of our country because it would change the definition of intelligence in this country and people would think it’s okay to be a regressive idiot. So Rick, I can tell you that being a dumbass of epic proportion, most of America doesn’t want you to be President either.

    So good luck. They kicked you out of office in your home state, maybe you should try to find a job that doesn’t suck off of the public tit.

  6. Sarina says

    I never found Megyn Kelly to be homophobic. She’s more of a girl scout, who’s too naive to understand that not every rule is right. Though I wonder why didn’t she ask the same to Tony Perkins, when he was a guest.

  7. Shelly says

    As much as I loathe this “defense” of the indefensible, I do have two very dear friends, close as family, that I’ve known for the last thirty years who tow the party-line on glbtq issues. They’re brother and sister, immigrants from Czechoslovakia who did honestly suffer terribly from direct abuse under Communism and so are now die-hard GOP reactionaries who swallow all the fear-mongering hook, line and sinker. The brother recently ran for a state representative office in NH and part of his platform was repeal of same-sex marriage. He (thankfully) lost the election, but the thing is, I do know both he and his sister love me, and this isn’t a “core issue” to them — not at all the driving force behind their conservativism — but they just buy the propaganda and truly believe, despite all my arguments and attempts to demonstrate otherwise, that though it’s unfortunate I get “caught in the crossfire” on this issue and suffer for it, all society really will crumble if same-sex marriage is legalized. The sister is blind, and her analogy is usually, “I really want to drive, but it would be chaos if somebody decided blind people should have a ‘right’ to drive! You have to live with the cards you’re dealt sometimes for the greater good!”

    I an NOT a self-loathing Republican more concerned with my pocketbook than equality. But these two ARE my friends, and our love for one another is not at all in question. We just see the world through eyes so different from each other we will never, ever persuade one another to change our views, because in both cases we feel adamantly that our very survival is at stake in our politics. It’s a very difficult situation, but it is one I am thankful for because it does enable me to see that the other side of this debate are not necessarily hateful monsters out to destroy us.

    I often remark of this woman “the Cold War will never end for her.” But in all honesty, the paranoia and demonization on both sides of this issue remind me of nothing so much as the Cold War itself. And if I knew how to “tear this wall down” so we could begin a more productive dialog on how to solve this impasse, God knows I’d have done so sometime in the last thirty years.

    But I guess I just mostly wanted to say that it is entirely possible he has gay friends, and if so, I don’t think they should be disparaged as Uncle Toms. Life is hardly ever black and white.

  8. MrJ says

    HAHAHAHAHAHA @SHELLY. You almost had me there for a minute, I totally thought you were serious, I mean its like Ayn Rand f*cked Ronald Reagan and their baby wrote your comment.

  9. Sindy says

    Oh, just like I know lots of folks in Alabama who didn’t hate their “Negro” maids during the late 50s and early 60s – they just disagreed with them about Jim Crow laws. Thanks for bringing it all into focus, Rick!

  10. says

    Shelly,

    There are many reasons someone is not allowed to drive, blind, prone to seizures, etc. The bottom line is they are not allowed to drive because they are incapable of driving. Marriage is about love. Gay people are capable of love.

    Most people have no problem with being able to love mentally handicapped people because we understand they aren’t ignorant, they are simply incapable of intelligent thought. But simply being ignorant is inexcusable. And also a sin according to the Bible.

    Most people with a college degree hang with other people with a college degree (some exceptions) but mostly people hang with and are friends with others who are like minded.

    I am a democrat with republican friends, but I don’t usually have friends who are simply ill informed and spew ignorant ideas and beliefs. I certainly do not have any friends who see me less than themselves or others.

  11. Robert in NYC says

    He probably has a few GOProuder’s as friends, the ones who support and vote for their representatives who mostly vote against marriage equality, repeal of DOMA and DADT. Chris Barron opposed repeal of DADT as late as February 2011. Ron Paul, their darling, now supports DOMA.

    Why does this moron think that saying he has gay friends gives him a free pass? It means nothing. Is he that dumb to think we don’t see through it? A bigot is a bigot is a bigot.

  12. says

    Sorry, Shelly, whatever “direct abuse under Communism” your “friends” suffered from doesn’t justify or rationalize depriving a class of people equality under the law and under the US Constitution. Repealing marriage equality after it has been passed by an elected legislature and after couples have begun marrying is un-American, pure bigotry, and an illustration that they’ve learned nothing from their “abuse.” Why would you want to be friends with someone who thinks you don’t deserve the same rights they have in your country?

    There aren’t 2 sides of this issue. There is 1. There is no rational reason to exclude gay couples, good tax paying American citizens, from full marriage equality under the law. Wanting to repeal equality makes them no different than Mr. Frothy Mix. People like that aren’t really our friends.

