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UN Approves Palestinian Statehood In 138-9 Vote

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Palestine now has United Nations statehood. For the first time ever, the international body will recognize Palestine as a "non-member observer state" after 138 members voted for bring the nation into the fold. Nine nations, including the United States, Israel and Canada, voted against the measure. France and Spain voted in favor, while Germany and Great Britain both abstained, according to NPR.

Addressing the UN assembly before the vote, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said, "We did not come here seeking to delegitimize a state established years ago, and that is Israel. Rather we came to affirm the legitimacy of a state that must now achieve its independence and that is Palestine."

"The moment has come for the world to say clearly: enough of aggression, enough with settlements and occupation," he said.

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  1. And @nat jerulesum is our land since the vote in 1980 as for the west bank Jewish settlers are the only reason their economy is better than gaza without the Jews the land would still be nothing but squalor and filth just look at gaza.

    Posted by: Lee | Nov 30, 2012 12:16:51 AM


  2. @Lee: Anti Semitism doesnn't begin to explain why every European Nation with the exception of the Czech Republic voted to approve the new status for Palestine or abstained from voting. And Canada and Panama are the only nations in the entire Western Hemisphere to vote with us. This lopsided vote should cause the U. S. and Israel to sit down and try to figure out what they are doing wrong and change directions.

    Posted by: andrew | Nov 30, 2012 12:39:57 AM


  3. Lee's run-on sentences, logical fallacies and bigoted statements are actually quite helpful: they illustrate what Likud really thinks without all the slick veneer of Netanyahu's slippery speech.

    Posted by: Mikemike | Nov 30, 2012 1:15:16 AM


  4. @ Lee - Keeping vigil for anti-Semitism doesn't also mean allowing Israel (or anyone else in the area) to use excessive force. "Nuking" a group of people won't really give any moral leverage or indicative of democratic process.

    I'm saddened that Canada is being inflexible about this and what that does to our reputation. The evidence is obvious that Israel is not abiding boundaries which only causes more tension, retaliation, and fuel for movements like Hamas. I agree that Israel has a right to defend itself, but not at the cost of another territory's equal sovereignty and people.

    Hopefully recognition will lead to firmer and fair borders, and we can eliminate repetitively choosing sides based on old policy promises. Millennia of this is quite enough.

    Posted by: kerwot | Nov 30, 2012 2:35:44 AM


  5. It was ironic that yesterday was the Anniversary of the UN proposing a 2 state partition for Israel and Palestine in 1947,The Palestinians walked out along with all other Arab nations in that region. In may of 1948, On the day Israel was declared a state... Palestinians and 5 Arab countries attacked the new Jewish State to drive it into the sea! Since that time, Israel has won 2 other wars and in 1967 6 Day War regained East Jerusalem, that was in Jordan and the West Bank that was in Egypt. For those 19 years there was no talk of a State of Palestine while it was in Arab hands. And for those 19 years Jews were not allowed to visit their most Holy site, The Wailing Wall and many other Jewish Holy sites were destroyed. The Palestinians were used as pawns by their leaders and other Mid-eastern Arab nations. Instead of using money for building schools, hospital and roads, a great many refugee's were kept in camps and while buying rockets instead. The Palestinians seem to forget that they were offered a state in '47 and have yet to recognize that Israel even exist.

    This lopsided vote in the U.N. reminds me of how many countries came to the aid of European Jews leading up to and including WWll. Most Arab states sided with the Nazis.

    The long over due peace talks should only be between the Palestinians and Israel and on the preconditions that the Palestinians stop firing rockets into Israel, and must recognize that the State of Israel has existed since 1948!

    Posted by: Jerry Pritikin aka The Bleacher Preacher | Nov 30, 2012 2:46:33 AM


  6. @Lee: "It's called anti semitism @andrew most of Europe is very anti Jewish even to this day"

    Pure.Unadulterated.Nonsense.

    The overwhelming majority of Europeans are NOT anti-semitic and un-astonishingly find anti-semitism utterly abhorrent. You DO realise you have just made a bizarre and fallacious generalisation covering the people of an entire continent, don't you?

    Posted by: Mundus | Nov 30, 2012 2:55:53 AM


  7. @Jerry: "and the West Bank that was in Egypt". The West Bank territory was part of Jordan for a while but never Egypt.

    Posted by: andrew | Nov 30, 2012 3:48:37 AM


  8. There is no doubt that the Palestinian leaders and many of their Arab supporters have over the last 64 years made the dumbest choices ever time. Had they accepted the U.N. Palestinian and Jewish territories established in 1948, they would have their Palestinian State today and Israel would be a very small neighboring state. Instead they rejected peaceful solutions again and again and went to war and lost more territory each time.

    Posted by: andrew | Nov 30, 2012 3:56:18 AM


  9. The "Palestinians" already have a state. It's called Jordan.

    Posted by: Ari | Nov 30, 2012 4:38:48 AM


  10. Lee is a racist (zionist) pig.

    Posted by: Bill Perdue | Nov 30, 2012 5:30:27 AM


  11. What Israel is doing is NOT working!! Do Israelis and Israel loving Jews in America and elsewhere really want to continue the nightmare that has taken hold in that tiny patch of land? I just don't understand how it is in Israel's best interest to keep this occupation going? Give them their own state, and if they still continue to attack Israel, at least then Israel will have the moral highground in defending itself and its citizens! Or does a bronze age book with it's myth of a Promised Land still have so much power over the minds of intelligent Jews?

