Baltimore Ravens’ Matt Birk Wants to Keep Marriage from Gays

Matt Birk, a center for the Baltimore Ravens (Brendon Ayanbadejo's team) and a former player for the Minnesota Vikings (Chris Kluwe's team) wants people to know that he doesn't share their pro-equality views, penning an op-ed in the Star Tribune calling for voters to protect marriage, and noting that "not all NFL players think redefining marriage is a good thing."

BirkSays Birk, in part:

Same-sex unions may not affect my marriage specifically, but it will affect my children — the next generation. Ideas have consequences, and laws shape culture. Marriage redefinition will affect the broader well-being of children and the welfare of society. As a Christian and a citizen, I am compelled to care about both.

I am speaking out on this issue because it is far too important to remain silent. People who are simply acknowledging the basic reality of marriage between one man and one woman are being labeled as "bigots" and "homophobic." Aren't we past that as a society?

Don't we all have family members and friends whom we love who have same-sex attraction? Attempting to silence those who may disagree with you is always un-American, but especially when it is through name-calling, it has no place in respectful conversation.

A defense of marriage is not meant as an offense to any person or group. All people should be afforded their inalienable American freedoms. There is no opposition between providing basic human rights to everyone and preserving marriage as the sacred union of one man and one woman.

Read Birk's full piece here.

Comments

  1. Fenrox says

    Good, Thank you Matt Birk.

    Now let me tell you what you just did. You just attacked a whole hell of a lot of people. Your attack was with words and opinions, A lot of people feel like words and opinions don’t count as attacks, they are wrong. While it is surely one of the weaker ways to attack, it is an attack none the less.

    So You attack gay people as being unfit for your children to be aware of. Marriage is in no way sacred, your argument is one where you frame two things subjectively in response to your feelings.

    Basically I want it to be clear that you took an assumption, a risk and a shot at us. You will be attacked back, by some of the people affected by your actions, other will do nothing. Later you will regret that this has happened, if your smart, you will regret your actions that brought this all about.

    Anyway, I just want to thank you for putting it on the internet.

  2. Sanderson says

    I don’t get how you say something like this will matter to his children and that ideas have effect, but fail to actually explain, at all, how it affects his children or society? Until you actually make an argument, keep your mouth shut.

  3. says

    He is a hypocrite for wanting all people to have basic human freedoms but not for same-sex marriage. Since this is against his religion, he wants it be the law of the land, and to hell with non-Christians. Does he not know Christ’s teaching of render to God what is God’s and to Cesar what is Cesar’s?

  4. Kevin says

    Did Maggie Gallagher help him write this? It has all of the basic NOM talking points. What a puppet.

  5. MikeBoston says

    We aren’t discussing human rights. We are not talking ‘sacred’ (ie., church related) rites. We are talking civil marriage equality – which is one of those inalienable rights that heteros enjoy that is denied to a minority.

    Perhaps he has forgotten to where his helmet while playing.

  6. Cadence says

    He also fails to realize that marriage inequality effects the relationships of same sex couples, as well as the children and other family members of same sex couples. Unlike Mr. Birk, there are people who can produce valid evidence of how marriage discrimination has negatively impacted their lives.

  7. paul says

    apparently he didn’t get the memo that the younger generation is COOL with Marriage Equality

  8. Rich F. says

    Anyone who prefaces a thesis with “as a Christian” when engaged in civil debate in a secular society deserves to be smacked on the nose with a rolled-up newspaper.

  9. MikeSin says

    ..but it’s for the children. THE CHILDREN! Obviously gay children don’t factor in Mr. Birk’s equation. It always amuses me when bigots cry foul when they are called out on their intolerance, and as usual, they hide behind religion to justify their indignation. No one is silencing you chief, keep the hits coming…

  10. says

    that’s because you are bigots. sorry, sugar.

    aren’t we “past this as a society”? past what? bigotry?

    apparently not, but we should be. you can’t promote bigotry and discrimination and then get upset when you get called a bigot.

    it’s like i said to my embarrassing extended family members in Michigan: “I’ll stop calling you racists when you stop calling President Obama a Kenyan-born socialist who wants to destroy america because he’s also a secret Muslim.”

    the thing idiots like Birk dont’ understand is that just because the same meaningless buzz-terms have been repeated by the conservative right all the time doesn’t mean those terms mean ANYTHING.

    lgbt couples marrying in no way affects the marriages of non-LGBT couples. this is empirically true.

