The Log Cabin Republicans Are Thrilled

RyanHappySighFrom their website:

"Congressman Paul Ryan is a strong choice for vice president, and his addition to the GOP ticket will help Republican candidates up and down the ballot,” said R. Clarke Cooper, Log Cabin Republicans Executive Director. “As chairman of the House Budget Committee and author of the Republican “path to prosperity” that provided the blueprint for serious spending cuts in this Congress, nobody is more qualified to articulate a conservative economic vision to restore the American economy and stimulate job creation.

At the same time, Congressman Ryan’s 2007 vote in favor of the Employment Nondiscrimination Act and his consistent willingness to engage with Log Cabin on a range of issues speaks to his record as a fair-minded policymaker. Overall, while Log Cabin Republicans have not completed the endorsement process for the 2012 presidential election, this is a choice that all Republicans can be excited about, and which sends a good message about the kind of campaign Governor Romney wants to run, and the kind of president Governor Romney wants to be.

Not to beat the point into the ground, but Ryan did later revoke his support of ENDA. Does that not impact the LCRs opinion of his "fair mindedness"?

Comments

  1. Michael says

    Until the day comes when they can support a Republican candidate who supports who they are as human beings, they’ll always be a bunch of self-loathing faggots to me. I’m not a one-issue voter, but my rights as an American citizen will always trump anything else.

  2. says

    They are thrilled because the equate Republican ism with money.

    Not money for everyone of course, just them — white guys, and their lawn jockey boytoys.
    Solidarity with other LGBTs on issues of import for all LGBTs is anathema to them. They equate money with “Freedom.” And to them “Freedom” means getting enough money to walk all over everyone else. They couldn’t care less about employment and housing discrimination, marriage equality, you name it. Their motto is “I’ve got mine — F***k You!”

  3. Michael says

    Let me add that I’m thrilled as well. When all of those old biddies in Florida get wind of Ryan’s plans for Medicare, Medicade and Social Security, they’ll be forced to vote for, god forbid, the black guy.

  4. says

    i think the “one-issue voter” phrase is sort of hilarious.
    it’s a sound-bite that skirts the specifics of issues. if that “one issue” is, you know, the rights and freedoms and equality of citizens then it…well…is sort of important.

  5. Caliban says

    Of course they’re thrilled. Paul Ryan hates gays (they’re omitting that he later changed his mind on non-discrimination) so he fulfills their masochistic need to be punished for being queer.

    Jeez, just HIRE a guy with leather chaps and a riding crop to beat your azz and get it out of your system!

  6. Mary says

    I understand Winston and Kiwi’s views, but I’m not sure if makes sense to call the entire Republican party “batshit insane.” LCR is an important voice for pro-gay Republicans and is doing what it can to work toward a pro-equality stance (or at least a less ANTI-equality stance) for the Republican party. The electorate may accept the Christian Right or social conservatives being called kooky, but liberals can’t delegitimize ALL the opposition. The impression I’ve been given about Ryan is that he’s a social moderate to liberal who takes official positions that are anti-gay because he needs to do this to appeal to the base. But if his heart is not in it he’ll switch when it first becomes politically safe to do so. This is far better than having someone like Reagan or Santorum whose positions are anti-gay philosphically. The pro-equality cause is a long-term cause.

    And yes, I’m a “log cabinette” so I have a bias toward defending this group. Check out their DVD “Gay Republicans.” It’s great and can really help middle of the road people evolve in their thinking on gay rights.

  7. Alex Parrish says

    GpProud and Log Cabin Repubs have made themselves irrelevant to the LGBT community. I don’t know why they even pretend to support the LGBT community. They are self-hating homophobes. They need to grow-up and understand that “Daddy” doesn’t love them and never will.

  8. says

    The LCR’s are equally irrelevant in the LGBT community and in the Republican party. They’ve had virtually zero influence with anyone so, no, they do not qualify as “important.”

    There is nothing wrong with gay groups that reach out to Republicans (the best ones to do this are non-partisan groups like Freedom to Marry), but that is not really what the LCR’s do: they are apologists for anti-gay Republicans, like Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney, and consistently disingenuous about where the Republican party falls on our issues compared to the Democratic party, where the mainstream position is now marriage equality and ENDA support. There is no way to defend Republicans who support a constitutional amendment to void the legal marriages of same-sex couples unless you consider your human dignity not a priority issue.

    Their priority issue has always been coddling the rich.

