I thought the bit was charming. Certainly more “slice of life” than anything that could be construed as negative. I found it rather affirming.
Posted by: ichabod | May 18, 2012 2:17:19 PM
Jimmy Kimmel is not remotely homophobic, fer goodness' sake! He is totally our friend. Can you just imagine the mouthful that reporter would have got if NULLNAUGHT had come wandering down the street? That was good clean fun & in no way demeaned or marginalized us. Btw, wasn't there some rabidly anti-heterosexual poster on Towleroad a couple of months back called H8STR8S? That you, NULLNAUGHT?
Posted by: Leroy Laflamme | May 18, 2012 2:19:22 PM
@NullNaught:
So you're basing your perception of people based on internet interactions? That sounds...well, that sounds straight up foreboding.
Also, you say that you can't forgive them for what they've done. What have they all done? That's a huge blanket statement (96% of the world). Get help.
Posted by: Bambam | May 18, 2012 2:24:38 PM
Meh. Not insulting, but not too terribly ground breaking either- I was really hoping for a big burly bear or lipstick lesbian to really throw off the audience's expectations on homosexuality.
Posted by: Griff | May 18, 2012 2:25:00 PM
@Leroy Laflamme
I have announce my change of handle several times. An earlier comment on this thread by me states "I may not H8STR8S anymore..." I don't know how I could have made it more obivous that I used to be H8STR8S. I mean no deception. I have changed; I no longer hate them all - I just don't like them. I am actually proud of this progress. I was ready to change.
Yes, I have thought about what I would do if they had asked me. I have no doubt I would be in jail right now for agravated assualt; or if I was holding something heavy or sharp, assault with a deadly weapon.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 18, 2012 2:27:53 PM
Jimmy Kimmel funny as usual. Good video. I like it when Towleroad posts funny and positive videos.
Posted by: andrew | May 18, 2012 2:28:54 PM
@bambam
The abuse I have suffered at the hands of str8s has put me in psychotherapy for almost 20 years. I am on a $hit load of med.s. I am seeking help.
Not every single str8 person in the world has done something bad to me; every single str8 that I have encountered has, however. We have doubtless had different experiences with str8s. You no doubt are very young and have no idea what homophobia really is because you never had a chance to live through it. All the experience I have had of str8s was in the bad old days. I have been a recluse since I retired when I was very young. I see on the internet that life has changed somewhat and so have I. I no longer hate, I just can't ever bring myself to like them.
I am happy you have had such a sunny life. I hope it continues that way.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 18, 2012 2:34:33 PM
Kimmel is not homophobic. In fact he can play very fluid with sexuality. This is, after all, the man who made the video "I'm F*cking Ben Affleck"
Posted by: Stephen | May 18, 2012 3:03:23 PM
@Stephen
Uh... "I'm F*cking Ben Affleck" makes me more certain he is a homophobe, not less. What is funny about two people having sex? Nothing, unless they are doing something wrong. What is wrong? Jimmy Kimmel is masculine. Everybody knows faggots are all swishy limpwristed she-males, right? That is the stereotype isn't it? So that is what is funny - look everybody! That masculine guy is acting like a faggot! Hahaha! Let's all laugh at faggots! Hahaha!
What a creepy fellow he is, as well as being a blatant homophobe. Thank you for supporting my thesis.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 18, 2012 3:22:57 PM
Seems like a generational thing: self esteem issues, etc. I enjoyed it. Playful. Why take it so seriously?
Posted by: Jim | May 18, 2012 3:39:29 PM
This is NOT homophobic to me, not one bit.
If anything it shows that you just never know about others until they choose to tell you, so be respectful.
Posted by: jexer | May 18, 2012 3:46:02 PM
This is funny stuff!
I don't find it a bit homophobic. Comedians make fun of everything and everyone, and they should. Hell, we make fun of ourselves--the ones with a sense of humor, that is.
That fact that people no longer recoil when asked that question says tons about how far we've come.
My favorite answer was the dad with the baby. The fact that he admitted to watching a gay porno makes others who are curious feel there is nothing wrong with their curiosity and it also dispels the notion that curiosity can make you gay.
It's a comedy skit. Lighten up!
Posted by: truthteller | May 18, 2012 5:01:24 PM
It was a funny comedy skit. Jimmy Kimmel is a good comedian and a friend of the gay community. It is sad that some people have been so psychologically wounded that they can't enjoy the humor. The problem is theirs. Not Kimmel's. It is not a generational thing. I'm 73 and thought it was a very funny bit.
