1. jason says

    What is Obama going to do about gay marriage? Nothing as far as I’m concerned. Obama has done nothing and will do nothing, mark my words.

    Obama is one of these guys who says symbolic things to get you to vote for him. Once he’s in power, he does virtually nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing.

  2. ZENO says

    (ignoring Jason) So why is Kelly Clarkson still a “Republican at heart” if she doesn’t like Romney’s position on same-sex marriage? She’s probably going to have to wait a while for a Republican presidential candidate who DOES support it. Sounds like an ill-informed voter to me.

  3. Gareth says

    Love Kelly but she seems a little confused.
    “I’ve been reading online about the debates and I’m probably going to vote for Obama again, even though I’m a Republican at heart.”
    Pro-gay marriage.
    Pro-women’s rights.
    Pro-education and healthcare.
    Taking all those things into account, which bits of Republicanism are left in that heart of hers?
    I wonder how many people feel the same way Kelly does, but for whatever reason, still identify as Republicans.
    I’m guessing Kelly’s world-view represents the true majority.

  4. Snownova says

    Jason, he’s publicly voiced support for gay marriage, and while it may not seem like much, he IS the first president to have done so. Many people are not ready to embrace it yet, so it’s going to take baby steps for now, but at least the steps are being taken.

    As for ms. Clarkson, once again this points out the idiocy of the two party system. Here in the Netherlands I have the option of voting for a socially progressive but economically conservative party (VVD, they had a massive victory in the recent elections, their policies favor the wealthy and businessowners, but in the early 2000’s they were among the parties that helped push through gay marriage, abortion rights, voluntary euthanasia and the semi-legalization of soft drugs),

    In a system with many parties they can be arranged on more lines than just Left vs Right, they can be religious vs secular, socialist vs capitalist, ecological vs industrious, it really makes the system much fairer and more interesting.

    Although I must admit forming a ruling coalition after elections can take forever, fail and sometimes lead to unfortunate compromises. However these compromises are still better than two parties having a tug-of-war, alternating every 4-8 years trying to undo everything the other parties last guy did.

  5. endo says

    For those of you responding to Jason, you should know that he’s not a real person. It’s a fake persona created by a disturbed individual to cause havoc within blog message boards.

  6. Dastius Krazitauc says

    Jason asks, “What is Obama going to do about gay marriage?”

    A) Should an equality bill reach his desk, Obama will not veto it, unlike Romney.

    B) Should a position on the Supreme Court open up, Obama will most likely seek to replace that judge with someone more favorable to equality issues than someone Romney would pick.

  7. Bernadette says

    I’m just asking myself what she means with ‘I’m not a hardcore feminist’? That’s as if black people would say ‘I’m not a hardcore civil rights movement activist’. That’s the same as saying ‘Let’s get back to the plantation and pick cotton again’. Feminism is about women’s equality to men and not their superiority. Why do so many people, and especially women, still don’t understand this? That woman is, I’m sorry to say, an idiot. The difference from other idiots is, that she is an idiot who surprisingly makes the right choice for once.

  8. Maguita says

    I admire Ms. Clarkson for having the guts to vote with her conscience, and not be swayed by the Party she belongs, and was more than probably, raised in.

    It is hard for a Republican, a TRUE REPUBLICAN, to find a voice these days, let alone to be fairly represented. A True Republican is not a homophobic, misogynist bigot. A True Republican does not lie in the name of a god to suit a Grover Norquist pledge, or to make sure that the greedy richest in this country make even more money, while the Middle Class becomes nothing but a fading memory.

    Like many Mormons, Catholics, heck, even Xenu-ists, who leave their faith because of religious organizations picking and choosing book passages to suit their financial and power purposes, these “defectors” still practice their faith with integrity outside of the gullible sheep majority. Ms. Clarkson still believes in her heart to being a Republican, but refuses to vote for the Party that besmirches said name.