  13. kodiak says

    rudy giuliani had gay freinds too. he lived in their apt after he split with his wife. when marriage equality passed in nyc, he refused to officiate at their ceremony, as promised. rudy has gay friends.

  14. jones says

    Shelley: “the paranoia and demonization on both sides of this issue”.

    False equivalency BS.

    Just a few examples: Gay people are being fired, murdered, disowned by family. Gay families are being split up, denied insurance, prevented from having hospital visitation.

    Anti-gay bigots are “suffering” that their bigotry is becoming less socially and legally acceptable.

    There is no “both sides” blame.

  15. Mike says

    FAIL! I’m sick of this crap. Gay isn’t a choice, why doesn’t someone ask the idiots who spew this when they choose to be straight? You shouldn’t be allowed to “debate” lies, which is what the media (both mainstream and wingnut) is enabling. You don’t see “debates” about racial prejudice? Regarding friends, how can anyone seriously consider someone who doesn’t respect who they are a “friend”? I’m sorry, but anyone who works against my basic fundamental rights is not my friend – and anyone who is willing to sacrifice the rights of an entire minority for a bit of coin is despicable. How fricken selfish and immoral could they be?

  16. kodiak says

    thing is, how deep a friendship can it be when it basically comes down to the str8 person feeling the gay person is beneath them, less than them, are sinners in the eyes of whatever god, are after their children, and whose “gay agenda” includes the downfall of the usa? Would you want to be friends with someone who tows a party line like that? talk about the devil, sheesh.

  17. Robert in NYC says

    Ernie, the Log Cabiners actually believe that they can change the GOP from within as do the more radical GOProuders. I’ve not seen much progress on that one over the past 10 years. A lot of them suck up to these right wing scumbags because they clamor for acceptance by their masters who subjugate them. Pretty sick if you ask me. They’re quick to bash Obama and the democrats, but really, what do any of the republican candidates plan on doing for equality if they get the White House in 2012? Which piece of equality legislation are they going to introduce? ENDA? Repeal of DOMA? NOT going to happen. The fattening of their portfolios is far more important than our equality, first and foremost. They’d sell us out for a dollar as they’ve done, repeatedly and will continue to do so.

  18. Dastius Krazitauc says

    Bravo, Sindy! And Shelly, do your Czech friends who are against equal rights demean gay people the same way Rick Santorum does? That is what made Santorum so famously anti-gay. Most Republican politicians are against equal rights, but Santorum made his nasty rhetoric especially offensive. If they do, I can’t imagine how you could be friends with them.

  19. just_a_guy says

    I’m with Sindy and Jones

    He may have gay “friends” but he considers them inferior subhumans.

    And he wants the law to reflect his judgment of them as inferior beings.

    Simple as that.

  20. says

    I can’t even imagine what morally corrupt, self hating gay person would have annnnnyttttthinnnnnngggg to do with either of these two vile people? How low would you have to be to call either of these people ‘friends’?

  21. Shelly says

    No, as I said, glbtq issues are NOT at all their driving force as far as politics come up, and the campaign in question barely mentioned them at all except for a single written line in a position statement about “respecting the sanctity of traditional families” and a single one word answer on a platform questionaire asking if the candidates support repeal of same-sex marriage laws, and he typed in “yes.” He is nowhere near Santorum, who I do truly feel is repugnant.

    My feeling on the matter is similar to the poster above saying we all have dumbasses we know and love but we don’t want them to become president. In this case, these “dumbasses” are really friends of mine, and we have been at utter loggerheads on politics in general since we met, but I do understand how she came to see the world the way she did, and I also know there’s more to life than politics. That does not mean these issues aren’t vital, that we don’t need to fight as smart and as well as we can for full equality. We do. But I don’t think making blanket statements intended to dehumanize our opponents as monsters is doing either side any good in advancing their cause — it only plays in to the other side’s feelings of marginalization and paranoia that is exploited by the Santorums of the world to keep and maintain power.

    I just see people like my friends as people whose anxieties are being manipulated by a cynical political machine, not as “haters” and “bigots,” cuz they’re honestly not. And I think recognizing that there are people on the other side who sign onto these views as a result of this kind of manipulation but who are not truly hateful people is just intellectual honesty. And we’d probably have an easier time winning hearts and minds to our side if we could find a way to tone down the anxiety across the board.

  22. Shelly says

    Also, to make it clear, I am NOT saying the opposition’s sense of persecution is at all equivalent to what we endure. All I am saying is that branding an entire group of people as “hateful bigots” is a poor way to persuade people whose anxieties are already being leveraged, especially when those doing the leverage are using the fact we paint with the same broad brush they do against us. “See?! THEY’re the real bigots!” seems it would be much more productive to leave name calling out of it and try and understand the dynamics at work so we can figure out a better strategy to counter it.

