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  1. Lonewolfen says

    Once again. It’s always about the freedom of speech thing, never the real issue of giving millions to hate mongers. WTF is up with the press lately? How many have called Cathy the CEO/founder, which he’s NOT! And why do I have yet to come across anyone asking Obama about his take on this?

  2. Francis c says

    This is what we’re up against, boys and girls. Not only do these anti-gays hate us. But they are SMUG, PRIDEFUL AND ARROGANT about their hatred of us and wiping that hatred in our face. Dan Cathy doing this is nothing more than wiping his hatred in our face. Now I better not see any gay person or so-called straight ally defending Dan Cathy, CFA or any homophobe. These people are on complete warpath against our community. They HATE us. And we have to highlight this hatred to greater society, and we have to continue to be outspoken and stand tall against this hatred.

  3. Rob says

    Well well well the republican candidate, who’s company had to pay off how many women because of sexual harrassment, speaks.
    Hmmmm. Herman Cain has no credibility.

  4. John says

    Bill Clinton sexually harassed a lot of women, but that didn’t stop him from being a great president.

    If you’re going to criticize Herman Cain, it might be better to focus on his media whoredom and stupid policy proposals.

  5. graphicjack says

    Yes, by defending our human rights and being justifiably upset over profits from a company being syphoned to anti-gay groups, we are clearly “seeking attention” just for attention’s sake… and this coming from a total media whore. Classic.

  6. MagicIke says

    So how does the black community feel about this? This is horrible on more ways than one. But as been noted, this man celebrating it is even more amazing

  7. wkm1965 says

    I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. CATHEY OR ANY OF THESE GOOD CHRISTIANS WHO STOOD IN LINE FOR “FREE” CHICKEN HOW MUCH WAS GIVEN TO HOMELESS SHELTERS OR SOUP KITCHENS TO FEED THE HUNGRY?

  8. Real Talk says

    This is shameful that he’s so joyful about this. As a black man, nothing infuriates me more than my people not knowing their own dang history.

  9. Kielan says

    Chik Fil A donating this amount to causes that seek to eliminate us is more newsworthy to me than gay adoption or gay court cases. This hate filled groups money will help faciliatate gay suicides, end relationships and destroy our livelihood. Thats very significant to me

  10. says

    Every gay person owes it to themselves to inform your straight friends who frequent chik fil a that their money is literally going to destroy the rights of their friend. Make them better informed.

  11. Scott Johansen says

    How can any straight person in good conscience donate money to this establishment knowing it’s going to ruin the lives of gay youth, gay families? Its this kind of stuff that turns me into a gay activisit whereas a few years ago I was indifferent. I’m incredibly involved in my communities movement now

  12. Moviefantaic says

    @ scott
    Given the hate campaign the christians have created against us, how can ANY LGBT not be actively involved in activism for our community? We should all do our part

  13. Mike says

    Not that long ago Herman Cain’s ancestors were slaves in America to Christians who used the Bible to explain how they could make another human being into a slave by saying that in the Bible God said they could own slaves. Then these same Christians fought a war to keep another human being a slave. Herman seems to forget that it took intelligent men who knew slavery was wrong and who were willing to fight to fee slaves then, had they not fought to free his ancestors Herman would still be a slave today. Lincoln freed the slaves and now it is time for Obama to free the gays.

  14. Steve-ATL says

    So Chik Fil A has officially established itself as a company that strictly exists to strip LGBT of their equality. As of now, I don’t believe there’s any backlash strong enough against them. They have drawn the line in the sand and are now threatening the existence of our people

  15. Art Smith says

    If this company, ANY company donated this unbelievable amount of money to discriminate against black people…. Not a single store would exist in America. NOT ONE.
    That a hate company which donates to hate groups and promotes hate toward another demographic is allowed is OUTRAGEOUS!

  16. Macmantoo says

    I think Chik fil a should hold on to their money. Yesterday was a one timer, but now they have to make up for all the customers they offended with thier hate speech. Over the long haul-give it a year-the amount of sales they will lose will hurt.