Posted by: andrew | May 18, 2012 7:46:16 PM
you guys who have no sense of humor about this remind me of the excruciatingly humorless, terminally politically correct lesbians of the 1970s around whom it was impossible to joke about ANYTHING without getting an ashen-faced lecture about who you *might* be hurting.
your humorless, like theirs, does/did nothing to enable gay people to take a healthy place in society.
Get TF over yourselves and stop thinking everybody should share your humorless hang-ups.
Posted by: Daniel Berry, NYC | May 18, 2012 8:54:32 PM
@Andrew
did you consider what it would be like to be in the closet to your family and out and proud to your friends and have that question asked of you? What do you do? Deny yourself and feel like $hit and be treated that way by your ex-friends? Out yourself to a family who is not ready for it? You can't say "none of your business" because that declares you are gay - straight people just answere the question.
I hate the fat homophobic retarded jackass that is Jimmy Kimmel because he is abusive of his power to invade people's privacy.
I don't like straight people becuase I am psychologically damaged. Being psychologically damaged has nothing to do with why this is abusive. Read my posts more carefully if you are going to obviously refer to them and myself in your posts.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 18, 2012 9:25:36 PM
Nullnaught, I think the answer to the question if you don't want to talk about it on television is "I don't want to be on your show." That is how adults behave. Maybe you think poorly of straight people, but I have seen no evidence of Kimmel or his staff ever being malicious or homophobic. While you may think this was a negative piece I find it extraordinarily positive that a couple of people admitted to experiences quite unashamedly and there was no negative reaction from their friends or the audience.
You admit to being psychologically damaged and in counseling. You say that every single hetero person you have ever met has treated you poorly. Is it possible that you react negatively on an emotional level in a way that most others would not because of this? I ask because calling someone a "fat homophobic retarded jackass" is usually an indication of a visceral response and not a well reasoned one.
Posted by: AladinSane | May 18, 2012 11:16:18 PM
Believe it or not, behind every cameraperson is another person with a stack of papers, and as soon as your camera time is done, that person will take you off to the side and ask you to sign a release form. They can't show your ugly mug on TV unless you sign one. So, if you were asked something that upsets your delicate sensitivity, and you don't want anyone to see you on TV for fear of being outed, simply DON'T SIGN A RELEASE FORM!!!
Posted by: Gideon S. | May 19, 2012 12:20:26 AM
Well, I have got to admit that I was entertained and intrigued. Funny. But...
I'd still sleep with one eye open.
Posted by: Eddie | May 19, 2012 12:33:44 AM
@Gideon S.
I had no idea how these things work. I have never heard of a release form. believe it or not, my life has just never intersected with this particular triviality. So that line of reasoing is off. I still believe it is homophobic because of all the other reasons I have stated here. I was just trying to illustrate how devastating I thought this could be. But people faced with such a question have to analyse whether to come out to this stranger righ here and now. And even if they are not outed nationally, they are outed involuntarily, or they have to lie to this stranger. This stranger has no right putting them on the spot like that, have they? Could not just asking that of somebody be very harmful in itself?
What if you were deciding if you should come out or not because you were very afraid? If they ask the question and you don't immediately laugh and say "no" then you are kind of outed. It is not something anybody has to think about. You know if you have ever had gay sex or not. It is not something you are unsure of, now is it? So if you hesitate, you are outed to this stranger, and the cameraman and the guy with the forms and the strangers standing around listening to you because they are taping. Don't you think all these people would be invading your privacy? You hesitate, and they all of them look at you with that knowing look; we've got a faggot here.
So you decide to hide deeper in the closet. Real pretty.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 19, 2012 1:06:16 AM
@Nullnaught: While you are free to spend your adult life feeling sorry for yourself because of all the nasty things SOME straight people did to you; I would suggest that you stop using the word "retarded" to characterize people with whom you disagree. That is an extremey hurtful phrase to special needs people and those who love them.
Posted by: andrew | May 19, 2012 2:14:52 AM
Nullnaught, if you live your life believing that being gay is something to be hidden and fearful of the reactions of others that is your business. But because YOU haven't heard of a release form and have had negative experiences with every het you have met it does not necessarily follow that everyone else has. You are projecting. You live your life in fear. You may have good reason, I don't know. But everyone else doesn't have to agree to be afraid the way you are.
You didn't seem to be at all concerned that you called Kimmel "retarded" which developmentally disabled adults consider offensive. Pot, meet kettle.
I also find it interesting that you skip my previous post to jump on something you consider "trivial" from Gideon.