    Posted by: Quest | Nov 30, 2012 9:08:37 AM


  12. @ARI: Palestinian Arabs are not Jordanians. The intent of the U.N. in 1948 was to create two states in Ancient Palestine, One for Jews and one for Arabs. Unfortunately for the Palestinian Arabs their leaders and supporters were to dumb to accept that deal and went to war instead. The results of that war was that Israel, to guarantee her security, took more land than the U N had mandated. Later Arabs started two more wars with Israel and lost both and lost more land. Near the end of the Clinton administration, the U S got Israel to agree to, what most said was a good deal for the Palestinians, but Arafat walked away from it. And so it goes.

    Posted by: andrew | Nov 30, 2012 9:18:30 AM


  13. @Andrew,

    And most of the regimes that have capital punishment for homosexuality voted for. Should we not be concerned about that, too? (if we are to concern ourselves about who voted which way.)

    Posted by: olterigo | Nov 30, 2012 10:06:02 AM


  14. @quest,

    Well, let's look at recent past. Israel left Gaza (which also has a border with Egypt - if only Egypt wanted to open their border! I wonder why a friendly Egyptian regime doesn't open the border and help its ideological comrades...), and what it got was Iranian rockets over Tel Aviv. (Some of the rockets from Gaza - ironically - flew over Israel and landed in the West Bank!)

    Posted by: olterigo | Nov 30, 2012 10:11:59 AM


  15. so much ignorance on this thread...

    Nobody here has a problem with Australia, right? I only wish the Jews in Israel had done what the brits had done in Australia...because today, nobody would have a problem with Israel.

    but then again...they probably would.

    Posted by: Myackie | Nov 30, 2012 10:33:41 AM


  16. There are two points of view about the history of the modern state of Isreal and how it came into being, and the consequences of that reality. We should never accept one side's point of view.

    It wasn't until the 1980s that I began to hear the Palestinian point of view (from Arab students here at the university where I'm employed). I'm glad I was able to hear a different point of view from that which my government and the media was giving me.

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Nov 30, 2012 10:34:58 AM


  17. Hey, Myackie:

    Not just Australia. All of the Western Hemisphere followed the philosophy you're talking about: kill off the indigenous population. Afrikaners and Rhodesians wish they'd have done it. You don't want to be in their company, do you?

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Nov 30, 2012 10:56:36 AM


  18. @Olterigo: The anti Semitism charge and siting nations who have capital punishment for homosexuality doesn't explain the pro Palestinian vote of: Norway,Japan, New Zealand, Ireland, Portugal, Denmark, Sweden, etc, etc, etc. If the U S and Israel don't realize that this lopsided vote requires them to sit down and figure out what they are doing wrong, it is a seriously missed opportunity. The nations you site are Muslim nations and I never expect anything good from them. However almost all of the nations of Europe and the America's voted to support the new status for the Palestinians. Others like Britain, our oldest ally, and Germany, the Netherlands and Australia abstained. Its a wake up call!

    Posted by: andrew | Nov 30, 2012 11:34:27 AM


  19. @Olterigo: The anti Semitism charge and siting nations who have capital punishment for homosexuality doesn't explain the pro Palestinian vote of: Norway,Japan, New Zealand, Ireland, Portugal, Denmark, Sweden, etc, etc, etc. If the U S and Israel don't realize that this lopsided vote requires them to sit down and figure out what they are doing wrong, it is a seriously missed opportunity. The nations you site are Muslim nations and I never expect anything good from them. However almost all of the nations of Europe and the America's voted to support the new status for the Palestinians. Others like Britain, our oldest ally, and Germany, the Netherlands and Australia abstained. Its a wake up call!

    Posted by: andrew | Nov 30, 2012 11:34:33 AM


  20. @bill not a racist could care less about what the Arabs do in their countries but Israel of for the Jews and hell yes I'm a proud Zionist because that's the only thing that has prevented our people from going the way to the dodo.

    Posted by: Lee | Nov 30, 2012 11:36:47 AM


  21. Sorry that I accidentally posted it twice.

    Posted by: andrew | Nov 30, 2012 11:37:00 AM


  22. I assume this was posted under the notion that left-wing (I hesitate to say liberal in this context) readers would be reflexively pro Palestinian. I'm not sure that's the case. While gays might have a soft spot for other abused minorities, like the Palestinians, I think this is an issue that divides blue staters. After all, it was the Obama administration that voted against this measure. I also think that deconstructing this mess is a mental waste of time.

    Posted by: anon | Nov 30, 2012 11:40:11 AM


  23. there are Jews and Israelis that support Palestinian statehood. And there are Palestinians who support and harbor no animosity toward the State, and THE PEOPLE, of Israel.

    And shame on every single one of you who chooses to ignore this so you can plan an US vs THEM card.

    You wont' ever win that way. That mentality will only ensure a few more decades of death.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 30, 2012 11:42:01 AM


  24. @Lee: There is nothing wrong with being a "proud Zionist". However you should learn to spell Jerusalem. Its not "Jerulesum"! I do wonder why a "proud Zionist" doesn't know how to spell Jerusalem, the center of Jewish civilization and culture. Just asking?

    Posted by: andrew | Nov 30, 2012 11:49:30 AM


  25. Is there a free man/woman anywhere in the world who would choose to live in a Muslim nation over Israel? I doubt it. Islam has yet to be defanged. It is the enemy of human freedom and progress. All religions are the enemies of human freedom and progress. Islam just happens to be the worst, by far!

    Posted by: andrew | Nov 30, 2012 11:58:51 AM


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