  17. Dan savage says

    This kiss in has become kind of like a code pink protest.
    See with other protests you can have thousands and thousands of people protesting and if the left and the media disagree well then it gets very little if any coverage.
    But when you have a code pink protest or militant gays all you need to have are 3 members within 5 square miles of each other and it gets covered as a major political event.
    And thats what this was…Built up as a major political event that would change the poltical landscape…And it turned out to be…not much of anything.

    I still don’t understand what exactly a kiss in is supposed to be protesting. Their perversions?

  18. Richard says

    Here’s why the Chick-fil-a blip o’ the week was a lose/lose for both sides. Chick-fil-a, at first glance made a boatload of money this week. Were that largess from the conservative communities (plural) to continue, the Cathy family would soon overshadow the Gate’s and the Rockefeller’s in the bankbook. Alas, this is not to be.

    You see, the people who showed up to Chick-fil-a to dutifully and piously wait for up to a couple hours for a chicken sandwich fall into four general categories:

    AThe filthy rich (Palin, Huckabee), who can afford Chick-fil-a for breakfast, lunch, snacks, and dinner (except on Sunday). They won’t do that of course, because they have an education, and know the food would soon be a detriment to health and longevity. This group is a minority. The television cameras soon will not be at Chik-fil-a, and since this group follows the TV cameras, they won’t be coming back so often.

    BThe old, who generally have very traditional outlooks and opinions on things (and have no problem broadcasting those opinions) live on a very set income. Wednesday’s splurge will have cost them a significant portion of that income. Alpo could well be on the menu come the end of the month. They won’t be coming back so often.

    CChristian fundamentalists who attend churches where the sermons are based upon “prosperity theology,” and the minister has carefully cherry-picked the verses of the KJV that work well for them. They have educations and good careers. They were taught and promised that God truly wanted them to have that $300K suburban McMansion with a swimming pool and hot tub. If they’re still living in it, they just wasted a significant portion of the money they had saved to pay the mortgage on the underwater McMansion this month, buying more chicken sandwiches than necessary so that they could “keep up with the Jones family” with protestations of righteousness. They won’t be coming back so often. Neither will the Jones family… same reasons.

    DThe rest of the people who showed up are a mixed bag. A general characteristic is that they may have basic educations, and believe anything they’re told — especially if it shows up on the internet, radio talk shows, or daytime TV. Their churches teach “liberation theology”, and they believe that the poor shall inherit the Earth, and the minister has carefully cherry-picked the verses of the KJV that work well for them. Their incomes are limited due to their socio-economic and educational levels. They also spent more money than they needed to spend, and since Chick-fil-a doesn’t accept food stamps, they won’t be coming back so often.

    Chick-fil-a should enjoy the infusion of cash while it lasts, because the folks that stayed away — the ones with open minds and disposable incomes and who were until Wednesday able to accept or otherwise ignore the philosophical anomalies of the Cathy clan, were insulted. The first (and easily forgettable) insults were the rather insignificant comments of the COO. This group would have gotten over that in time, and soon would have been happily munching on chicken sandwiches and yummy waffle fries. The vitriolic comments made by groups A-D above while standing in line have, however, poisoned both the brand and the atmosphere in the restaurants. It doesn’t matter if Chick-fil-a instigated, supported, or even discouraged or disavowed those comments: the atmosphere in the restaurants has been poisoned. This group — the one with open minds and disposable income — won’t be coming back. Ever.

    Now on to the activists in the liberal communities (plural). Your reactions and pontifications won no friends either. Of particular hilarity was the “same-sex kiss in”, which was (and the reader must admit) a knee-jerk, in-your-face, reactionary and punitive action. As a display of childish nanner nanner boo boo, it was most entertaining. As an act of social activism, it was an abject failure.

    A successful act of social activism is a carefully organized, considered and constructive public performance that is designed to change minds and hearts — think Gandhi & MLK. Yes, after all the ills you have been made to bear, it might have felt nice and very satisfying to piss Bubba off. However, all this kiss-in did, indeed, was piss Bubba off.