  9. Artie_in_Lauderdale says

    @ Mary,

    Not all the opposition is crazy, but to find Republicans who are not, you’ll have to look at the Republicans in the state legislatures in New York and New England who vote in favor of equality. Monopolies and one-party systems are never good things, and I certainly would like to see genuine philosophical competition between the two parties. At the present time, that’s only possible at the state level in New York and New England, which is where the Republicans should be looking for their role models. The national Republican Party is a joke, and the Log Cabin Republicans should be able to understand that, but they don’t. I think that’s the basis of the criticism from Little Kiwi and Winston.

  10. says

    the fact that gay republicans have had ZERO SUCCESS in getting their bigoted party to embrace Equality sort of negates any claims to the “bridge building” they should be doing.

    it’s hard to build bridges when the gay republican identity exists solely to save one’s own @ss by distancing themselves from “stereotypical gays and liberals”, ie gay people with spines.

  11. The Realist says

    1. “LCR is an important voice for pro-gay Republicans and is doing what it can to work toward a pro-equality stance (or at least a less ANTI-equality stance) for the Republican party.”

    2.”The electorate may accept the Christian Right or social conservatives being called kooky, but liberals can’t delegitimize ALL the opposition.”

    3.”The impression I’ve been given about Ryan is that he’s a social moderate to liberal who takes official positions that are anti-gay because he needs to do this to appeal to the base. But if his heart is not in it he’ll switch when it first becomes politically safe to do so.”

    4.”This is far better than having someone like Reagan or Santorum whose positions are anti-gay philosphically. The pro-equality cause is a long-term cause.”

    5.”And yes, I’m a “log cabinette” so I have a bias toward defending this group. Check out their DVD “Gay Republicans.” It’s great and can really help middle of the road people evolve in their thinking on gay rights.”

    Posted by: Mary | Aug 11, 2012 11:06:09 AM

    1. LCR Does no such thing if they support the Republican Party, Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan. You cannot support this ticket and claim to be pro-gay.

    2. Yes We Can. And this ticket proves we can.

    3.Your impression is wrong. Just like all your impressions of what the LCR can accomplish within the Republican Party.If you can support a candidate based on some persevere idea that he would vote pro-gay if it were politically acceptable,the rest of you thought process has no basis in reality.

    4. Know thy enemy. Romney/Ryan is more dangerous than either of the two you referenced.

    5.Done that.All Propaganda and words to support a baseless ideology. Actions, at this point, are all that matter.

  12. say what says

    LOL

    littliwi on the shrooms :-)

    anyway; romney grabbed the third rail……the rail you are never supposed to touch

    Im going to predict a wave election for team dems because the old white people will realize that they love medicare and social security far more than being scared of the black man with the funny name

    + the nuns on the bus are against the immoral paul ryan plan = the nuns always win

    the catholic church couldnt get rid of the vestal virgins so they absorbed them into themselves as nuns….before that rome couldn’t get rid of the cave dwelling primitive virgin worship so absorbed them into themselves as vestal virgins….and pre that well

    The vowed celibate women in one form or another have outlasted every empire, every religion, every god and will always in the end win by simply out surviving whatever they are against……and they are against the immoral ryan budget plan

  13. Matt26 says

    Romney needs all right-wing red-neck born-again voters to support him. For that, this is a good choice. For people, who actually think, this is a good choice for Obama’s campaign.

  14. The Realist says

    HRC scorecard for the last five Congresses:

    0, 0, 0, 10, 0

    Posted by: Stephen Clark | Aug 11, 2012 12:15:59 PM

    You will find about as much support, here, for a HRC run by joe Solmonese,as you will find for LRC/GoProud.

    New President, Chad Griffin, is an improvement.

  15. drumstick says

    Like me, Paul Ryan is the spawn of Reagan and Gen-X. The post baby-boomer generation never saw a social program they liked because Reagan made sure they never had any. The future is bleak indeed. Completely ignorant of the past, Rep. Ryan will drive the country into the 19th century without even knowing it. It’s been a while since we’ve seen poor houses, orphanages and child labourers…Back the future!

  16. Vi Agara says

    Some of you expected a pro gay Republican VP? LOL. Ryan is a good choice. He has a passion to fix the real problems in this country. He wants to have adult conversations about the state of our government.
    The social issue of gay marriage will evolve no matter what party is in office. Vote for someone to get the country back working again, not an incompetent who says things to make you feel good.

  17. says

    gay stuff aside, the reality is that Romney and Ryan’s fiscal plans are an attack on the middle and lower-classes in america, an attack on seniors, an attack on anyone who isn’t wealthy enough to pay for any form of medical treatments, and basically serves the smallest minority of GOP voters

    but since republican voters are the stupidest people in america they’ll vote for him anyway.