  9. Josh says

    Glad to see some readers like Snowmova and Maguita see the nuances that others don’t. Yes, it IS possible to still be a “true” Republican and vote Obama. It is sad that our national politics has been so divisive that people don’t get there are people in the middle.

  10. Rick says

    “Feminism is about women’s equality to men and not their superiority.”

    No, it is about empowering women at the expense of men whenever and however possible. It is also about regarding maleness and masculinity as “issues” that are the cause of most of the world’s problems.

    It is fundamentally an anti-male ideology.

    And women are not inherently equal to men, by the way, either in terms of their ability to defend society or their ability to excel in certain critical fields that are essential to the advancement of humanity (i.e. the sciences and technology). So even that premise is a false one.

    Should everyone enjoy basic rights? Yes, but that is as far as “gender equality” should be allowed to go.

  11. Michael says

    @Zeno…what makes her ill-informed? Your comments makes as much sense as a Sarah Palin soundbite.

    I wish that more Republicans would take a page from Kelly Clarkson’s book…especially the sell-out Log Cabin Republicans. She is a republican at heart but has too much self-respect to vote for someone who would deny women and gays their rights. She strikes me as an informed voter and rational human being.

  12. Derrick from Philly says

    “And women are not inherently equal to men, by the way, either in terms of their ability to defend society or their ability to excel in certain critical fields that are essential to the advancement of humanity (i.e. the sciences and technology).”

    Damn, you’re going to believe this sh.t until the day you die.

  13. Kevin_BGFH says

    Jason – Even though I make it a point not to engage trolls, I must categorically disagree that Obama has only paid lip-service to gay marriage.

    First, he opposes DOMA and said it should be repealed in its entirety. DOMA keeps legally married same sex couples from receiving any of the federal benefits of marriage. Although DOMA is still being enforced because it’s the law, the Justice Department doesn’t have to defend challenges to it, and they aren’t. In fact, the Justice Department has argued in court that gay people should be treated as a suspect class, which means they have been the target of systemic discrimination and that any legislation that directly or indirectly treats them negatively different from the rest of the population needs an almost impossibly high bar of defense. If the courts agree, it would be the single most powerful thing to happen for gay rights in the history of the entire world. Seriously, no exaggeration.

    Romney opposes same sex marriage. He fought Massachusetts’ court ruling, tried to put it on the ballot, and dredged up an archaic 1913 state law to prevent out-of-state gays from marrying (while allowing out-of-state straights to marry). He thinks DOMA doesn’t go far enough, and wants a Constitutional Amendment banning all gay marriages and repealing existing ones.

    But I suspect you already know all that.

  14. ZENO says

    Heigh-ho. @Michael – My point (admittedly, somewhat elliptically expressed) was that IF same-sex marriage is such an important issue to her that she would rather vote for Obama and Romney, and IF she were familiar with the Republican party’s recent history as well as its current platform, she would not describe herself as “a Republican at heart.” That’s all.

  15. ZENO says

    and, in the immortal word of Rick Perry, “Oops.” I meant to say in my last post “she would rather vote for Obama THAN Romney”. Not “Obama AND Romney”. Anyone who votes for Obama AND Romney truly IS an ill-informed voter.

  16. redball says

    Maguita: In a nutshell, you say that being a true Republican does not involve any of the major pieces of the current Republican party’s platform.

    So what *is* a Republican then?!

  17. law says

    I think what she could mean is that she may be for separating government interference in personal relationships and for more fiscally conservative policies. Thats a more purer republican ideal that what the current party is spouting, kind of like Small r versus big R.

  18. says

    @Redball: What Maguita and Clarkson seem to be talking about when they say “Republican” is “conservative”, which is very different than the radically far-right, fiscally and politically regressive coalition of Conservatives that it has become.

    Conservation, the people, and the republic falls by the wayside, in favour of attracting all the people, ideas, and money that opposes the only other electable party. Much of the moderation ideology of the Democrats is adopted from conservatism in the first place, a funny thing called “progress”.