  11. Rick says

    “Marriage redefinition will affect the broader well-being of children and the welfare of society”

    “There is no opposition between providing basic human rights to everyone and preserving marriage as the sacred union of one man and one woman.”

    Both of these statements would have been perfectly legitimate 50 years ago.

    The problem is that, over the last 50 years, under feminist influence, this society has largely destroyed the intact nuclear family that was once the building block of society.

    Nowadays, most children grow up in either a) a household from which the father has always been absent, b) a household from which one parent–again, usually the father–is absent due to divorce, or c) a household from which both parents are usually absent because both are working……all of which are horrible environments for children and which is evident in the horrible state of well-being of children, health-wise, education-wise, ethics-wise, and otherwise.

    Just for once, I would like to see a straight man stand up to feminists and correctly point a finger at them for the sorry state of the family and then do something about it…..but, instead, we get this kind of scapegoating.

  12. RyanInWyo (formerly RyanInSacto) says

    Rick, have you talked to a therapist yet about whatever it was that went so horribly wrong between you and your mother?

  13. Strepsi says

    @LITTLEKIWI your post is right on. I can’t STAND this meme of “aren’t we past name calling and slandering those who disagree as bigots” Not when the accurate English word for what you are in denying a minority equality is “bigot”.

    @STEVE Yes, you;re right it’s self-contradicting word salad. Because imagine another minority and situation there, the hypocrisy would leap out. Like I remember the 1970’s: “Defense of our traditional neighborhoods is not meant as any offense to black people, and of course all people deserve their inalienable rights. It’s just that this neighborhood is special, so we can’t have any blacks IN it.”

  14. CMLion says

    Wait… gays can’t marry but gingers can? I’m not bigoted at all, because I have “many friends who are gingers” so I can’t be a bigot. Won’t anyone think of the children?

  15. MS says

    Funny guy. He says we all love people who have same-sex attraction. Just not enough to consider them equals under the law. And he wonders why people get angry at the homophobes who say this stuff, but don’t want to have to be scrutinized by others. Stop hiding behind religion and just come out and say you’re a bigot. Gays would stop bothering you for it if you left us alone and kept your hate in your own church.

  16. Bill says

    STFU! He blew it when he tossed “Christian” in there. I don’t give a rat’s a$$ about his religion and I’m not trying to be part of his crummy religion. I just want the same rights and responsibilities as he gets.

  17. SFshawn says

    It’s just sad and pathetic to watch a grown man denigrate his fellow humans and then claim to be a “christian”. Your an ugly bigot and hater Mr. Birk and unless you have something worthwhile to contribute to the discussion you really should STFU!

  18. says

    Just for once, Rick, I would like to see you stand up to be counted.

    I have a straight father who stands up, every day, to be an advocate for the LGBT Community.

    And he’s not standing up to ‘feminists’, because feminists aren’t the problem. The problem(s) are anti-gay bigots. This is why we LGBT people, and our Allies, need to stand up to be counted, and to raise our voices.

    http://littlekiwilovesbauhaus.blogspot.ca/2011/04/fathers-message.html

    There. Now, Rick, will you provide the URL where you can show us all the incredible advocacy and bravery you exhibit in your daily life as a strong masculine empowered openly-gay man?

    Or is this just another Monday, where you come online to anonymously complain about “feminists” because you don’t have the balls to be a real man and do real work in this world?

    Just curious. 😉

  19. Andrew K says

    his argument makes no logical sense. its merely an expression of fear about the consequences of marriage equality. the fact that his fear has not been borne out in places that have marriage equality does not help his case, either.

    fear of others based on no facts is bigotry, hatred, xenophobia, or ignorance. take your pick, matt.

