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Indiana University Teacher Arrested After Objecting to Red Cross Ban on Gay Blood Donation

An Indiana University teacher says he was arrested last week after telling Red Cross bloodmobile employees that they were in violation of the school's nondiscrimination policy for prohibiting donations of blood from gay men. The situation escalated, police were called, and the man was placed under arrest and spent a day in jail, he says.

Uri Horesh writes: Blood

I went in, waited for my turn, had my blood pressure and hemoglobin checked, and proceded to answer a computerized questionnaire. When it was reviewed by the Red Cross employee, I was told that because I answered the question about having had sex with other men the way I did, I would be deferred indefinitely from donating blood.

I, in turn, told her that she was in violation of the Indiana University nondiscrimination policy, which, among others, prohibits banning any person from participating in university activities on the basis of sexual orientation. She called another Red Cross employee, who in turn called another Red Cross employee, who in turn called Indiana University Police.

Two police officers arrived at the bloodmobile, refusing to listen to anything I had to say. They grabbed me, refused to read me my rights under Miranda, even when I explicitly asked them to (they eventually did, after I was handcuffed and placed in the police car), and only told me I was under arrest after I asked them whether I was.

I later learned from one of the officers that one of the Red Cross employees (he referred to her as a "nurse") accused me of spitting at her. That is a false accusation. But in the State of Indiana, spitting at someone is considered "battery," and the mere charge of battery warrants placing the person arrested for that charge in custody for 24 hours.

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  1. I think his point was that due to the Non Discrimination Policy that they should not have been parked on school property

    Posted by: Will | Jun 25, 2012 7:57:35 PM


  2. @Randy, you got me! I'm a modern-day Nazi apologist.... Honestly, you and that professor should get together and go bowling.

    Look, the policy is flawed, but regular and plentiful blood donation is critical to all of us. I have considered making hay about this on the campus where I work, but do not want to do ANYTHING to discourage anyone who can donate blood from donating blood. Imagine if protests like this were to become widespread, challenging front-line blood collectors and/or challenging the right for the Red Cross or others to collect blood when it conflicts with local non-discrimination policies. That would lead to disruptions in the always-low blood supply (blocking blood banks' access to the community, or encouraging straights to refrain from donating as a form of protest), which would lead to deaths. That's not an over-dramatization.

    I am an HIV- universal donor who happens to be gay. If I could, I would donate as often as I could. I hate the policy because it restricts me (and the rest of us) from saving lives, not because I need validation or to be shielded from discrimination. But even if you feel the latter (and I'm not faulting those who do), it should not be battled against in a way that could cost lives. Not a single person should die to make this change happen.

    BTW, @Mike8787, I really really like your post and its logic, but run your math again - I think you underestimate the number of unintentional HIV+ donations by a factor of 10. Not disagreeing with your overall point - Just saying, FYI.

    Posted by: Marty | Jun 25, 2012 7:59:12 PM


  3. @JOHNNY: That would be Prof. Obvious to you. :D

    Posted by: William | Jun 25, 2012 8:30:04 PM


  4. Just to add my two quarters (I would say my two cents; but, hey, inflation): I started donating blood when I was 13. That lasted until I was 17. From the beginning, I had to answer whether I had slept with some one of the same sex (amongst other questions). In the beginning, I was able to answer honestly and donate blood. Towards the end of my time donating blood, I had to start lying. Eventually, I got to the point where lying was pointless.

    I totally disagree with the policy that gays can't donate blood and look forward to the day when I can return to donating blood. But I also understand that access to blood is, too often, a matter of life or death. While I want to see the policy changed, I would not even consider disrupting a blood drive to make my point. Lives are on the line.

    Posted by: William | Jun 25, 2012 8:41:21 PM


  5. How backwards, no wonder the United States is lagging behind other developed nations. In the Philippines, which is a third world Catholic country, sexual orientation is not even considered when donating blood. One person's blood is as good as anyone else's.

    Posted by: Winston | Jun 25, 2012 9:13:47 PM


  6. The reaction here to this has been largely ludicrous.

    What exactly is the difference between what this man did, and the actions of a student who attempted to enlist in the military via a campus ROTC outfit, in the days of DADT? Replace the Red Cross nurse with the recruitment officer, who is carrying out a policy of discrimination through his bosses (the military, the Defense Department and the federal government), and you have the exact same scenario.

    What exactly is the difference between what this man did, and a gay couple who went to their local county clerk's office to register for a marriage license in a state/country where marriage equality is illegal? Replace the Red Cross nurse with the county clerk, who is carrying out a policy of discrimination through her bosses (the state and the federal government), and you have the exact same scenario.

    I could go on and on with these correlations, but the simple fact is this is grass roots activism 101. Good on this professor for having the guts to finally challenge this BS discrimination. If the nurse had ignored policy and put this man's blood into the system, creating a crisis in the blood chain, good...it might finally result in this policy being seen for the outright bigotry and bad science it represents. If like-minded straights finally see that they're inadvertently advocating bigotry and decide to stop donating blood, creating a crisis in the blood supply chain, good...it might finally result in this policy being seen for the outright bigotry and bad science it represents.

    If you're fine with being discriminated against, then go right ahead and keep on referring to this smart activist for being a "drama queen."

    Posted by: MrRoboto | Jun 26, 2012 12:56:23 AM


  7. The gay blood plan, just like marriage discrimination is based on fear and ignorance. When I was younger before I came out I donated frequently. I remembered the first time I was not allowed to donate and the shocked look the nurse volunteer gave me. Also a few years ago coworkers had a hard time understanding why I could not donate... The gay blood ban really is left in place because the FDA does not want to deal with peoples ignorance.

    Posted by: Tom in long beach | Jun 26, 2012 1:52:39 AM


  8. The comments from "Marty" are the same rationale used by bigots over the centuries to further discrimination. "This is for the greater good." "We must take these steps to protect the entire population." "These issues are more important than just a few." "This is life and death." Uh huh. It's bigotry and discrimination.

    The simple, clear reality is this: HIV+ blood does not get into the blood supply because all blood is tested repeatedly. IV drug users lie regularly and donate blood. Those who've had unprotected heterosexual sex hundreds of time in a year donate blood. Those with predispositions to severe genetic disorders also get to give blood. Blood is tested for all of those problems.

    As others have stated, this is activism 101. Call the universities on their hypocrisy. Force change by cutting off the blood supply from colleges and universities, and you'll see a change happen very, very quickly.

    Posted by: MarkRocks | Jun 26, 2012 9:13:58 AM


  9. @Marty Thanks for the heads up -- my error was in forgetting a decimal point in my statistics. There are in fact 1.2 million Americans living with HIV, not 12 million. That means the 42 years before an HIV+ false negative should still be correct.

    Posted by: Mike8787 | Jun 26, 2012 9:25:42 AM


  10. Common misconception:

    Police aren't required to read you your miranda rights while being arrested, only if being questioned about a specific crime or interrogated. I tried using this as a defense the first time I got arrested because the cop didn't read me my miranda rights. Needless to say the judge looked at me like a 20 year old idiot (in her defense I was a 20year old idiot)

    Posted by: dj_gayburn | Jun 26, 2012 10:14:17 AM


  11. Mark rocks and mrroboto - never said I support the ban, far from it. It's based on old science, it is completely unjustifiable due to better testing, it continues due to fear not science, and I want the ban to end today as much as you. I was simply stating the fact that activism of this form on a large scale will disrupt blood collection, and as a result, people will die. Not just bad people like me - Maybe even you.

    It's really counterintuitive to why this policy needs to change. As mike8787 demonstrated, changing this policy will lead to millions of saved lives.

    Less discrimination against you and me is also a benefit, but it certainly comes in second, don't you think?

    No, wait, you don't think that - in fact by your logic I'm just a bigot who want this discrimination to continue. I must be self-loathing, right? There's only one way to solve this problem, it's your way, and anyone who disagrees is a bigot.

    Well, this poor bigot wants to know, since you know how activism is most effective, please inform us all how many people should die in order for this change to happen. I want specific numbers. Please, don't tell me again how I'm a bigot of old, i know that's what i am - just pin down a number for us.

    Posted by: Marty | Jun 27, 2012 10:05:04 AM


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