    @Rick: Stop your personal projection of being threatened by femininity and women. Feminism is criticism of male privilege, inequality, and the real problems it has caused. While it has its flaws, it provides a basic framework for much of the civil rights developments since. It has little in common with your “anti-male” and countering “anti-female” strawmen.

    Your own premise of the basis for equality is false, since your criteria are personal ideals of masculinity, broadly generalized as ALL the vital physical and intellectual contributions of humanity. I hate to break it to you but there is a lot that women and femininity have and continue to contribute, despite the barriers that people like yourself would have put up again.

    It must be some ego boost that the game is stacked in your favour and no one around to trouble that pristine fantasy. Easy for you to set the limits of “basic” equality, when you assume that any loss of rights wouldn’t include your own.

  19. Icebloo says

    Jason – you need to get a dog. You obviously never got enough attention from Mummy and Daddy and that’s why you are on here every day trying your best (which is not that impressive to be honest) to try to be controversial just so we give you some attention.

    Take a look at yourself. Would you want to be friends with someone as immature, uneducated and needy as yourself ? FIX IT. GROW UP.

    How on earth can you say Obama has gone nothing for gays ? What planet do you live on ? I’m assuming you are another brainwashed Fox news moron.
    I am not over the moon about Obama’s performance but I do have to admit he’s been the most pro-gay President in history. Yes he’s made mistakes but he’s still our best chance.

    So get over yourself. Get your head out of your ass and educate yourself. You are only embarrassing yourself with your stupidity. Learn to love who you are – you will never be straight no matter how much you want to be ! DEAL WITH IT.

  20. daws says

    What does that mean “Republican at heart” if she then goes off listing things that are traditionally left-leaning? I guess fiscally she’s more conservative? I don’t get it. I’m glad she’s voting for Obama, but the republican at heart comment threw me.

  21. kderpder says

    Wish she could do one iota of research considering its right on his website.

  22. rd says

    People, can we all agree that Jason and Rick are simply replying to these posts in order to gain some form of recognition..? (plus a couple more, whom I suspect may well be the same, sad person) If we simply stop responding whenever they make outrageous statements, eventually they will go away… That being said, there is nothing wrong with us all disagreeing..It’s what makes our community great!

  23. rd says

    People, can we all agree that Jason and Rick are simply replying to these posts in order to gain some form of recognition..? (plus a couple more, whom I suspect may well be the same, sad person) If we simply stop responding whenever they make outrageous statements, eventually they will go away… That being said, there is nothing wrong with us all disagreeing..It’s what makes our community great!

  24. kkalio says

    I think she is totally confused about politics and is basically following what her conservative Texan relatives believe in. I doubt she could tell you the differences between the two parties.

    Also, although I like her voice she appears to be an incredibly boring performer. She has no artistry. Just stands there and sings.

  25. jon in san jose says

    kelly clarkson like most people feels it necessary to vote for the proven fool instead of the selfish bastard. you people COULD vote for the principles of her old darling, Ron Paul, by voting for Gary Johnson. Only libertarians favor civil rights and economic rights for everyone. Their favorite tool is the repeal of laws; who ever heard of a law that guaranteed what the Constitution already provided? Their purpose is to limit Constitutional protections and/or rob the people. Unemployment for politicians!

  26. Alexx says

    I supposed she;s a liberal/moderate republican, which are almost extinct in politics now. But its good to see she is at least voting based on understandable values and not some hypocritical thought process or cognitive dissonance.

    To vote for Romney is to completely forget all the lies and and flip flopping he has done in the last 2 years, or at least the last 4 months.

  27. Janay says

    Bernadette, Kelly is of a generation that grew up hearing feminist as an insult.

    She is a feminist in social issues but a Repug in her fiscals. The chick has serious bank and she’s from the south so, eh, no surprise there.

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