  20. Hank says

    Wow – I would think from the tone of this that you don’t actually have any family member or friends that are gay/lesbian – because your religion wouldn’t allow you to have them near your children. You would then be forced to explain to your children that gay people actually exist – that they are your family and friends.

    As a christian – you have a problem separating civil marriage and what you feel is your sacrament of marriage. These are two different things – where did you get your marriage License? You were married by the State – otherwise your religious ceremony wouldn’t be valid by the law of the land. A very convenient omission.

    If you do not wish to be called a bigot – then don’t be one. That is your choice! This has gone way past an “agree to disagree” moment. We’re talking about basic rights here and your discrimination is nothing more than animus – based on your ego and ignorance – perpetuated by your “christian” values.

    If you were so concerned over the salvation of marriage – look with in at the heterosexual divorce rate. If you are concerned with pro-creation – check the your marriage certificate and see if it has a stipulation about min # of children required. I think the Supreme Court already upheld that children or pro-creation is not a requirement of marriage.

    And one last thing – please do your homework on the “tradition” of marriage. Biblical as well as civil.

    And just to be clear – you sir are a bigot.

  21. Jeff says

    You know, he’s right. Let’s keep “marriage” between a man and a woman. And, let’s redraft the law so that there is not a single benefit that any other American can’t have. Let everybody have to fend for themselves when they want to be visited by their loved ones in the hospital, etc. I wonder how “sacred” marriage will seem once it’s not accompanied by all of the material and quality-of-life benefits.

  22. says

    That’s it everyone. He brought up the “it’s for the kids!” defense. Let’s stop fighting for equal rights and go home. If we keep trying to earn the same civil rights as everyone else, it’ll harm Matt Birk’s kids….somehow.

    I don’t want to have his kids’ blood on my hands just because I wanted laws to stop getting fired or evicted for being gay. For god’s sakes, the DADT repeal nearly crippled his kids for life! Won’t somebody please think of Matt Birk’s children?

  23. Kyle says

    He says he’s thinking of his children, but apparently he’s not doing that too well. When they are grown and see that (i) he was/is a bigot and (ii) was stupid enough to have his bigotry on display for all the world to see, they’ll be affected by gay marriage alright. They’ll be mortified that their father was one of those who thought they could/should stop it.

  24. Rick says

    OK, it is a waste of time, but here is what you folks just don’t understand.

    This man is not making a rational argument–I just demonstrated why. But none of you are making rational arguments either.

    Because you ALL are emotional slaves to women, in one way or another, which is the source of all men’s problems, regardless of sexual orientation. And because of that, neither you nor they can face the actual facts.

    Straight men cannot face the actual facts because their emotional dependence on women (due to their adherence to a homophobic male culture that forces them to keep their emotional distance from other men) prevents them from confronting women over the effects that their behavior is having on children and on society in general. They are in a weak social position, so instead they–in accordance with their culture–attack male intimacy instead (which, in their minds, is what “gay” represents).

    None of you can face the facts, either, however, because your lack of male identity (also driven by adherence to a homophobic culture) has alienated you from other men and caused you to think of them as enemies and women as friends…..and you therefore will not acknowledge the disastrous effects that the breakdown of the family has had due to changes feminism has brought about……because you are as dependent on women emotionally–albeit in a different way–as straight men are……..and you therefore don’t make the RIGHT arguments about the role of marriage in a properly-functioning society, instead choosing to scream about your “rights” when marriage is not a “right” at all……

    The solution to all this is to re-vamp the male culture in such a way that women are not at the center of the lives of BOTH gay men and straight men, but instead, you get the kind of stupidity on display on both sides here.

  25. says

    prove it, Rick.

    provide the URL where you SHOW US ALL this example you keep anonymously talking about.

    show us. yourself. and this example you claim to lead.

    URL. provide the proof. stand up to be counted.

    that you can’t do this only proves me right, and you wrong. every day.

    http://littlekiwilovesbauhaus.blogspot.ca/2011/04/fathers-message.html

    there’s my straight dad for ya.

    you know, Rick, you’re a sad troll and you probably should off yourself. it’s not like you’d be missed.

