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Is Fire Island Pines Properties and Pavilion for Sale Again?

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An unconfirmed report sprang up online late last week that Fire Islands Properties, which was destroyed by fire last November, is for sale for $22 million. Writes the blogger with the report, MarkatLarge, who wrote:

PavilionThe sale of the Pines’ largest commercial property is fueled by the lack of progress being made on rebuilding the Pavilion; as of today it remains a plot of sand. An inside source tells me there have been discussions of holding High Tea, the popular early evening party, around the hotel pool area. The pool area with its one small bar will be a tight fit for close to 1,000 thirsty boys who gather for pre-dinner cocktails and dancing.

Photos above and right, of what the property looks like today.

Asked for a comment from the Village Voice's Michael Musto, co-owner Andrew Kirtzman said he had no comment: "I don't have anything for you, unfortunately, but wanted to get back to you. I hope to speak with you soon."

Kirtzman released a passionate letter about the owners' dedication to the properties following the fire.

In related news, the design for the building next door which also burned and which housed the Sip n Twirl bar, was shared over the weekend by Fire Island Pines realtor Bob Howard, on Facebook. According to Howard the foundation and girders are complete.


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  1. Time marches on.

    Posted by: Rance | Mar 12, 2012 12:05:40 PM

  2. That is one butt-ugly building!

    Posted by: RWG | Mar 12, 2012 12:16:33 PM

  3. come on, ya old phoenix :D time to rise again.

    i have a feeling it'll be lovely. cheers to many more happy memories.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Mar 12, 2012 12:17:26 PM

  4. I have no idea why I should care about this.

    Posted by: joe | Mar 12, 2012 12:20:27 PM


    i'd been reading about F.I. since I was in my late teens - Ethan Mordden, Edmund White, Andrew Holloran.

    Mainly Ethan Mordden ;-)

    gotta say, it was a profoundly emotional experience visiting fire island for the first time. some places just resonate with our collective history - the stories and hopes and lives of so many brothers and sisters who came before. walking through the mist....positively unreal.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Mar 12, 2012 12:34:12 PM

  6. I work for one of the architects of the new Pavilion. There is no plan to sell and we are finalizing the new plans and they are f*cking AWEOME. Construction will start soon.

    Posted by: Mark H | Mar 12, 2012 1:02:06 PM

  7. @ MARK H - any timeline? plan to be open by july 4th?

    Posted by: me | Mar 12, 2012 1:56:42 PM

  8. Its true but for $21 Million. Diller Scofidio + Renfro were never hired. Seth & Andrew have made a mess of the operation causing millions of losses since they took over. Blesso has now taken over and Albert Price is in charge. The 39 investors are pissed. Next.....

    Posted by: CHris | Mar 12, 2012 1:58:00 PM

  9. Shame on the LGBT community if this property sells for $22 million and we can't raise at least that much for the ballot battles in Maine, Washington, Minnesota, North Carolina, Maryland and wherever else it might show up. Let alone the various legal challenges to Prop 8, DOMA, Kill the Gays bills, etc etc.

    Posted by: john | Mar 12, 2012 2:11:37 PM

  10. New building will be open by April of 2013. It is a joint design by DS+R and HWKN who just won the MoMa PS 1 award.

    Posted by: Mark H | Mar 12, 2012 5:25:32 PM

  11. John,

    We raised about $30 million for Prop 8 alone, not including money raised for the legal defense.

    Moreover, the fantastic "8" reading in LA that was aired on youtube raised over $2 million alone, and I believe goes toward the organization in that's funding the legal defense.

    I totally agree we aren't raising the kind of money we should for the most important causes of our time, but our don't think for a second that glbt people across the country aren't raising many millions of dollars a year in defense of our legal rights.

    I imagine we're better at funding our legal rights than we are at funding for aid for glbt seniors who are often forced back into the closet to get basic care, HIV treatment for the indigent and working poor, and homeless shelters for GLBT youth.

    Posted by: Ryan | Mar 12, 2012 5:25:43 PM

  12. @Joe: Don't worry. I'm sure the majority of Towleroad visitors don't care about Fire Island real estate. Similarly, we don't care that some local news anchor in NYC got fired.

    But, this blog is run by a person and not an organization. An occasional post that only matters to folks in that part of the country isn't too big of a deal.

    Posted by: alex | Mar 12, 2012 6:30:53 PM

  13. First world problem. I could care less.

    Posted by: Trace | Mar 12, 2012 9:53:47 PM

  14. if you could care less then it means you do in fact care.

    thus, if you meant to show disdain or ambivalence you would say "i couldn't care less", as you could NOT care less because you already are devoid of any form of caring.

    thanks for proving that ambivalence goes hand in hand with ignorance.


    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Mar 12, 2012 10:02:39 PM

  15. People who use the pretentious meme "first-world problem" are trivializing the real problems of the second, third and fourth worlds.

    Posted by: Jeff NYC | Mar 12, 2012 11:57:41 PM

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