But here's the thing: people in the closet spend all day every day deciding when or if to come out. If you agree to be interviewed on air you have already decided which way you will answer. You KNOW that somehow you might be exposed no matter the issue because you are already paranoid.
Posted by: AladinSane | May 19, 2012 2:18:01 AM
BTW Nullnaught, your position logically implies a conclusion which you have not stated. If it is not NOW ok to ask someone if they have had a gay experience when will it? And if never, why?
Posted by: AladinSane | May 19, 2012 2:27:13 AM
Aladinsane
I didn't see the post I failed to respond to. It was an oversight.
I am used to anti-mentally-ill bigotry on this sight, so I am not at all hurt by your insulting insinuation that because I have been traumatized I can't think.
You did not read my posts at all carefully. I am out and proud and have been so for many many years. I don't fear. But I remember what it was like in the closet. You don't want it exposed to anyone; not even some a$$hole on the street with a microphone. That question outs you if you don't reflexively lie. It is hard to reflexively lie when shocked like that and someone in the closet would be very shocked by that. If you read my last post, you will see that I assume the person in the closet doesn't consent to the interview. somebody walks up and asks you a shocking question; you don't reflexively lie; you are outed to these strangers and go deeper in the closet. You never consent to any of it but it is done to you just the same.
When I was in the closet, I wasn't good enough at if for everyone and straight guys would every once in a while ask me that while in argument with me just to humiliate me and make me back down.
Because it will never be completely safe for all gay people to come out, and because it will never be the case that all gay people will be willing to come out, it will never be o.k. to ask such an intimate question of a complete stranger. Never.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 19, 2012 3:04:13 AM
NULLNAUGHT - I am sorry for your pain and very happy to hear that you are on the mend, it takes a long time sometimes and in such case that's what time is for.
Me...I thought the video was fun - not awkward or embarrassing as I had feared - and the last response was the best. "Does gay porn count?" - only if you liked it. I think he did.
Posted by: UFFDA | May 19, 2012 6:55:47 AM
I don't find it homophobic in the least. The underlying issue is that same gender desire is common among a random sampling of people on the street- and it's fun to show it. Even among two pairs of friends who weren't up front about it beforehand and clearly found it racy and fun to divulge in this setting.
Comments to the contrary sound a little shrill to me.
I thought the bit was charming. Certainly more “slice of life” than anything that could be construed as negative. I found it rather affirming.
Posted by: ichabod | May 18, 2012 2:17:19 PM
Jimmy Kimmel is not remotely homophobic, fer goodness' sake! He is totally our friend. Can you just imagine the mouthful that reporter would have got if NULLNAUGHT had come wandering down the street? That was good clean fun & in no way demeaned or marginalized us. Btw, wasn't there some rabidly anti-heterosexual poster on Towleroad a couple of months back called H8STR8S? That you, NULLNAUGHT?
Posted by: Leroy Laflamme | May 18, 2012 2:19:22 PM
@NullNaught:
So you're basing your perception of people based on internet interactions? That sounds...well, that sounds straight up foreboding.
Also, you say that you can't forgive them for what they've done. What have they all done? That's a huge blanket statement (96% of the world). Get help.
Posted by: Bambam | May 18, 2012 2:24:38 PM
Meh. Not insulting, but not too terribly ground breaking either- I was really hoping for a big burly bear or lipstick lesbian to really throw off the audience's expectations on homosexuality.
Posted by: Griff | May 18, 2012 2:25:00 PM
@Leroy Laflamme
I have announce my change of handle several times. An earlier comment on this thread by me states "I may not H8STR8S anymore..." I don't know how I could have made it more obivous that I used to be H8STR8S. I mean no deception. I have changed; I no longer hate them all - I just don't like them. I am actually proud of this progress. I was ready to change.
Yes, I have thought about what I would do if they had asked me. I have no doubt I would be in jail right now for agravated assualt; or if I was holding something heavy or sharp, assault with a deadly weapon.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 18, 2012 2:27:53 PM
Jimmy Kimmel funny as usual. Good video. I like it when Towleroad posts funny and positive videos.
Posted by: andrew | May 18, 2012 2:28:54 PM
@bambam
The abuse I have suffered at the hands of str8s has put me in psychotherapy for almost 20 years. I am on a $hit load of med.s. I am seeking help.
Not every single str8 person in the world has done something bad to me; every single str8 that I have encountered has, however. We have doubtless had different experiences with str8s. You no doubt are very young and have no idea what homophobia really is because you never had a chance to live through it. All the experience I have had of str8s was in the bad old days. I have been a recluse since I retired when I was very young. I see on the internet that life has changed somewhat and so have I. I no longer hate, I just can't ever bring myself to like them.