  23. says

    p.s. Megan Kelly’s “gay friends” are GOP-styled gays – they’re friends over their mutual dislike and distrust of black people.

    for real.

    sure, megan has gay friends. and they’re as racist as she is.

  24. Dastius Krazitauc says

    So, Shelly, you’re saying that while people like Santorum equate gay people to pedophiles and beastialists, we, the targets of his hate speech and policies, should remain perfectly noble and dispassionate, and then he would learn to treat us with “respect”? That is not going to happen.

  25. too boot says

    @Shelly: Your “friend” is not only blind because she is without sight but also vision. With friends like them, who needs enemies? Wow, your apologistic rationale is pathetic.

  26. Michael Singh says

    Can towleroad please get over posting shite from Fox?

    Can towleroad please stop posting articles about a former senator who will not win a presidential nomination?

    Can towleroad please start posting real political news?

    Maybe from other sources like http://www.politifact.com/ which won a pulitizer prize.

    You want marriage equality? I am sure there are very good organisations who are working towards this. Why don’t you let people know about these & what they can do.

  27. Boone says

    Santorum doesn’t have any gay friends, and neither does Megan Kelly. You cannot “vehemently disagree” with who a person is, call their biological orientation a “decision” and then also call them a friend. The decision is NOT whether to be gay or straight, but rather to live an honest life or die a slow, torturous death.

  28. jamal49 says

    @Shelly um, don’t use the term “Uncle Toms” when describing gay men who love the straight men who hate them. I’d prefer you use the term “Auntie Ems” or something like that. Calling someone an “Uncle Tom” just doesn’t quite fit here. Oh, and one more thing. Your friends may have “suffered” under communism but that does NOT excuse their inability to grasp that this is a human rights issue. They need therapy for their so-called “conservative” views. They obviously are mimicking their former oppressors by being able to oppress someone else. Sorry, hon. They need help. Or at least Jesus.

  29. shane says

    Shelly, I see where you’re coming from, especially in your second post. That said, for my own good, I decided to slowly dissolve a twenty-year friendship last year. If for no other reason than I no longer wanted her to be able to say “I have a gay friend” when discussing her socially conservative, Catholic, Republican views with her crowd. That was my intellectual honesty. I could easily have still managed another two decades of friendship; in fact, I sort of miss her. But in this particular lifetime, I will not subjugate a portion, even a tiny fraction, of my whole self. Friendships make us stronger, deeper, more encompassing and compassionate beings; not the other way around, and not only unilaterally, Shelly.

  30. shle896 says

    “that choice”.. remark cracks me up. He thinks we “choose” our sexuality? When did he make the choice to be heterosexual? Once again, another Republican showing their disgusting hate towards our community.. and Fox News lets them do it completely unchallenged as usual.

  31. anon says

    Many gay men have conservative parents, so it’s not really a question of whether gay men should be allowed to have conservative friends. The issue here is how to expose RS as coming from a place of unsettled antipathy rather than sound public policy. You need to attack the relevance of his attachment to the bible rather than his personal quirks. Judge Walker’s Prop 8 decision is a good place to start. Also, the term “friend” among politicians means “someone who answers my phone calls”.

  32. Shelly says

    Thank you for understanding, Shane. I was not anticipating the degree of aggression my post would generate, but I guess I should have. And I do understand where you are coming from, but neither has ever used me as their token “gay friend” that I’m at all aware of, and they’re both atheists so that whole aspect doesn’t even come into it. In fact, though we’ve clashed over politics in general, glbtq issues as such never came up in debate before this whole election so though I should have guessed if St. Rush said it they’re buying it, their wholehearted support of me all through coming out and various relationships and whatnot it really didn’t cross my mind before I saw the campaign website. I didn’t at all suspect they bought into all that, but apparently they do. And believe me, it HAS been a struggle since learning that, but at the end of the day, they’re like family to me, and I do see them as whole, complex people who are MORE than political opposition, and life means more to me than ideology.

    To the poster who suggests they need professional help, I couldn’t agree with you more! But they adamantly refuse to see that their anxiety has led to an irrational extremist political ideology, and frankly, on the scale of how psychological issues are impacting their lives, being dittoheads really is the least of it. And as pretty much anybody whose dealt with the frustration of knowing someone you love needs psychiatric help but refuses to get it will tell you, you can only do your best to get them to see that, but in the end, it’s up to them.