  18. RBearSAT says

    Look “cabinettes” or whatever you call yourself. This statement further proves your irrelevance in the fight for LGBT equality. It’s almost like you’re patronizing the Republican Party by ignoring anything Rep. Ryan has done. As noted by Thorp, Ryan rescinded his support of ENDA, demonstrating his lack of support for LGBT equality.

    I understand you have a struggle in your own party but don’t expect sympathy from the rest of us when you pull this kinda stunt. You get respect and support WHEN you stand up for what’s right inside your party.

  19. Sean says

    Wow. Paul Ryan is even more anti-gay than Romney.

    The version of the Federal Marriage Amendment Ryan voted for — TWICE — would force all married same-sex couples to divorce.

    That seems a little extreme, even for a Republican.

  20. Nat says

    “The social issue of gay marriage will evolve no matter what party is in office. ”

    Marriage is a legal issue, not a social issue. There is no legal way forward with Republican majorities.

    I am not a socialist, social democrat, or progressive. I am not entirely unsympathetic to particular Republican positions. But the immediate future for LGBTs – where the Republicans effectively control all three branches of government – is unremittingly hostile, and I will not support the party until it formally adopts a pro-LGBT stance.

    Until then, when the stakes matter I’ll grit my teeth and vote for the Democrats.

  21. john patrick says

    Mary, you say: “The impression I’ve been given about Ryan is that he’s a social moderate to liberal who takes official positions that are anti-gay because he needs to do this to appeal to the base. But if his heart is not in it he’ll switch when it first becomes politically safe to do so. This is far better than having someone like Reagan or Santorum whose positions are anti-gay philosphically. The pro-equality cause is a long-term cause.”

    You have an awful lot of faith in your impressions about Ryan. Right now his record, whatever his reasons, is appalling. Sure he might switch if the wind blows in a different direction. Then again he might not. Till then, I support candidates who have a proven record of support for the LGBT community. I prefer for the “pro-equality cause” to have successes sooner rather than later.

    Also, I am currently benefitting from Social Security and Medicare, as did my parents before me and as do my siblings currently. Ayn Rand, Ryan’s heroine did also, despite her lifetime of praise for self sufficiency. I do not want two rich white men in the presidency and vice presidency who would dismantle those programs for me and my family members and for future generations, and would pad their own wealth and those of other wealthy people with those savings.

  22. Icebloo says

    GRUBS (Gay Republicans) must be on crack. That has to be the reason. How can anyone sane endorse these crazy people ? How can they choose to ignore all the bad they have done to gay people ?

    These people are too insane to vote.

  23. john patrick says

    So Vi Agara, you say “Vote for someone to get the country back working again, not an incompetent who says things to make you feel good.”

    In other words vote for two rich white men who will “get the country back working again” by cutting taxes further for themselves and their rich friends and eviscerating unemployment benefits, Social Security and Medicare, and will dismantle the Affordable Health Care Act, education supports, and other benefits for middle class and the poor? Vote for two rich white men who will raise taxes on the middle class? Vote for two rich men who will continue the Republicant policy of voting against infrastructure programs to put people to work and will cut jobs for more and more teachers and police and fire fighters? Vote for a man for vice president who supported Bush’s tax cuts for the rich and voted to support his wars? A man for vice president whose “adult conversations” are about a plan that doesn’t add up?

    Sorry, Vi Agara. We have been there and have done that. Twice. Once with Reagan and daddy Bush. It took a Democratic president to get us out of that mess. The second time with baby Bush. His policies led us to the greatest economic downturn since the great depression – a downturn from which we are still recovering and from which the Republicants in the Congress refuse to help us get out. We would be a lot further along in the recovery had not the Republicants in Congress voted lock step against everything Obama proposed, so they could keep the economy slow and try to prevent his reelection.

  24. Oz in OK says

    Unfortunately, LCR/GOProud and their supporters will simply ignore any evidence (and there’s a LOT of it) that shows Ryan’s anti-Gay animus. You can bet they’ll be heading to the polls to vote to strengthen their own (and our) second-class status. Unbelievable.

    It’s simple – it’s up to us… ALL of us… to get our asses to the polls in November! Voter apathy has always been the progressive’s Achilles heel – and the results of the 2010 mid-terms should be enough proof of that. We HAVE to get to the polls and vote!

  25. Tarc says

    The LCR must be blinded by the fact that Ryan is a Republican that doesn’t look like a wizened, evil troll. If there is anyone out there that is less electable than Romney, it’s Ryan, whose completely dunderheaded ‘economics’ are a slightly worse version of what crashed the economy in the first place, and who, in his extreme non-briliance, does so by taking brea dout of the mouths of senior citizens. Floriday was one of the only key states Romney had an advantage in, and Ryan just murdered any hope of winning there. He’s a *terrible* candidate… unless you’re Obama.

