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Chris Matthews Confronts Log Cabin Republican Head About GOP's Lagging Support for Gay Equality: VIDEO

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Chris Matthews confronted Log Cabin Republican Executive Director R. Clarke Cooper about the GOP's lagging support for same-sex marriage but had to pause his strategy for a moment after asking Cooper why he didn't oppose Karl Rove in 2004 when he was pushing anti-gay ballot measures.

Asked Matthews: “Where were you then? Did you fight Karl Rove?”

“I was actually fighting in Iraq,” said Cooper. “I was deployed in ’04.”

“Touché. You win. You win the argument. That's a very good alibi.”

Matthews then went on to ask Cooper what gay Republicans should do to work to change their platform.

See what Cooper has to say, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. Chris is an idiot.

    Posted by: Tom | Dec 10, 2012 9:18:06 PM


  2. Chris Matthews is a great voice on the progressive side of our political debates. I don't understand how Mr Cooper can be a member of the Republican party but as a lifelong liberal democrat, my view is not exactly objective. I love Chris. He started out as an assistant to that Irish Catholic liberal Speaker of the House Tip O Neill and he continues in that tradition today. As an Irish-use to be Catholic, I love the guys who come out of this urban, pro union, bread and butter Irish Catholic tradition. Up The Republic!

    Posted by: andrew | Dec 10, 2012 9:30:50 PM


  3. He was fighting an illegal war in 2004, that is the past. What is he doing today for Civil Equality? Not a thing.

    Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | Dec 10, 2012 9:35:18 PM


  4. talk about a self loathing q****............

    Posted by: steve | Dec 10, 2012 9:47:03 PM


  5. @Sargon: the war was indeed a major mistake but it was not "illegal". He was putting his life on the line to do what the civilian government of this Republic decided to do. Have you served in our nation's military? I have. Individual military folks don't get to decide which operations are correct policy. They do what our civilian government tells them to do. "What is he doing today for civil equality?" He is trying to make a regressive Republican Party more progressive. I would never be any kind of a Republican, but our Republic needs a healthy two party system and he should be given credit for trying to bring one of those party's into the 21st century.

    Posted by: andrew | Dec 10, 2012 9:53:47 PM


  6. getting honest answers out of those insecure excuses for men is like trying to get blood from a stone.

    longstoryshort: they're republicans who hate liberals because that's the only way they can earn the barely-doled-out tolerance of their republican families.

    there. that's their story.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Dec 10, 2012 9:54:40 PM


  7. I doubt that a military veteran like Mr Cooper is "a self loathing q****" or someone who has that only way in which they "can earn the barely-doled-out tolerance of their republican families". What tired a$$, Johnny One Note, lame criticisms.

    Posted by: andrew | Dec 10, 2012 10:09:32 PM


  8. I wish Chris had clarified the question, "Where were YOU when the Republican machine was destroying pro-gay Kerry?", and specified he was talking about Log Cabin Republicans and not Clarke in particular.

    Posted by: Dastius Krazitauc | Dec 10, 2012 10:13:34 PM


  9. I will never understand gay republicans.

    Posted by: Emmy | Dec 10, 2012 10:26:50 PM


  10. Was Mr Cooper a victim of DADT?

    Posted by: mikeflower | Dec 10, 2012 10:42:19 PM


  11. @Emmy: Neither will I. But it sure isn't right to just write them off as self loathing qu**rs or folks trying to please their rich republican parents as some thoughtless individuals who post on this site constantly do.

    Posted by: andrew | Dec 10, 2012 10:45:55 PM


  12. I wish Chris Matthews asked Mr.Cooper about the booing of a gay soldier by Republicans during a primary debate.

    Posted by: NY2.0 | Dec 11, 2012 12:02:36 AM


  13. Why wasn't Cooper honest about the platform? Yes, LCR may have had a place at the table for the first time. However, it was totally irrelevant since the powers that be (i.e. Religious Right) had already decided what the platform would say. It doesn't matter, moreover, what the younger demographic says until the Religious Right is no longer in control of the party.

    As far as gay Republicans are concerned, the founding of LCR in the early 1970s occurred when there were still liberal Republicans. (In spite of a smear campaign about gay support for McGovern in 1972.) Some people continue to remain in certain groups out of loyalty. At this point in time, they are doing a remarkable service in trying to move their party forward. I just wish they had a greater respect for reality.

    Posted by: Diogenes Arktos | Dec 11, 2012 12:54:10 AM


  14. The only remarkable quality is their ignorance to the harm they are doing to us, if you want to make excuses for their terrible choices that's your ignorance showing as well.

    Posted by: Epic | Dec 11, 2012 1:16:51 AM


  15. the follow up should have been: would you have opposed rove's homophobic strategy?

    Posted by: t | Dec 11, 2012 4:02:51 AM



  16. LCR lean forward...Really? That's why they endorsed a candidate who was not only against gay marriage but also against civil unions and who wanted to add a federal marriage amendment to the Constitution that would ban same-sex marriage in every (!) U.S. state... So I'm sorry but I lost the last bit of respect I had for LCR when they endorsed RMoney. I think Barney Frank was correct when he said that their role model is "Uncle Tom". That's exactly what they are, a bunch of Uncle Toms.

    Posted by: Peter M. | Dec 11, 2012 6:00:50 AM


  17. All that pretzel twisting and self loathing on display with bombastic Chris (who never lets you finish your sentence). Look, Repug Queers should just be seen and not heard until they can explain their love of money over common sense.

    Posted by: DC Arnold | Dec 11, 2012 8:42:58 AM


  18. Well said, Epic. The notion that Log Cabin Republicans are doing a "remarkable service" by putting their self-interest re tax rates, etc. above the interests of our community in endorsing men who would write anti-gay discrimination into the U.S. Constitution is as dangerous as it is laughable.

    Posted by: Patric | Dec 11, 2012 9:35:38 AM


  19. they're funny and sad in equal measure.

    on one hand, they pledge allegiance to an idea of "fiscal conservatism" that has, and this empirically proven, only put the country further into debt.

    and then they pretend that there's no bigotry in their own party, and the enemies are "those horrible liberals"

    listening to gay men complain about liberals is like listening to Anne Frank complain about attics.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Dec 11, 2012 11:23:31 AM


  20. @ANDREW Sorry, but the Iraq war was illegal and I won't condescend to put quote marks around the word. That war was instigated in violation of international law and under false pretenses. