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Titans QB Matt Hasselbeck Discussed Gay Players with Teammates, Agreed None of Them Would Care

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Outsports' Cyd Zeigler shares a conversation he had with Tennessee Titans quarterback Matt Hasselbeck on the red carpet at the ESPY Awards on the topic of openly gay players in the NFL.

Hasselbeck says that when former Titan Wade Davis came out last month, his teammates discussed it:

"The quarterback room conversation was that, ‘Hey, has anybody played with an openly gay teammate?’ And nobody had. And it’s kind of irrelevant to the discussion in terms of how we would view that person as a teammate or how we would view that person as a friend, or how we would trust that person.”

He adds: "The question did come up, well, what about in the shower? And those are tricky, delicate issues. But so are female reporters in the locker room. There’s rarely a clear, black and white answer on a lot of tricky issues. But I think, at least for the three quarterbacks in our room, it was kind of a shrug, yeah, so what?"

Hasselbeck also said it would be "brave" for an active player in the NFL to come out, but says it wouldn't faze him.

Hasselbeck is the brother of Tim Hasselbeck and brother-in-law to View co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck.

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  1. Take it from me, most NFL players are bisexual in their orientation. They're just too afraid to admit it.

    The "is there a gay player in the NFL" line is a convenient distraction because it forces the discussion into a false choice. In other words, it confines the discussion to two extremes. Don't fall for it.

    Posted by: jason | Jul 24, 2012 10:36:19 AM


  2. Take it from me, most NFL players are bisexual in their orientation. They're just too afraid to admit it.

    The "is there a gay player in the NFL" line is a convenient distraction because it forces the discussion into a false choice. In other words, it confines the discussion to two extremes. Don't fall for it.

    Posted by: jason | Jul 24, 2012 10:36:21 AM


  3. Why is the shower issue such an issue with these athletes? Do they think a gay person is going to attack them and rape them? Has there ever been a case of a gay guy attacking a straight guy in the showers? Do they think that a gay man is attracted to EVERY man? And he's going to pop a boner in the shower? They have women reporters in the locker room, they don't care about a woman checking out their junk? Gay football players are there to play and work hard a t a game they love, they are not there to "pick up" guys, just as a gay soldier is a soldier because he wants to serve America. These players need to get over the shower issue.

    Posted by: KuMiCu | Jul 24, 2012 11:14:44 AM


  4. Did he discuss this with his wife? She will either have to change her viewpoints on the View, or Matt will have to sleep on the couch.

    Posted by: Jack M | Jul 24, 2012 11:25:54 AM


  5. There are already bisexual and gay men on every team, in addition to the heteroflexible ones. As such, athletes are already playing and showering with bisexual and gay men. Further, many sports reporters and staff are bisexual or gay, so they are already disrobing before multiple same-sex oriented men.

    Posted by: Javier | Jul 24, 2012 11:29:24 AM


  6. I don't get the "shower" thing. At all. I literally don't understand it. What is it they think is going to happen in a shower?

    "i just want to make sure some gay guy doesnt' think i'm sexy when i'm showering

    don't worry. we won't. we know how you straight men don't know how to clean your bums properly. we're keeping our distance. ;-)

    in other news, i'm a gay man. i like other gay men, not straight men. because i'm gay. i'm not sure what's so hard to understand about this. we gay dudes date other gay dudes. the only ones who pathetically lust after The Straights are those who don't get any action in real life because they're too busy refusing to progress from their adolescent fantasy-land.

    i'd like to know his thoughts on ACTUAL equality, however.

    i guess i'm *happy* he shrugged it off, but i can't help but think that in America in 2012 a message of "i encourage any gay players to come out and i promise to support them" would have been better.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Jul 24, 2012 11:36:53 AM


  7. Jack, Elisabeth's husband is Matt's brother Tim. While I don't agree with her politics she is a "strong" voice in right wing talking heads that support gay rights. When we attack people that are our allies, particularly ones that are considered conservative in other aspects, it makes us look crazy. She has said many times that she's on our side. If we stop spreading our anger out at people that don't deserve it and start directing it at people that are actively trying to deny us rights, especially ones in power, we will be a lot more effective.

    Posted by: AJ | Jul 24, 2012 11:38:24 AM


  8. AJ, i'm gonna have to call your bluff on that. Elisabeth Hasselbeck's "support" of us has been pithy lip-service, where she uses very selective vocabulary to make it *seem* like she supports LGBT Equality, without ever actually saying it in the plainest terms that her braindead fanbase would understand.

    The View is a show about different women representing different points of view - and Hasselbeck is there to represent America's Stupidest Women. She knows this. And that's why her "support" has been half-@ssed at best. She'll *support* in a way that her right-leaning Jeebus-Worshipping gun-nut fan base can't pick up on, which is useless.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Jul 24, 2012 11:49:45 AM


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  10. "Why is the shower issue such an issue with these athletes? Do they think a gay person is going to attack them and rape them? Has there ever been a case of a gay guy attacking a straight guy in the showers? Do they think that a gay man is attracted to EVERY man?"