  26. John Bisceglia says

    I do think we as a community, myself included, have used the words “bigots” and “homophobes” when it could more accurately be described as pure and simple faith-based ignorance, the same ignorance that believes the world was created 6,000 years ago and ancient texts should be understood word-for-word instead of interpreting the nuance of oral traditions.

  27. Francis says

    Marriage equality will affect children—-in a positive way. Non-heterosexual children in particular. In showing youth that same-sex are equally as valid, loving and legitimate.

    THAT is what people like Matt Birk are scared of. They are THREATENED by the idea of same-sex relationships being recognized as equally valid. If they are, their irrational superiority complex goes away. And anti-gays can’t deal with that.

    Heterosexism. A word that isn’t used nearly enough. But a word that very much applies here.

  28. Oz in OK says

    “A defense of marriage is not meant as an offense to any person or group.” Oh what a bunch of utter BS. OF COURSE IT’S OFFENSIVE! He’s making accusations against us that we are somehow not ‘fit’ for marriage, that somehow we don’t have children, etc. etc. etc.

    The list of offenses in this article is a mile long.

  29. Rick says

    “THAT is what people like Matt Birk are scared of. They are THREATENED by the idea of same-sex relationships being recognized as equally valid. If they are, their irrational superiority complex goes away. And anti-gays can’t deal with that.”

    No. Why would they be “threatened” by that when “gays” consist of only 3% of the population?

    Why do they need a “superiority complex” when they are 97% of the population and “gays” are only 3% of the population?

    You see what I mean? None of you are making arguments that are any more rational than the arguments the other side is making.

    No, what Birk and others like him are REALLY threattned by is, ironically, the same thing that most of YOU are threatened by–namely, a revamped male culture in which women are no longer at the center of men’s universes and men’s emotional attachments are primarily to each other rather than to women.

    But you talk right past each other, people like Birk and other straight men imprisoned in a homophobic culture that insists that men devote themselves to women in the form of “romantic love” and absolute sexual monogamy, both of which are totally unnnatural behaviors that lead to misery for the men that engage in them………while YOU are imprisoned in a culture of effeminacy that idolizes women and reveres them in such a way that they are at the center of your universe as well, which prevents you from having any kind of normal, loving friendship or relationship with another man…..ergo the social dysfunction so apparent in gay male life.

  30. RHR IN TN says

    Matt Birk is an example of the real danger to our society. This is in no way meant to be offensive to Matt Birk. :)

  31. RyanInWyo (formerly RyanInSacto) says

    Can anyone here refer Rick to a good therapist to deal with his mommy issues?

  32. Francis says

    Matt Birk is a bigot. Being against the legal and social rights of a legal minority group solely because that group is gay or b/c of PERSONAL individual beliefs is bigotry.

    What people like Matt Birk want is a celebration of their heterosexuality. Supporting homosexuality goes against that. They whine when they are correctly called bigots b/c their EGOS are bruised. People like Birk truly believe they’re better than us. He can’t handle living in a world where that isn’t the case.

    Matt Birk is a loser. Hopefully his teammate Brendon Ayanbadejo educates this ignorant man.

  33. Steve says

    I still dont get it. Why dont people fight with the fact that with “Marriage” comes 1,000+ rights not afforded to “non married” couples. I don’t care what he thinks, nor does he care about what I think. But discrimination is giving rights to some citizens and not others. Why doesn’t this point get argued more? Because in the world of “I think, you think” nobody wins because we all stick to our opinions, which we have a right to.

  34. Gary says

    ugh…Christians need to get it through their thick heads that we are not living in a theocracy.

  35. Rick says

    “What people like Matt Birk want is a celebration of their heterosexuality”

    Meaning what, Francis? What about all the women who love “romantic” plot lines in movies and TV shows (and who don’t like seeing openly gay male actors in such roles)? Are they not “celebrating heterosexuality?”

    What is the difference?

  36. Diogenes Arktos says

    Rick’s tirades on feminism just echo what I read of the Religious Right when they’ve decided to lay off LGBT issues for awhile.