  26. EchtKultig says

    “The social issue of gay marriage will evolve no matter what party is in office.”

    Ah, the paid republican trolls have arrived. Put on your rain gear. If Romney is elected, he will stack the Supreme court with young Mormons and other ultra-right wingers. Believe me, Scalia is anxious to get on the 50K a pop lecture circuit, full-time, so he can help send his 20(?) grandkids to Pepperdine or Stanford. (Lucky for him his gay son became a priest, instead of taking the marry-a-good-ole-beard option, so that’s one less set of mouths to feed) He and probably Thomas would ready their departure the minute Romney was sworn in.
    A Romney stacked SCOTUS means gay rights in the US will “evolve” back to the 1930s.

  27. Mary says

    David, Mary is my real name (although I’m flattered at the person here who seems to think I’m Maggie Gallagher as she is an excellent writer.) I never said the Republicans were “pro-gay.” Far from it, they are a disaster on gay-rights issues. My point is that LCR and GOProud are slowly giving some legitimacy to the idea of a pro-equality Republican party and THIS long-term goals is why they should exist. I was not arguing that gays should vote for Romney.

    As for winning, gay marriage is supported by (maybe) half the nation right now. 6 states have it legalized. And it has been approved in public referendum by not even ONE state…..yet. Let’s not count our (non-Chick-Fil-A) chickens before they hatch. Think ERA in the 1970’s and you’ll see what could happen to the gay marriage cause.

    As for “scrambling around” I’m not sure what you mean. I switched from an anti_SSM position to a marriage equality one in May of this year and joined Log Cabin.

  28. Stephen Clark says

    @ “Vi Agara,” gay rights consist of more than just marriage equality. Ryan’s position on marriage equality–repeated support for a federal constitutional ban–is outrageous enough. But he didn’t get that 0-0-0-10-0 HRC score over the last decade by just opposing marriage equality. He has opposed EVERYTHING, despite representing a moderate congressional district.

    And the *constitutional* issue of marriage equality will not evolve “no matter who” is appointing Supreme Court justices. Vote for someone to make the Court more fair-minded Court, not a bigot-coddling tool of the far right.

  29. says

    “My point is that LCR and GOProud are slowly giving some legitimacy to the idea of a pro-equality Republican party and THIS long-term goals is why they should exist.”

    But, Mary, the problem is they are doing no such thing. GOProud doesn’t care about gay rights at all, and the LCR’s only care enough to ineffectually take pro-gay positions while giving cover to their anti-gay party and its leaders and absurdly trying to cast the Democrats as the anti-gay demons. Their support of Paul Ryan a case in point. It’s ridiculous. They have virtually no influence in the Republican party and no respect among sane gay people.

    The people who have successfully reached out to the minority of moderate Republicans have been from nonpartisan groups lobbying on specific issues.

  30. andrew says

    I don’t believe that “republicans are the stupidest people in America” as one ranter posted. However, I don’t understand how any LGBT person could affiliate with the republican party.

  31. StillMarriedinCA says

    Did the Loggers just conveniently forget to look up his “no” votes on repealing DADT and passing hate crimes legislation? Wasn’t DADT repeal THEIR big victory?? Why would they praise ANYONE who voted against it? They have zero integrity and zero credibility.

  32. SeanR says

    We now know what sort of logs the Log Cabin boys are talking about, the kind you usually flush down the loo… LCRepublicans are a disgrace and full of cac to support a candidate(s) who hate us and won’t support equality.

  33. Diogenes Arktos says

    Although the LCR website does not support this, there is the view that Lincoln was chosen as their mascot because he was in a gay relationship. Of course, this has received the rebuke that it is inappropriate to use 20th/21st century sensibilities to evaluate 19th century behavior. Why doesn’t this latter group find it hypocritical when they apply 20th/21st sensibilities to the Old Testament?

  34. Sam Molloy says

    Obama is going to lose the election. Get with the program and help get the Party of Limited Government to limit their interference with our acceptance. If you hang on to the failed economic policies of the Democrats we all lose with them.

  35. ELI says

    @Sam Molloy
    LOL
    The Republicans are NOT the “Party of Limited Government”.
    They are the party that needs nanny state government to protect their marriages.Do you not remember who has been behind all of those constitution amendments?

  36. GeorgeM says

    Sam that is the dumbest comment going. Limited goverment, the republican party? LOL
    The republican party is the most intrusive group going. Grow up and open your eyes

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