  33. walter says

    the only gay friends this asshat has is chris barron and his fellow self hating goproud members. they would accept friendship from any rpuk that would have them. and santorum needs a friend so they are made for each other. hasn’t he run out of money yet so he can become an alsoran on the election.

  34. Kevin_BGFH says

    Santorum is trying to suggest that he simply opposes same-sex marriage, the anti-gay position that resonates closest with voters. But that’s a lie. He’s publicly advocated for sodomy laws — laws that were going out of vogue 35 years ago. If he had his way, gay men would be imprisoned for having consensual sex in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

  35. StillmarriedinCA says

    @Shelly–life is too short. I don’t need any “friends” who see me as 3/4s of a person. There are so many wonderful people out there who will love and respect you for who you are. Why waste a minute on these bigots? Every hour you spend with them could be better spent meeting new friends or enjoying the ones you have who don’t see you as inferior.
    He wants to “repeal” marriage equality laws? I assume, then, that he would be all for dissolving my perfectly legal marriage of 3 years. Do you not see how utterly cruel and inhumane that is?? We are often judged by the company we keep. If you have been friends with these willingly ignorant individuals for any length of time and they still haven’t evolved on this subject from knowing you….they are NOT your friends. Perhaps they will see the light if you stop seeing them and tell them why. Give them the opportunity to see what a dull life they will have without you in it. Let them ponder if holding on to such hateful ideals is worth losing a dear friend like you. You owe it to them and yourself. It is only when certain people begin to see how they are being left behind that they finally get it. We are heading that way in this country, at last. The haters are painting themselves in a corner and are getting lonelier by the minute.

  36. Shannon says

    WHY DO GAY WHITE MEN …….WHEN THEY ARE THE OBJECT OF HATRED…ALWAYS LIKE TO “AKIN” THEMSELVES TO EVERYONE ELSE AND ANYONE ELSE?????? THIS WHY PEOPLE ARE TURNING FROM US….YOU ARE THE MOST “IST” GROUPS AROUND BUT CANNOT TAKE WHEN YOU ARE THE OBJECT OF FIRE…..

  37. Codswallop says

    Oh, how I’d LOVE it if an interviewer asked, “Can other people see them or just you?”

    There goes Elwood P Santorum talking to his invisible pink friends again!

  38. Ken says

    It’s interesting that in his quote he used the correct term “sexual orientation” instead of the preferred right wing term “sexual preference”. Don’t know what it means, but I find it interesting since many of our allies seem to still have trouble with that.

  39. Fair Question says

    Define “friend.” Acquaintances are not friends. A friend is someone you are intimate with, on some level, and usually physically too.

    If you want to know what you are like just think about what your friends are like. They are mirrors.

    I guess another definition for “santorum” would be “self-deluded” or “self-serving.”

  40. uffda says

    Shelly@ unfortunately a great many gay men do see things as black or white. Thus you are not talking to a sympathetic, or even a largely reasonable, audience here. As one commentator said recently, talking to “The Gays is like talking to Scientologists”. You are proposing a high road that many here will not see or know how to acknowledge. I read this blog to be amused by hysteria, hyperbole, and a good deal of snarky wit. You should too.

  41. says

    gay republicans and black republicans are always republicans for the same hilarious reason – they hate each other.

    you show me a non-racist gay republican and a non-homophobic black republican and i’ll show you a unicorn.

  42. Josh says

    Megyn Kelly has played to homophobes before. She said when Scalia said that gay sex should be viewed as bad as murder that his comment was NOT an attack on the gay community.

    She said that the new hate crimes bill that added gays to it, gave rights and protections to pedophiles.

    She equated gays to pedophiles and she has gay friends!?

    She said that judges giving rights to gays were creating rights out of whole clothe.

    She defended Carrie Prejean.

    She has also had several racist segments on her show. For months she ran a segment on an isolated incident where two men in a particular town were claiming to be members of the Black Panthers and she breathlessly represented it as a national movement.

    She gets a pass from her hateful bigotry just because she is pretty. It is disgusting.

  43. Matt says

    To all of you saying that Rick Santorum doesn’t have any gay friends, I have to say that is an unfair characterization.

    Rick Santorum has lots of close gay friends. It’s just that most of them happen to be rent boys.

  44. Harry says

    No self respecting gay would be friends w/ this homophobic, hate monger of a bigot. If I saw him in person, I would spit in his face. He is a disgrace to his and my state.

  45. Fenrox says

    He could have gay friends. I for one do not ask anything of my friends, I will take them as they are. When and if they turn into raging assholes I will hang out with them accordingly. If they ask for help I will give it, if they spiral out of control and never ask for help I will not give it.

    All I ask is that my friends treat me the same. Maybe Rick’s gay friends are like this instead of GOProud jerks, but maybe not.

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