  37. Rick says

    What you women-worshipping lefists don’t realize is that straight women are selfish and will not help you. My mother was a selfish woman who never gave me time alone with my father, so I had to dress up in drag and turn the lights down real low if i wanted to perform fellatio on him. And that’s why I hate women.

  38. Francis says

    Yes, Rick, I am imprisoned mentally, psychologically warped due to the depraved lifestyle I lead where I worship female starlets and pop icons like Christ Himself. You’re right again, oh wise one. Truly impressed how you know SO much about me and others even when you have not once yet met me in person.

  39. Rick says

    @DIOGENES ARKTOS

    You said:

    “Rick’s tirades on feminism just echo what I read of the Religious Right when they’ve decided to lay off LGBT issues for awhile”

    Really? I just argued AGAINST the idea of “romantic love” between a man and a woman and AGAINST the idea of sexual monogamy, both of which are sacrosanct to the Religious Right and both of which I, on the contrary, consider to be unnatural and the cause of much misery in men’s lives.

    But again, you won’t let yourself go there because of YOUR OWN emotional attachment to women, will you? Again, you and they are both so wedded to women emotionally that you just represent two sides of the same tarnished coin, whether you realize it or not……

  40. BABH says

    “There is no opposition between providing basic human rights to everyone and preserving marriage as the sacred union of one man and one woman.”

    This is actually true, but not in the way he thinks. We can have full civil marriage equality for everyone, and his church can still preserve whatever restrictive definition of “sacred” marriage they want.

  41. sparks says

    At the risk of offending some, let me paraphrase what Matt is saying: “How dare you call us racists, you dumb n*****.”

    Fox News started this crap of bigots crying fowl over being called bigots, and teabaggers picked up on it and ran with it.

  42. Rick says

    The real source of my hatred is very much akin to anti-gay republican’s hatred of gays. Basically, I suffer from what is known as “Vagina Envy”

    I don’t wish I had a vagina, I wish that I *was* a vagina.

    A big floppity vagina. The fact that I talk about the need for masculinity without providing my own personal example of it is testament to this. I’m as masculine as Ted Haggard is heterosexual.

  43. Rick says

    Proof is for femmes. Everyone knows that truly masculine gay men are the ones who come onto the internet every day to anonymously complain about effeminate gay males and women and liberals.

    Everyone knows that. It’s the definition of masculinity – to denigrate effeminate males without showing an example of the masculine man that I tell you that I am.

  44. LiamB says

    Because the simple fact, Mathmajor, is that Rick has no proof. Contrary to the pathetic troll, the ‘nuclear family’ isn’t the foundation of society. Never was, and never will be. Unfortunately, much like the Republicans he worships, facts don’t mean much to him.

  45. says

    “Don’t we all have family members and friends whom we love who have same sex attraction…..”

    First, you make same sex attraction sound an affliction !

    Second, your rant sounds peculiarly like ‘Some of my best friends are gay’.

    Third, the phrase “unAmerican” is actually meaningless; just like the phrase “American Exceptionalism”….these are only invented sound-bite bons mots…..they may make you feel nice and warm but they are nonsense.

    Fourth, I have never read a greater number of cliches strung together to sound as if they mean something; ” Well Being of children/welfare of society/compelled to care/inalienable American freedoms…….as if no where else had freedoms…..or as if American freedom is any different to the rest of the world. Grow up !

    Just because you string this kind of garbage into a numbing banal monologue doesn’t excuse your Christian self righteous zeal to make everyone conform to what you want and approve of. And yes that self obsessed intolerance of others rights to the same status does make you one big bigot.

  46. Rick says

    “Contrary to the pathetic troll, the ‘nuclear family’ isn’t the foundation of society”

    Then why are you trying so hard to gain the right to marry and adopt and/or have surrogate children (i.e. to form a nuclear family) and why are you arguing so vociferously that children being raised by two same-sex spouses in such a marriage will be just as well off as children being raised by an opposite-sex couple?

    Yet again, tying yourselves in knots and making yourselves look ridiculous…..because your emotional weddedness to women forces you into that situation…..

  47. MCnNYC says

    Our government and Civil Laws have absolutely NO business (to use his own words) in “preserving marriage as the SACRED union of one man and one woman.”

