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Karl Rove Accuses Obama of Politicizing Gay Marriage: VIDEO


Karl Rove, who was key to making gay marriage a wedge issue in the 2004 election, accuses Obama of doing the same.

Writes Jon Bershad at Mediaite: "This interview is basically like watching Michael Jordan go on TV and accuse someone else of being a basketball player."


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  1. the hypocrisy, it burns

    Posted by: RGG | May 11, 2012 1:11:24 PM

  2. republicans are just evil

    Posted by: t | May 11, 2012 1:13:10 PM

  3. This from the mastermind of the strategy of getting anti-gay ballot initiatives into the 2004 elections as a way to have GWB win.

    Posted by: QJ201 | May 11, 2012 1:15:04 PM

  4. JUST. COME. OUT. OF. THE. CLOSET already Carl you self loathing hater of all "openly" gay men and women. Just because your so damn ugly physically and spiritually doesn't mean you can't find someone to love you for the reprehensible anti-human being you really are!

    Posted by: SFshawn | May 11, 2012 1:16:14 PM

  5. Come on everyone... did you really expect anything less from Karl (Satan incarnate) Rove?

    Posted by: Mike | May 11, 2012 1:21:45 PM

  6. Because clearly, politicizing the Iraq War and the Afghanistan war weren't anything bad.

    Posted by: Rick Aiello | May 11, 2012 1:23:02 PM

  7. Wha....huh....WHA?????
    I agree with RGG about the 'hypocrisy'......this man simply has no soul.

    Posted by: Geoff M | May 11, 2012 1:28:34 PM

  8. Henceforth, I suggest we reply to GOP "pundits" Family Values "experts" and Log Cabin "er, self-loathers" with a simple set of interrogatives: "And you matter why? You represent who? You are from where? You will die when?"
    They don't call it a Culture War fer nuthin', bitches.

    Posted by: Wavin' Dave | May 11, 2012 1:42:28 PM

  9. well that didn't make a lick of sense.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | May 11, 2012 1:47:06 PM

  10. Bald, round faced, fat ;looks like an overfed foetus; it must be a Republican.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | May 11, 2012 1:58:55 PM

  11. Don't forget, Rove's dad was gay:

    Posted by: Terry | May 11, 2012 2:02:55 PM

  12. Shut the f*** up, Goebbels! Nobody gives a s*** what you think!

    Posted by: Pygar | May 11, 2012 2:03:20 PM

  13. Gosh. Perhaps next politicians will be politicizing the budget, the welfare system, foreign policy, and other, you know, political issues.

    Posted by: BABH | May 11, 2012 2:10:35 PM

  14. Well there's final proof that gay rights are now a losing proposition for the GOP.

    Posted by: yonquersconquers | May 11, 2012 2:10:36 PM

  15. Miss Karlene--she just nasty!

    Posted by: Tamika | May 11, 2012 2:10:42 PM

  16. Really Karl? I think conc, reps and Fox News are totally lost and all the time talking about gay marriage.

    Posted by: Matt26 | May 11, 2012 2:22:49 PM

  17. um, ok turdblossom.

    Posted by: wtf | May 11, 2012 2:26:14 PM

  18. Karla talking about campaign tactics is laughable.
    What an insipid ass.

    Posted by: nick | May 11, 2012 2:27:22 PM

  19. Wait...what?

    Anyone who believes the effing enemy.

    Posted by: Polyboy | May 11, 2012 2:45:19 PM

  20. Can't even watch the clip. The sight and sound of that pasty-faced f*ck has made me sick to my stomach for a decade now. He is without a soul. I can't figure out what his motivation ever was to begin with, because in the end, he will be nothing more than he was at the beginning--a disgustingly sad example of human being.

    Posted by: jim | May 11, 2012 3:28:08 PM

  21. And in other news, "Water accuses Sand of being Wet."

    Really. Both sides perplex me with all this "they're trying to politicize this" talk. For heaven's sake, gay marriage IS a political issue. Yes, I know and respect the fact that all of you here would like the issue to be considered part of one's civil rights, and hence, not open for discussion. But that's what we're trying to do - figure out of a consensus can be built that will get people to agree on this idea. As of now, there is no consensus, so the issue is still political.

    As for creating "wedges", isn't there a "wedge" just by the fact that the public is still heavily divided on a topic? Any time an issue hasn't yet been decided, it makes sense for each party to try to play up its own side on the issue to win votes. Honestly, I don't see what makes this underhanded. If Democrats want to paint the Republicans as theocratic and try to pry away moderate voters from them due to the sometimes bizarre antics of the Christian Right that strikes me as perfectly legitimate.

    Am I missing something here?

    Posted by: mary | May 11, 2012 3:30:02 PM

  22. We have never had an election in my lifetime that was about something as simple as good vs evil. After this week of the RNC being thoroughly outed and the more the RNC opens their mouths the more transparently evil they become.

    Posted by: VDUFFORD | May 11, 2012 3:56:15 PM

  23. Another one who if he died in his sleep tonight of natural causes I'd bake a celebratory cake tomorrow.

    Posted by: Oliver | May 11, 2012 4:00:39 PM

  24. THAT...from Karl Rove, the mastermind behind the 04 push to put marriage amendments on the ballot...that created the hate filled atmosphere we are fighting every day? This has seriously struck me dumb. Just when you think they have hit the bottom of insanity and lies, they reveal there is a whole layer of ..... whatever. I suppose we wait for Cheney to say they never suggested there were weapons of mass destruction either... I give up.

    Posted by: Michaelandfred | May 11, 2012 4:03:03 PM

  25. @ Mary: I'm not sure you're clear on what a "wedge" is in politics. It's when an issue divides a constituency, not the whole population. LGBT rights used to divide Democrats: some were pro-gay, others not, while Republicans were solidly anti-gay. So Republicans (specifically, Karl Rove's crew) were able to use LGBT rights as a wedge issue to divide Democrats. Democrats desperately did not want to talk about LGBT issues during election seasons, because at the time it could only hurt them.

    Now Democrats are pretty much united in our pro-gay position, because the forces of equality have won the internal debate. But Republican opinion is divided, because while the American population "evolved," the Republican party moved sharply to the right for short-term gain. Karl Rove personally told the President of Log Cabin in 2004 that he was going to sacrifice 1 million gay votes in order to win 4 million evangelical votes. Bush won by almost exactly 3 million votes.

    Now we get to use LGBT rights as a wedge against Republicans, pointing out that they have become dominated by a radical fringe of so-called "christian" extremists. Naturally they don't like it, so Rove goes on TV to whine about how unfair it is that his narrow-minded, short-sighted strategy is now backfiring on him.

    Posted by: BABH | May 11, 2012 4:20:11 PM

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