I am happy you have had such a sunny life. I hope it continues that way.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 18, 2012 2:34:33 PM
Kimmel is not homophobic. In fact he can play very fluid with sexuality. This is, after all, the man who made the video "I'm F*cking Ben Affleck"
Posted by: Stephen | May 18, 2012 3:03:23 PM
@Stephen
Uh... "I'm F*cking Ben Affleck" makes me more certain he is a homophobe, not less. What is funny about two people having sex? Nothing, unless they are doing something wrong. What is wrong? Jimmy Kimmel is masculine. Everybody knows faggots are all swishy limpwristed she-males, right? That is the stereotype isn't it? So that is what is funny - look everybody! That masculine guy is acting like a faggot! Hahaha! Let's all laugh at faggots! Hahaha!
What a creepy fellow he is, as well as being a blatant homophobe. Thank you for supporting my thesis.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 18, 2012 3:22:57 PM
Seems like a generational thing: self esteem issues, etc. I enjoyed it. Playful. Why take it so seriously?
Posted by: Jim | May 18, 2012 3:39:29 PM
This is NOT homophobic to me, not one bit.
If anything it shows that you just never know about others until they choose to tell you, so be respectful.
Posted by: jexer | May 18, 2012 3:46:02 PM
This is funny stuff!
I don't find it a bit homophobic. Comedians make fun of everything and everyone, and they should. Hell, we make fun of ourselves--the ones with a sense of humor, that is.
That fact that people no longer recoil when asked that question says tons about how far we've come.
My favorite answer was the dad with the baby. The fact that he admitted to watching a gay porno makes others who are curious feel there is nothing wrong with their curiosity and it also dispels the notion that curiosity can make you gay.
It's a comedy skit. Lighten up!
Posted by: truthteller | May 18, 2012 5:01:24 PM
It was a funny comedy skit. Jimmy Kimmel is a good comedian and a friend of the gay community. It is sad that some people have been so psychologically wounded that they can't enjoy the humor. The problem is theirs. Not Kimmel's. It is not a generational thing. I'm 73 and thought it was a very funny bit.
Posted by: andrew | May 18, 2012 7:46:16 PM
you guys who have no sense of humor about this remind me of the excruciatingly humorless, terminally politically correct lesbians of the 1970s around whom it was impossible to joke about ANYTHING without getting an ashen-faced lecture about who you *might* be hurting.
your humorless, like theirs, does/did nothing to enable gay people to take a healthy place in society.
Get TF over yourselves and stop thinking everybody should share your humorless hang-ups.
Posted by: Daniel Berry, NYC | May 18, 2012 8:54:32 PM
@Andrew
did you consider what it would be like to be in the closet to your family and out and proud to your friends and have that question asked of you? What do you do? Deny yourself and feel like $hit and be treated that way by your ex-friends? Out yourself to a family who is not ready for it? You can't say "none of your business" because that declares you are gay - straight people just answere the question.
I hate the fat homophobic retarded jackass that is Jimmy Kimmel because he is abusive of his power to invade people's privacy.
I don't like straight people becuase I am psychologically damaged. Being psychologically damaged has nothing to do with why this is abusive. Read my posts more carefully if you are going to obviously refer to them and myself in your posts.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 18, 2012 9:25:36 PM
Nullnaught, I think the answer to the question if you don't want to talk about it on television is "I don't want to be on your show." That is how adults behave. Maybe you think poorly of straight people, but I have seen no evidence of Kimmel or his staff ever being malicious or homophobic. While you may think this was a negative piece I find it extraordinarily positive that a couple of people admitted to experiences quite unashamedly and there was no negative reaction from their friends or the audience.
You admit to being psychologically damaged and in counseling. You say that every single hetero person you have ever met has treated you poorly. Is it possible that you react negatively on an emotional level in a way that most others would not because of this? I ask because calling someone a "fat homophobic retarded jackass" is usually an indication of a visceral response and not a well reasoned one.
Posted by: AladinSane | May 18, 2012 11:16:18 PM
Believe it or not, behind every cameraperson is another person with a stack of papers, and as soon as your camera time is done, that person will take you off to the side and ask you to sign a release form. They can't show your ugly mug on TV unless you sign one. So, if you were asked something that upsets your delicate sensitivity, and you don't want anyone to see you on TV for fear of being outed, simply DON'T SIGN A RELEASE FORM!!!