    You see, Bubba doesn’t generally have a robust education. He may or may not have a high school diploma. He may or may not have a GED. Whichever the case, he certainly does not know what a “metaphor” is, and since he has no concept of Freud’s psychic defense mechanism of “reaction formation”, he does not understand why seeing two men kiss makes his gut roil. His mind and heart is not changed, but hardened. It has to be, otherwise Bubba’s “Beta” friends might sense weakness; they take their behavioral cues from Bubba, who (for the moment) is the Alpha.

    Bubba’s wife is another story altogether. She may well be capable of putting a voice to the concerns she has long held about some of Bubba’s behaviors, but she dare not voice those concerns. This leaves her with another of Freud’s mechanisms: denial. She gets carefully and largely coiffed, and begins shrieking verses from Leviticus, hoping against hope that it will change her lot in life. Pity her.

    Get everyone together around something where leaders are telling them that their actions are righteous, and poison is brewed.

    Ouch, ouch, ouch and ouch: nobody wins. Everybody fails.

  19. Richard says

    Here’s why the Chick-fil-a blip o’ the week was a lose/lose for both sides. Chick-fil-a, at first glance made a boatload of money this week. Were that largess from the conservative communities (plural) to continue, the Cathy family would soon overshadow the Gate’s and the Rockefeller’s in the bankbook. Alas, this is not to be.

    You see, the people who showed up to Chick-fil-a to dutifully and piously wait for up to a couple hours for a chicken sandwich fall into four general categories:

    AThe filthy rich (Palin, Huckabee), who can afford Chick-fil-a for breakfast, lunch, snacks, and dinner (except on Sunday). They won’t do that of course, because they have an education, and know the food would soon be a detriment to health and longevity. This group is a minority. The television cameras soon will not be at Chik-fil-a, and since this group follows the TV cameras, they won’t be coming back so often.

    BThe old, who generally have very traditional outlooks and opinions on things (and have no problem broadcasting those opinions) live on a very set income. Wednesday’s splurge will have cost them a significant portion of that income. Alpo could well be on the menu come the end of the month. They won’t be coming back so often.

    CChristian fundamentalists who attend churches where the sermons are based upon “prosperity theology,” and the minister has carefully cherry-picked the verses of the KJV that work well for them. They have educations and good careers. They were taught and promised that God truly wanted them to have that $300K suburban McMansion with a swimming pool and hot tub. If they’re still living in it, they just wasted a significant portion of the money they had saved to pay the mortgage on the underwater McMansion this month, buying more chicken sandwiches than necessary so that they could “keep up with the Jones family” with protestations of righteousness. They won’t be coming back so often. Neither will the Jones family… same reasons.

    DThe rest of the people who showed up are a mixed bag. A general characteristic is that they may have basic educations, and believe anything they’re told — especially if it shows up on the internet, radio talk shows, or daytime TV. Their churches teach “liberation theology”, and they believe that the poor shall inherit the Earth, and the minister has carefully cherry-picked the verses of the KJV that work well for them. Their incomes are limited due to their socio-economic and educational levels. They also spent more money than they needed to spend, and since Chick-fil-a doesn’t accept food stamps, they won’t be coming back so often.

    Chick-fil-a should enjoy the infusion of cash while it lasts, because the folks that stayed away — the ones with open minds and disposable incomes and who were until Wednesday able to accept or otherwise ignore the philosophical anomalies of the Cathy clan, were insulted. The first (and easily forgettable) insults were the rather insignificant comments of the COO. This group would have gotten over that in time, and soon would have been happily munching on chicken sandwiches and yummy waffle fries. The vitriolic comments made by groups A-D above while standing in line have, however, poisoned both the brand and the atmosphere in the restaurants. It doesn’t matter if Chick-fil-a instigated, supported, or even discouraged or disavowed those comments: the atmosphere in the restaurants has been poisoned. This group — the one with open minds and disposable income — won’t be coming back. Ever.

    Now on to the activists in the liberal communities (plural). Your reactions and pontifications won no friends either. Of particular hilarity was the “same-sex kiss in”, which was (and the reader must admit) a knee-jerk, in-your-face, reactionary and punitive action. As a display of childish nanner nanner boo boo, it was most entertaining. As an act of social activism, it was an abject failure.