  48. AJ says

    This tactic of trying to be “nice” about it is more infuriating than calling me a f@g and saying I don’t deserve the same rights. If you’re gonna punch me in the nose HAVE AT IT. But dot punch me in the nose and wrig your hands about how much you believe I shouldn’t be punched in the nose! Moron!

  49. Wbnyc says

    What I found interesting was that most of the comments in the newspaper where the op-Ed originally ran were VERY pro-gay.

  50. i could go on, but I won't says

    If ever there was a cry for better helmets in football and less head trauma this was it.

  51. Rick says

    I’ve been using tampons in my anus for the last few weeks, because I like feeling like a young girl, but it’s had an adverse side-effect in that I find my anus extremely dry these days. It makes bowel movements more painful than usual. Does anyone have any helpful tips on how to maintain anal moisture while still allowing me to use tampons so I can feel like a real live girl?

  52. says

    Wait…..so Birk is saying that those gay couples marrying will affect “his children.”

    So, he’s pretty sure his children are straight?

    What if one of more of his children is gay? He seems rather determined to drive ’em to end their lives. Nice, Christian.

  53. MCnNYC says

    Another note:
    If he wants to avoid labels of “bigot” and “homophobic” in the “discussion” of views on “marriage….how about we avoid labels of “Christian” in defending your own opinion Mr. Birk.

  54. candideinnc says

    “But, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!” I am gay and have two wonderful kids. I will stack my successful, happy children up against yours any day. They will tell you that gay parents can be every bit as good as straight ones.

    Finally, when people promote discrimination against gays, the proper word for those people is “bigot.” Sorry you find it offensive. I find your bigotry offensive.

  55. Hut Hut says

    Isn’t it kind of ironic that a man who makes his living by bending over and letting another man put his hands up under his crotch would oppose equality? Hypocritical even?

    Here’s a man who repeatedly slams his body into other men, and gets paid to let other man slam their bodies into men, and then roll around on the ground together in a testosterone-drenched display of aggressive homo-eroticism; a man who has showered promiscuously with scores of other naked men during the course of his career ….and he opposes two persons of the same having legal recognition for conducting personal business together.

    Looks like the inevitable dementia has started a little early for Birk.

  56. sosadaboutewan says

    Yes, Rick, it’s all the fault of that monstrous regiment of feminists stealing your manhood from you…is your self-hating, pity party invitation-only or can anyone join in?

  57. says

    Matt Birk has no idea what he’s talking about. He has gotten very good at disguising bigotry as rational debate. Yes, Mr. Birk – this about the children. The gay children who will grow up and not think lesser of themselves, that they one day can build a life with the person they love and are attracted to. You claim that anyone who disagrees with your thinly veiled bigotry is a “name caller” and “aren’t we past that?” One could ask the same of you, Mr. Birk – aren’t we past the generalizations? Aren’t we past the discrimination? Aren’t we as a society past the demonization of an entire minority group? Shouldn’t ALL Americans have the opportunity at the American dream – including, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness? To suggest that those aspirations and dreams are for some but not for all, is nothing short of outrageous, and has NO PLACE in respectable debate.
    Yes, Mr. Birk – please think of the children. Think of the ones who may be tempted to commit suicide due to the antiquated and bigoted views of someone like yourself, who is in a position of influence, God forbid.
    If you were truly pro-marriage, you’d be doing all that you could do to protect and encourage marriage for ALL families – not just the ones that resemble yours.

  58. Michael says

    Why is it when are trying to explain their hate and bigotry they always assume if they drop “as a Christian” they’ll get a free pass and everything will be excused.

    What’s most annoying is God is NOT on their side.

  59. Rob says

    Hey dumb football player. You didn’t write this the catholic church did. Do you realize that their are 16,000,000 gay people in the U.S. That’s amount is larger than the 5th largest state’s population. You just said we aren’t good enough to 16,000,000 people. What a dumb ass.

  60. Jakeinlove says

    Laws don’t shape culture. Evolution shapes culture and eventually it’s laws. We’re evolving, learning, and deciding the things we once knew aren’t necessarily so.

