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House Committee Approves Anti-Gay Defense Amendment

Military-ChaplainWhile President Obama and other lawmakers may support gay marriage and civil rights, let us not forget that there are still forces in the government eager to limit rights for same-sex couples.

Take, for example, a House committee's decision to back a defense budget amendment banning gay marriage ceremonies from military land.


Conservative Republicans still angry with the end to the "don't ask, don't tell" policy on gays in the military pressed two measures.

"The president has repealed 'don't ask, don't tell' and is using the military as props to promote his gay agenda," said Rep. Todd Akin, R-Mo., who is running for Senate.

The committee, on a vote of 37-24, backed an amendment that barred same-sex marriages or "marriage-like" ceremonies on military installations. The panel also endorsed an Akin amendment that said the services should accommodate the rights of conscience of members of the services and chaplains who are morally or religiously opposed to expressions of human sexuality.

That's strange: "opposed to expressions of human sexuality." Are heterosexual couples asexual? I thought sexuality, and the babies it can produce, was a key component of conservative arguments against gay marriage. I guess I was confused.

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  1. Translation: Married folk have 'Godly' sexuality, blessed via Holy Matrimony...gays and single str8's have merely human sexuality, therefore sinful and dirty.

    Posted by: Gus | May 10, 2012 8:24:52 AM


  2. Lacking a reasoned argument, and lacking a winning argument, they retreat into pure spite...

    Posted by: Chris | May 10, 2012 8:30:10 AM


  3. So much for the vaunted discipline and unit cohesion they always went on and on about

    Posted by: Steve | May 10, 2012 9:02:10 AM


  4. Wow, how petty can these people get! I suppose they all see the writing on the wall, and are in panic mode...They take it as a birthright to have some group or other to look down upon and treat as less-thans...Gays being treated equally takes one of those groups off the table. So they will do everything in their power to try and keep that from happening. I just don't see how such a law would stand, if gays serve in the Military, how can they be prevented from facilitating themselves of same institutions that their straight counterparts are allowed to enjoy? These people truly are vile!

    Posted by: Pedro | May 10, 2012 9:12:20 AM


  5. One more sign that we live in a right of center democracy and that by tying the president and the democrats to the idea of marriage equality may give the republicans the White House, Senate and House in november.

    Posted by: andrew | May 10, 2012 9:28:50 AM


  6. Or, more likely, Andrew, a sign that right-wing Republicans (i.e. mainstream Republicans in 2012) are last-gasp dinosaurs desperately trying to stop the obvious historical trajectory, which points in favor of lgbt and marriage equality. But, hey, some people just get off on seeing things in the most miserable light possible.

    Posted by: Ernie | May 10, 2012 9:44:49 AM


  7. That statement is perfect:

    "services should accommodate the rights of conscience of members of the services and chaplains who are morally or religiously opposed to expressions of human sexuality."

    They are anti-sex period. Sad Sad people. So maybe they want all of us in Burkas.


    Posted by: Joey | May 10, 2012 10:01:22 AM


  8. An expression of human sexuality? One of them would be children. How did they think children were born?
    Idjiots.

    Posted by: unruly | May 10, 2012 10:06:55 AM


  9. @Ernie: I hope that you were not suggesting that I get off on seeing things in the most miserable light possible. I voted for Obama in 2008 and intend to vote for him in 2012. Its just that I am old enough to remember the fine liberal democrats like: Humphrey, McGovern, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry who the republicans convinced America voters that they were too far left. I fear that this gay marriage issue makes it even easier to paint Obama with the same brush.

    Posted by: andrew | May 10, 2012 10:17:49 AM


  10. Even in the military the first measure is a 1st Amendment violation, the second measure is too vague, and both measures blatently contradict each other.

    How the hell do you reconcile these two measures? "We affirm the religious liberties of one set of chaplains and servicemembers while banning the religious practices of another set of chaplains and servicemembers..." Do they just not care what that sounds like?

    Posted by: Steven | May 10, 2012 11:08:06 AM


  11. How could they ban clergy from performing same-sex marriages in states where such marriages are legal? This would be stomping all over both religious and state rights.

    Posted by: bobbyjoe | May 10, 2012 12:45:02 PM


  12. Andrew....I'm old enough to remember those past Democrats also. I wouldn't put Obama in with them though, he is not liberal. He sits in the center and sometimes swings a little to the left or right. With about 50% of those responding to polls on the subject saying they are also ok with marriage equality or civil unions, Obama's position is becoming more mainstream. I still remember bristling at Kerry's milquetoast answers during debates with G Bush. Obama seems to be growing bigger balls.

    Posted by: stevenj | May 10, 2012 2:50:05 PM


  13. @StevenJ: It is not so much whether Obama is more of a centrist than some of those other fine men. It is how effective will the republicans be in painting him as a leftist. I think they will use his support of gay marriage to convince people, especially in swing states, to try to defeat him. Obama is raising a lot of campaigh money and that will help him counter attack in the media ads campaign. However, the republicans will have tens of millions of $ in conservative pacs funded by the billionaire Koch brothers and other right wing billionaires of their ilk to try to convince America that Obama is not one of "us". You and I are on the same side, I am just a little more of the glass is half empty kind of guy,

    Posted by: andrew | May 10, 2012 6:21:17 PM


  14. Well played conservatives. Well played.


    Its all just turning into a kids game.

    Posted by: JP | May 10, 2012 6:35:40 PM


  15. You have to be pretty liberal with the term "conservative" to consider these republicans conservative.

    Posted by: Garst | May 10, 2012 10:21:04 PM


  16. Congress banning religious ceremonies?

    Out of "respect" for religion...

    Utterly in-your-face unconstitutional.

    Posted by: BobN | May 10, 2012 11:51:22 PM


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