    A successful act of social activism is a carefully organized, considered and constructive public performance that is designed to change minds and hearts — think Gandhi & MLK. Yes, after all the ills you have been made to bear, it might have felt nice and very satisfying to piss Bubba off. However, all this kiss-in did, indeed, was piss Bubba off.

    You see, Bubba doesn’t generally have a robust education. He may or may not have a high school diploma. He may or may not have a GED. Whichever the case, he certainly does not know what a “metaphor” is, and since he has no concept of Freud’s psychic defense mechanism of “reaction formation”, he does not understand why seeing two men kiss makes his gut roil. His mind and heart is not changed, but hardened. It has to be, otherwise Bubba’s “Beta” friends might sense weakness; they take their behavioral cues from Bubba, who (for the moment) is the Alpha.

    Bubba’s wife is another story altogether. She may well be capable of putting a voice to the concerns she has long held about some of Bubba’s behaviors, but she dare not voice those concerns. This leaves her with another of Freud’s mechanisms: denial. She gets carefully and largely coiffed, and begins shrieking verses from Leviticus, hoping against hope that it will change her lot in life. Pity her.

    Get everyone together around something where leaders are telling them that their actions are righteous, and poison is brewed.

    Ouch, ouch, ouch and ouch: nobody wins. Everybody fails.

  20. Jim says

    Can anyone even believe Herman Cain? Has his statements about the donations being made by Cathy really true? Just days ago, CFA stated that they would no longer be supporting political issues. What is the truth?

  21. We are Here says

    If the rumor is true – then the tactic to take is – Jesus said whatever you do for the poor, the sick, the imprisoned you do for me, but Mr. Cathy – did you give that windfall to the children in the U.S. who only have one meal day, if they’re lucky? Did you use it to shelter the homeless, many of whom are vets? Did you pay the medical bills of the people who were shot in Aurora?

    No. You used it to pay the inflated salaries of homophobes.

  22. uflyguy says

    We were talking about the Chick Fil-A story at work and only one of the four people there even knew that the issue was their donations and donor list and not their support of “traditional” marriage. This seems to have been lost in the story. None of the people even knew about the FRC or the “Kill The Gays Bill” from Uganda. Why does it seem like the real issue is being glossed over by most of the media to make it seem like the gays are just upset that CFA is against us getting married and not letting people express their views? I think the major Pro Gay groups should be focusing the media back on the real issue of their donation recipients and THEIR agendas.

  23. Billy says

    We need to be more forceful in our quest for equality. EVERY gay person must be involved and play a role. I already got roughly 12 of my friends involved in gay social campaigns. It’s not enough to wait and make change happen. You have to FIGHT to make it happen.

  24. Icebloo says

    Ha Ha ! We won ! When you wheel in Herman Cain to talk about good morals & family values you know we have won ! Asking this slimeball to talk about family values is like asking Adolf Hitler to talk about care for the Jewish community !

  25. TooBoot says

    This would be a good time for someone, oh, a really good bomb maker, to visit Chick fil a stores on Sundays when they’re closed and do some “renovations.”

  26. Joel says

    A black man getting on nationa television dancing in glee over a truck load of money being invested in denying rights to another group…..if you told a gay person this 40 years ago, they wouldn’t have believed you. For shame. But that’s the reality it seems. Some people forget their own history, or want others to live it.

  27. says

    We need to get the narraitive to be about the horrible donations Chik Fil A donates to many anti gay hate groups. So people know where their money is going. We need to shift the conversation and make the media make that point known. Chik Fil A is getting off way too easy for a group that spends sooo much money tanking the rights of others, and their donations are not well exposed on the media.

  28. Josh says

    Optimistic negativity is hilarious. Your assault on chicken seems to have backfired with negative publicity and financial contributions.
    Pretty soon it won’t matter what you say. No one will be listening. Hot summer nights in NYC used to be so much fun.

  29. Truth says

    Can you imagine the reaction if gay politicians went on television all joyous over blacks being denied rights and spending millions to deny their marriages? we wouldn’t hear the end of it…from the gay black community. Asian gays, latino gays, white gays, arab gays, we’d all be thrown under the bus and never hear the end of it.