    You may not be affected Mr. Birk but as you suggest possibly future generations will be. They will already have the understanding that there are more important issues than human nature.

  61. Randy says

    “Aren’t we past that as a society?”

    Thankfully, no. You’re a bigot Matt Birk. That’s for you to fix, not us.

  62. Geoff says

    It has always been incomprehensible to me that Christians(in particular)seem to think this is their country to shape as they see fit. It is profoundly aggressive-stupidity and it needs to end. The United States of America is a secular land – that lets all its people worship as they choose…or not at all (depending). Mr. Birk is an idiot to be so public with his ignorance.

  63. interlessted says

    I think Rick is hilarious. Without realizing that he’s basically leather man bait with that admission of total disdain/ignorance re:”.while YOU are imprisoned in a culture of effeminacy that idolizes women and reveres them in such a way that they are at the center of your universe”, he’ll go on to unconsciously search for a Daddy until he gets over momma smacking his little pee pee. The damage of your butchness isn’t really that tough to get over Rick, the majority of us gay men have been there. Shake it off, buddy. The drag queens don’t socially engineer anything but a party at a dance club, stupid.

  64. JT says

    It doesn’t matter whether you mean to demean an entire swath of people, you brow-ridged Neanderthal, the fact of the matter is that you did. How about acknowledging that same-sex couples, even married couples, actually do exist in valid and legal relationships?

  65. Robert K. says

    “The actual facts?” Rick, you certainly don’t know the difference between objective facts and subjective opinions. Facts are backed up by research and studies. But that’s not what you do. You toss out vague, non-provable generalizations and expect them to be accepted as “facts.” Your generalizations don’t even line up with my own life experiences as a gay man, and I doubt that any other gay man would agree with your fatuous viewpoints either.

    You sound like a college student who just took a gender-studies class and was turned off by the professor.

    And you’re still extremely stupid.

  66. Robert K. says

    “The actual facts?” Rick, you certainly don’t know the difference between objective facts and subjective opinions. Facts are backed up by research and studies. But that’s not what you do. You toss out vague, non-provable generalizations and expect them to be accepted as “facts.” Your generalizations don’t even line up with my own life experiences as a gay man, and I doubt that any other gay man would agree with your fatuous viewpoints either.

    You sound like a college student who just took a gender-studies class and was turned off by the professor.

    And you’re still extremely stupid.

  67. Robert K. says

    “The actual facts?” Rick, you certainly don’t know the difference between objective facts and subjective opinions. Facts are backed up by research and studies. But that’s not what you do. You toss out vague, non-provable generalizations and expect them to be accepted as “facts.” Your generalizations don’t even line up with my own life experiences as a gay man, and I doubt that any other gay man would agree with your fatuous viewpoints either.

    You sound like a college student who just took a gender-studies class and was turned off by the professor.

    And you’re still extremely stupid.

  68. Robert K. says

    “The actual facts?” Rick, you certainly don’t know the difference between objective facts and subjective opinions. Facts are backed up by research and studies. But that’s not what you do. You toss out vague, non-provable generalizations and expect them to be accepted as “facts.” Your generalizations don’t even line up with my own life experiences as a gay man, and I doubt that any other gay man would agree with your fatuous viewpoints either.

    You sound like a college student who just took a gender-studies class and was turned off by the professor.

    And you’re still extremely stupid.

  69. Robert K. says

    “The actual facts?” Rick, you certainly don’t know the difference between objective facts and subjective opinions. Facts are backed up by research and studies. But that’s not what you do. You toss out vague, non-provable generalizations and expect them to be accepted as “facts.” Your generalizations don’t even line up with my own life experiences as a gay man, and I doubt that any other gay man would agree with your fatuous viewpoints either.

    You sound like a college student who just took a gender-studies class and was turned off by the professor.

    And you’re still extremely stupid.

  70. scott says

    yeah and likewise.. I don’t HATE Christians.. I just don’t think they should be allowed to marry because their relationships aren’t worthy of that definition..

