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Towleroad Guide to the Tube #1104

ELEGIA: New Order's never-before-released full 18-minute 1985 track, which appeared on the Low-Life LP in five-minute form.

BEYOND THE GAY WHITE MALE: No More Down Low visits the Queer People of Color conference at California State University Northridge.

NHL PLAYOFF BEARDS: The best in history.

COMING OUT: Parenting and a kid's decision to come out about his gay dad.

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  1. dfsdf

    Posted by: Test comments | Apr 13, 2012 6:06:15 PM


  2. Thanks so much for the New Order find. Love it!

    Posted by: Martin Johns | Apr 13, 2012 6:43:33 PM


  3. That's a great New Order track. It was on the bonus disk that came with the 2002 box set Retro, so it's not actually never released though.

    Posted by: Ryan | Apr 13, 2012 7:48:14 PM


  4. I've always loved the 4:56 Elegia track, so this is really special for me. I've heard there was a longer version of the recording for quite some time though, but have never heard it. If I'm not mistaken, Elegia was written in honor of Ian Curtis.

    Also, do yourself a favor and listen to 'Ecstasy' sometime!

    Posted by: Johnson | Apr 13, 2012 8:53:42 PM


  5. As others, I love Elegia. Thank you.

    Posted by: Paul R | Apr 13, 2012 9:28:18 PM


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    Posted by: Jim | Apr 14, 2012 12:17:03 AM


  7. I've had the 17:34 version of "Elegia" since 1985, so it's hardly "unreleased". In fact, I just listened to the long version right now. Pffft.

    Posted by: Reybee | Apr 14, 2012 3:25:03 AM


  8. elegia!!!! Pretty in Pink, anyone? :D

    and kudos to Queer People of Color! it's amazing how much ethnicity/culture comes into play when it comes to identification and empathy in this world.

    from all the insane people who freaked the heck out because a black man whose middle name is Hussein became the President of their "white country", to the appalling twitter-brats who were angry that....The Hunger Games' black characters were portrayed as black people in the film version (?!) because, you know, it's harder to cry for someone who dies if they're not white...or something. to trayvon and the fox news commenters unleashing their "South with Rise Again" bigotry in full force.....how many feel about people of different ethnicities and cultures is still very-much tainted by the prejudices of decades past.

    funny - there are those miserable-gays who complain about "how gays are represented in the media"....and yet, for most of the 2000's, two actors portrayed openly-gay characters in a non-stereotypical, non-flashy, and indeed refreshing way.
    Mathew St. Patrick on Six Feet Under, and BD Wong on OZ and Law&order:SVU.
    now....how come those performances, on those top-rated shows, are/were consistently forgotten by the "there are no realistic gay men on TV!" whiners? Simple, actually. Because one was black and the other Chinese. If there's one thing i've learned from life, adn these boards, it's that for many people they cant' relate or empathize with anyone or anything that's a different hue than themselves.
    shame.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Apr 14, 2012 12:29:50 PM


  9. Low-Life is defintely in my top 10.

    Posted by: Wonderer | Apr 14, 2012 1:49:48 PM


  10. "...for most of the 2000's, two actors portrayed openly-gay characters in a non-stereotypical, non-flashy, and indeed refreshing way.
    Mathew St. Patrick on Six Feet Under, and BD Wong on OZ and Law&order:SVU.
    now....how come those performances, on those top-rated shows, are/were consistently forgotten by the "there are no realistic gay men on TV!" whiners?"

    Because, Little Kiwi, as far as I know (and correct me if I'm wrong), Father Ray on Oz wasn't even portrayed as being gay, was he? I watched a lot of episodes, and I don't recall that ever being mentioned.

    And as for Dr. George Huang, was he not only a minor character but also one who spent 8 years (most of his time on the show) without it ever even being mentioned that he was gay, and even then had if dragged out of him on an episode that connected homosexuality with child molestation? (Oh yes, and there was that molestation charge on Oz as well.)

    You and I must have very different ideas of what it means to be a "refreshing" "openly" gay character. How "open" is a character's homosexuality when it is not even mentioned until episode #229 (SVU) or if it is never mentioned and seems to have come from your imagination (if I'm mistaken about that, let me know in which episodes of Oz, the priest was portrayed as gay in a refreshing and open way, because I missed them and want to watch then on Netflix.)

    As for Six Feet Under, that was a great show and the refreshing character portrayed by Michael St. Patrick was often referred to in the gay
    press with praise. The show was on HBO though, and such a character rarely (arguably never) makes it onto the broadcast networks.

    Realistic gay characters are VERY MUCH under-represented on TV and especially on the main broadcast networks. It doesn't take a "whiny complainer" (nor someone with any kind of racist sentiment) to notice this fact.

    Posted by: Gregv | Apr 14, 2012 7:49:10 PM


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