    So, in the spirit of your argument, would you be OK with "straight" male coaches taking showers with their female basketball players, say? Or at least having access to the locker room while they are naked? And should these women just "deal with it"?

    Look, the issue can be worked around--and that is what Hasselbeck basically said, but nobody likes having their nude body ogled by someone who they have no desire to have sex with.

    It is not about the practicality of it; it is about the emotions, involved.

    Here's an idea--instead of trying to pick a fight with someone or a group of people who are trying to change in a positive way, why don't you acknowledge the effort they are making and encourage it?

    We would have made a lot more progress by now if some of you had......

    Posted by: Rick | Jul 24, 2012 12:06:09 PM


  11. Nice, intelligent reasoning on his part.
    It's a shame about the part where his family intermarried with a less than stellar line of reasoning.

    Posted by: Dego | Jul 24, 2012 12:09:22 PM


  12. If any adult on here can't tell the difference between a gay man and a straight woman they should go chug a bottle of drano as they clearly are on the mediocre end of basic human intelligence.

    if you've ever showered in a gym, you've showered in the company of gay and straight men, at the same time.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Jul 24, 2012 12:13:11 PM


  13. @LittleKiwi - Elisabeth has been very clear, in the plainest terms, that she supports gay marriage. Yes, her views have changed since she's been on the show. But she has supported gay marriage on multiple occasions and unambiguously.

    Posted by: Alan | Jul 24, 2012 12:30:56 PM


  14. "can't tell the difference between a gay man and a straight woman. . .clearly are on the mediocre end of basic human intelligence."

    Interestingly, a line I've heard before on homophobia: straight men don't want to be treated the way they treat women. The "shower problem" stems entirely from a straight-guy fear of being sexually objectified.

    Posted by: dex | Jul 24, 2012 12:31:43 PM


  15. when you support gay marriage without saying "i believe gay couples should be legally allowed to marry across America" and continue to support politicians who support BANNING gay couples from marrying your "support" is nothing but pithy lip-service.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Jul 24, 2012 12:37:46 PM


  16. Come on the shower thing is absurd. Locker rooms at the gym are not segregated straight/gay and that works fine. At least it does in my very mixed gym. And if someone makes an unwanted pass, just handle it like an adult. And if someone is impressed by your physical appearance in the locker room, handle it like an adult--without drama. All this anxiety over nothing.

    Posted by: dms | Jul 24, 2012 12:38:43 PM


  17. dear straight football players, take a lesson from straight men involved in theatre - stop worrying about changing and showering next to gay people. we don't want you. we have other gay people to date.
    backstage in a musical is a sea of jockstraps and dancebelts, quickchanges and nudity, gay straight male female. and nobody gives a damn. why? oh, you know, maybe because we have a job to do.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Jul 24, 2012 12:43:47 PM


  18. I see what you're saying Littlekiwi... sort of. My original point is whether or not she's marching at Pride, she has said she supports marriage equality in no uncertain terms and she's said that on numerous occasions. If we yell at someone that's on our side, that's not going to help other people come onto our side. We need to focus on the people that are trying to deny us rights in no uncertain terms.

    Posted by: AJ | Jul 24, 2012 1:20:00 PM


  19. I'm not yelling, nor am I demanding that she march in a parade. I simply want her to do more than pay lip-service.

    Check out her soundbites - her use of words speaks volumes. or doesn't speak volumes, if you catch my drift.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Jul 24, 2012 1:26:53 PM


  20. Well this guy may have had many knocks on the head during his playing career but he's still smarter than Elizabeth Hasselback !

    Posted by: Icebloo | Jul 24, 2012 1:36:08 PM


  21. "Come on the shower thing is absurd. Locker rooms at the gym are not segregated straight/gay and that works fine"

    I have made that point myself to straight men who raise this issue, but they point out, fairly, that while they know abstractly that there are gay men in the shower with them from time to time, they don't know if any individual man is gay or not and can therefore assume he is straight.

    Again, this is not about the practicality of the matter. There is little chance that a male coach showering with his female players would attack any of them, either, but nobody would argue that he should be allowed to shower with them.

    To repeat, however, why are you focusing on the negative? The real news here is that NFL players discussed among themselves a gay player having come out and basically agreed that it would not be a huge issue if they had one on their team......which represents HUGE progress over what the situation was even ten years ago, much less thirty years ago.....

    Posted by: Rick | Jul 24, 2012 2:00:59 PM


  22. Musicals are a sea of jockstraps? Clearly I missed my true calling.

    Posted by: Jeremy | Jul 24, 2012 2:37:54 PM


  23. "Most NFL players are bisexual" do you know this from personal experience ?!

    Posted by: jaragon | Jul 24, 2012 5:46:46 PM


  24. Matt Hasslebeck SHOULD HAVE STAYED WITH, Seattle Seahawks - I LOVED HIM IN THE GREAT NORTHWEST.

    CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    Posted by: CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON | Jul 25, 2012 12:46:51 AM


  25. IN MEMPHIS HOMELESS SHELTERS, MALES IN THE COMMUNITY SHOWERS HAVE ERECTIONS - SOME EVEN MASTURBATE.

    CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    Posted by: CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON | Jul 25, 2012 12:59:50 AM


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