Posted by: Gideon S. | May 19, 2012 12:20:26 AM
Well, I have got to admit that I was entertained and intrigued. Funny. But...
I'd still sleep with one eye open.
Posted by: Eddie | May 19, 2012 12:33:44 AM
@Gideon S.
I had no idea how these things work. I have never heard of a release form. believe it or not, my life has just never intersected with this particular triviality. So that line of reasoing is off. I still believe it is homophobic because of all the other reasons I have stated here. I was just trying to illustrate how devastating I thought this could be. But people faced with such a question have to analyse whether to come out to this stranger righ here and now. And even if they are not outed nationally, they are outed involuntarily, or they have to lie to this stranger. This stranger has no right putting them on the spot like that, have they? Could not just asking that of somebody be very harmful in itself?
What if you were deciding if you should come out or not because you were very afraid? If they ask the question and you don't immediately laugh and say "no" then you are kind of outed. It is not something anybody has to think about. You know if you have ever had gay sex or not. It is not something you are unsure of, now is it? So if you hesitate, you are outed to this stranger, and the cameraman and the guy with the forms and the strangers standing around listening to you because they are taping. Don't you think all these people would be invading your privacy? You hesitate, and they all of them look at you with that knowing look; we've got a faggot here.
So you decide to hide deeper in the closet. Real pretty.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 19, 2012 1:06:16 AM
@Nullnaught: While you are free to spend your adult life feeling sorry for yourself because of all the nasty things SOME straight people did to you; I would suggest that you stop using the word "retarded" to characterize people with whom you disagree. That is an extremey hurtful phrase to special needs people and those who love them.
Posted by: andrew | May 19, 2012 2:14:52 AM
Nullnaught, if you live your life believing that being gay is something to be hidden and fearful of the reactions of others that is your business. But because YOU haven't heard of a release form and have had negative experiences with every het you have met it does not necessarily follow that everyone else has. You are projecting. You live your life in fear. You may have good reason, I don't know. But everyone else doesn't have to agree to be afraid the way you are.
You didn't seem to be at all concerned that you called Kimmel "retarded" which developmentally disabled adults consider offensive. Pot, meet kettle.
I also find it interesting that you skip my previous post to jump on something you consider "trivial" from Gideon.
But here's the thing: people in the closet spend all day every day deciding when or if to come out. If you agree to be interviewed on air you have already decided which way you will answer. You KNOW that somehow you might be exposed no matter the issue because you are already paranoid.
Posted by: AladinSane | May 19, 2012 2:18:01 AM
BTW Nullnaught, your position logically implies a conclusion which you have not stated. If it is not NOW ok to ask someone if they have had a gay experience when will it? And if never, why?
Posted by: AladinSane | May 19, 2012 2:27:13 AM
Aladinsane
I didn't see the post I failed to respond to. It was an oversight.
I am used to anti-mentally-ill bigotry on this sight, so I am not at all hurt by your insulting insinuation that because I have been traumatized I can't think.
You did not read my posts at all carefully. I am out and proud and have been so for many many years. I don't fear. But I remember what it was like in the closet. You don't want it exposed to anyone; not even some a$$hole on the street with a microphone. That question outs you if you don't reflexively lie. It is hard to reflexively lie when shocked like that and someone in the closet would be very shocked by that. If you read my last post, you will see that I assume the person in the closet doesn't consent to the interview. somebody walks up and asks you a shocking question; you don't reflexively lie; you are outed to these strangers and go deeper in the closet. You never consent to any of it but it is done to you just the same.
When I was in the closet, I wasn't good enough at if for everyone and straight guys would every once in a while ask me that while in argument with me just to humiliate me and make me back down.
Because it will never be completely safe for all gay people to come out, and because it will never be the case that all gay people will be willing to come out, it will never be o.k. to ask such an intimate question of a complete stranger. Never.
Posted by: NullNaught | May 19, 2012 3:04:13 AM
NULLNAUGHT - I am sorry for your pain and very happy to hear that you are on the mend, it takes a long time sometimes and in such case that's what time is for.
Me...I thought the video was fun - not awkward or embarrassing as I had feared - and the last response was the best. "Does gay porn count?" - only if you liked it. I think he did.
Posted by: UFFDA | May 19, 2012 6:55:47 AM
I don't find it homophobic in the least. The underlying issue is that same gender desire is common among a random sampling of people on the street- and it's fun to show it. Even among two pairs of friends who weren't up front about it beforehand and clearly found it racy and fun to divulge in this setting.
Comments to the contrary sound a little shrill to me.
Posted by: Rob | May 19, 2012 9:53:33 AM