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  1. HadenoughBS says

    Oops, it seems this dumbass Liberty Ridge Farm owner may have an expensive lesson to learn in public accommodations under NY state law. I hope this lesbian couple pursues legal action against him and his bigoted homophobic stance about “staying down the family path”. Yeah, right, buddy.

  2. macmantoo says

    I would say that is the farm’s rights now to exclude gays in the weddings. I don’t think we should force anybody to accept our weddings, just like I don’t want them to force me to listen to their garbage.

  3. Yinzer says

    Also sounds like this may be brewing up just in time for NOM to say that these farmers are being persecuted. That way they have somewhere to point to in their ads in the four marriage states. I’ve noticed that many of these conflicts are popping up all of a sudden. I wonder why…

  4. bobbyjoe says

    The farm is not a church, and refusing business based on sexual orientation is illegal in NY. It might be different if he had a religious exemption by way of being an actual church, but, here, I wouldn’t think there was that much difference legally between an ice cream store refusing to sell an ice cream cone to a gay man than what this guy is doing. Regular businesses don’t get exemptions, or you’d open the floodgates to having supermarkets that only served whites, or laundromats that only served protestants. Plus, same-sex marriage is legal in NY. So sue this guy, win, and then still hold your wedding elsewhere so he doesn’t see any money from it. Why coddle bigots?

  5. Opinionated says

    Did this farm just wake up from the south in the 1950’s? Sad that this happens anywhere but upstate New York? When will these people pick up a history book and learn the side of history that they are doomed to be on if they continue to govern themselves with such closed minds.

  6. says

    It is not the farm’s right to exclude gay couples when a non-discrimination law is in place that prohibits selecting a class of people for exclusion from public accommodations. They’re free to market their business however they want; they’re even free to publically flaunt their bigotry. But where there are laws to protect people from discrimination you either offer a service to everyone or to no one. Very weird that some gay people don’t get that it’s no different than hanging out a No Blacks/Jews/Christians/Elderly etc. sign.

  7. Kid says

    The guy’s a jackass but I would tell these young women to find a place that supports you and spend your money there. Why give money to a bigot? And suing him? As much as these ladies deserve some justice, it plays into the hands of anti marriage jerks that say we want to force people (and churches, etc) to accept gay marriage against their views.

  8. Sam says

    No doubt the farm will lose its marriage license. The farm is not a religious place so it falls within the non-discrimination policy of the law. We went through crap like this in MA and VT did also.

  9. kp05 says

    “Very weird that some gay people don’t get that it’s no different than hanging out a No Blacks/Jews/Christians/Elderly etc. sign.”

    THIS!

    No, I wouldn’t want to give them business either, but just ignoring them/not giving them our business does NOT solve the problem.

  10. says

    The guy is not a jackass (or not only). He’s a criminal. He’s breaking the law. And there’s no reason anyone, much less gay people, should be apologizing for him.

    Imagine if blacks in the 50s said, “Oh, that’s OK, I’ll just go to some other lunch counter. No biggie!”

  11. says

    I owned a Gay resort , marketing to the bear clothing optional male community however…i could not exclude anyone if a straight couple or lesbian couple wish to enjoy our grounds they were free to do so as i was a business offering public accommodation. I am pretty sure the same is true in NY.

  12. ty says

    yes Yinzer, The timing is fishy. Were these girls put up to this? If not they should find another venue quick and hold a press conference describing how elaborate and expensive it will be…

  13. Mawm says

    Kid, what if a grocery decided not to sell food to gay people? What is the difference? It’s something you purchase. If he doesn’t want to rent the farm to a gay couple, he needs to get out of the business.

  14. Thomasina says

    If there was ever an argument for taking a spouse’s name upon marriage, it is being named “Jenny McCarthy” with the chance to be named “Jenny Erwin” instead.

  15. BobN says

    “I think it’s our right to choose who we market to, like any business,”

    Well, sure, you can market to whomever you want. You just can’t turn away customers.

    Tip: Aryan press… really cheap ad rates. Pass is on.

  16. Francis says

    Sad that some of you are more concerned about catering to bigots rather than standing up against blatant discrimination.

    Of course Melissa and Jenny should sue. Allowing these farm owners to get away with blatantly illegal practices is not the answer.

  17. beasty says

    our legislators can’t be fiscally responsible yet they force laws on the individual that would foster monies for campaigns and create the illusion of they’re doing something. i’m sure the girls could buy admission to the maze and get lost.the issue is, marriage means something all together different to these two parties.laws addressing discrimination are not for the common good.they are for minorities.it appears that mr gifford is the smallest minority right now,and i would defend his rights.

  18. Barbara says

    Would they discriminate against me if I told them I had had premarital sex, had an abortion, used birth control pills or the morning after pill, had my life changed by stem cells, etc. Maybe they should investigate/question anyone who wants to have a wedding or other event there to be sure these people do not go against their religious beliefs.

  19. JAMES says

    Absolute idiots. As if the heterosexuals OWN the word “family” and homosexuals cannot at all be what that word represents. These people have no brains and it really irritates me when they use that word against homosexuals.

  20. edwin braley says

    when are americans going to stop letting the minority dictate to the majority? if the neo nazi party held a huge rally on that farm i’m sure there would be a big backlash. likewise if the ku klux klan burned a cross on this man’s farm there would be quite a furor and so it should be. let the so called self righteous people let this AMERICAN run his farm and leave him alone.you believe in what you want and let him believe in what he wants. don’t tell this man how he has to think .that doesn’t sound too american to me. it really sounds like a czarist government to me . AMERICA the right of choice or so i thought.

  21. Brad says

    Edwin – the point you are trying to make is not correct. The farm could have a policy of “we do not allow gatherings to support political causes,” or “we do not allow cross-burnings,” and be well within the law. The reason? Because this would apply to everyone, not to a specific group of people. For that matter, they could simply say, “we don’t allow weddings here.” But instead, they have targeted a specific group of people, and that is where they have broken the law.

  22. Brad says

    Edwin – the point you are trying to make is not correct. The farm could have a policy of “we do not allow gatherings to support political causes,” or “we do not allow cross-burnings,” and be well within the law. The reason? Because this would apply to everyone, not to a specific group of people. For that matter, they could simply say, “we don’t allow weddings here.” But instead, they have targeted a specific group of people, and that is where they have broken the law.

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