  71. CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON says

    “GLENN,”

    IF Chris Kluwe HAS SENSE, HE WILL RESPECT Mr. Birk’s VIEWS. Mr. Kluwe WOULD BE AN EVEN BIGGER FOOL TO CREATE TENSION IN THE LOCKER ROOM.

    CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

  72. CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON says

    “GLENN,”

    IF Chris Kluwe HAS SENSE, HE WILL RESPECT Mr. Birk’s VIEWS. Mr. Kluwe WOULD BE AN EVEN BIGGER FOOL TO CREATE TENSION IN THE LOCKER ROOM.

    CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

  73. Nino says

    Mr. Birk, If we’re all free, that means all. So you don’t get to define marriage for me — according to your standards, Christian or otherwise. By your own logic, you fall.

  74. BrokebackBob says

    Um, breaking news question, why are we paying any attention to an ignorant
    roided-up (check the skin), football player!!!?? He is the past, the straight
    players in all sports who support equality for all are the future, we should be
    be giving them a big social media hug so that others will see that it’s a good
    thing to come out of the “I support equality” closet. Don’t pay attention to the
    haters, support our supporters instead. Like President Obama says: Don’t boo, VOTE!!

    Full story here: http://www.queerty.com/matt-birk-gay-marriage-opposition-20121001/#ixzz287bxW2FN

  75. shawnthesheep says

    Inalienable American freedoms apparently don’t extend to equal protection under the law.

  76. radioredrafts says

    OK, just in case you read this Mark, we LGBT US citizens, obviously, have the same rights to the same freedoms as you. Keeping people out of your sacred club for who they are is one thing, but denying us our rights is another, and definitely unAmerican. We disagree with you, and we are American. We have families, and we are American. We are different than you, and we are American. And as real Americans, we all have the same civil rights that Americans do, to everything American, and that includes an American marriage. We support ALL families, including yours. Please don’t work to deny us our American rights.

  77. Don says

    1. “Being a Christian” – I am a gay Christian and my church/faith supports marriage equality. Since when, in this country, does his religion trump my religion. He claims he is for fundamental rights and equality for all people, then maybe he should begin with the 1st Amendment which ensures my religious rights as much as his.

    2. “Children” – I can’t even begin to say how much I hate the “children” propaganda. Children learn bigotry and hatred at home and from their peers. The only argument I can possibly think of is that he thinks gay parents will somehow turn heterosexual children gay. In this day and age he should be well aware that being gay is not some disease nor is it something someone can be persuaded into being. Either one is or one is not.

    3. “Not bigoted or hateful” – Sorry, but you don’t a free pass because you don’t feel you are a bigot or hateful. The Nazis didn’t feel they were bigoted or hateful towards the Jews, the KKK didn’t feel like they were being bigoted or hateful towards African-Americans, and even today, rabid Fundamentalist Christians don’t feel they are being bigoted or hateful towards Muslims while burning their Holy book. You say everyone should be equal and afforded the same rights while also espousing that only heterosexuals are worthy of marriage is, if nothing else, a discriminatory idea.

  78. JT says

    Bigotry wrapped up in religion is still bigotry. Matt is an overpaid, idiotic, un-Christian-like bigot.I feel sorry for his wife and children.

  79. Diogenes Arktos says

    For the children’s sake…

    From having read his full op-ed, he leaves out two important classes of children: those who are adopted and those who are in foster care.

  80. dcinsider says

    Odd opinion from a guy who makes a living bending over and letting another man place his hands on his genitals.

  81. CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON says

    “CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON, POWER BOTTOM,”

    I AM A TOP, BUT, YOU CAN BOTTOM FOR ME – THAT IS, IF YOU CAN TAKE A DARK SHAFT!

    CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

  82. hal 65432 says

    Matt Birk was always an arrogant jerk in Minnesota. He was a nauseating media darling
    that could do no wrong and thought he was above everyone because he went to Harvard. Big damn deal. His head has gotten so big that now he dishes out financial advice and decides who has the right to get married. Now he reires and we’re supposed to get all emotional about an overrated career of a guy who spent 15 years shoving a ball between his legs. For the record i’m straight.