  30. LookieDo says

    M. Scott Hernandez,
    with a name like hernandez, I’d think you’d be a bit more concerned with how a mob has rallied to spend millions on voting against a groups rights. YOU Hernandez could be next. And when you are, I’m sure you’ll be singing a different tune than the indifferent one you have been on here when it pertains to gay rights.

  31. mike/ says

    i am not one of those people who find ‘conspiracy’ in everything. just the opposite. i don’t think conspiracies actually work because most people can’t keep their mouths shut.

    however, i do wonder if this wasn’t a planned P.R. stunt. that is something that advertising departments are capable of doing.

    what’s to say that Cathy, his P.R. man, and Huckabee didn’t brainstorm an idea like this? has anyone looked at CFA accounting records? could there be a problem?

    oh, wait! they are a privately owned company. they don’t have to share their sales…

  32. SteveAR says

    “Chick-fil-a is wasting its money..marriage equality is just around the corner..thanks to our judical system.

    Posted by: Mark | Aug 3, 2012 7:20:38 PM”

    I think that says what this is about in a nutshell. The people of this country have adamantly refused to sanction same-sex relationships as marriages, as is their right to do. But for the gay lobby, the people must be coerced into believing differently or suffer consequences. This is why I will never recognize same-sex relationships as marriages, just as Mr. Cathy doesn’t. The way the gay lobby are going about it is completely un-American.

  33. says

    @STEVEAR: The Constitution is “completely un-American”? Because depriving gay people of equal protection guarantees is unconstitutional. Thanks for that insight.

    As for Herman Cain–it’s beyond hilarious that this washed-up media whore is accusing gay people of protesting Chick-Fil-A “since they can’t seem to get enough attention.” Good one, Herman!

    What Cain just did–by bragging that Cathy will transfer the “appreciation day” profits to anti-civil-rights organizations–is confirm that anyone who believes in equality should work to deprive CFA of profits and to keep them out of our neighborhoods. Keep investigating their non-discrimination policies.

  34. Alex says

    Chik Fil A lost and lost big. I know several general managers who are LIVID at the president of the company for alienating so many customers (including straight allies) I’ve spoken to these managers personally. The tension within the companies higher ups is not smooth sailing right now. The supporters of Chik Fil A have no idea the issues happening behind the scenes.

    Hope Cathy’s bigotry was worth creating an absolute mess for the company

  35. mmike1969 says

    Ignorance and stupidity breeds more ignorance and stupidity. Did you expect anything decent to come out of crap-fil-a or from this tool Cain?

  36. jamal49 says

    @LONEWOLFEN You’re right about the free speech thing, even though taking corporate profits and donating them to organizations whose express intentions and reasons for existence are to cause harm to gay people and deny them their Constitutional rights comes right up to the edge of that “shouting ‘fire’ in a crowded theatre” standard that we might agree limits such “free speech”.

    Quite frankly, I don’t care what Pres. Obama thinks about all this brouhaha over some mediocre fast-food chicken shack and its teavangelical owner. Mr. Obama’s “take on all this” is irrelevant.

    This whole thing is irrelevant. It causes us to lose focus on the larger issues, like DOMA and ENDA and anyone we’ve read about here at Towleroad in the last few weeks who have been the victims of the virulent homophobic violence that has been rampant in this country.

  37. Jerry6` says

    It is one thing to have Religious beliefs that are hateful of people who do not have the same religious beliefs, but it is another thing to financially support organizations that take action to harm these “Non Believers” physically and/or financially. If Mr. Cathy does not believe that Homosexuality is a genetic condition created by God to control the overpopulation of the human race beyond its capability to feed itself (Which is now self evident), that is his problem; But to wish physical or economic harm to Homosexuals, is not keeping with God’s commandment to “Love thy neighbor as thy self”.

  38. Jerry6` says

    As an aside, in 1970, the President of the company I worked for at the time had the opportunity to enter into a business relationship with Mr Cathy Senior, but chose not to do so. In response to someone asking him “Why not?”, he replied “Because I do not trust the man.” It reminded me of J.P. Morgan saying something like that when asked why he would not do business with
    a certain other business man at that time.

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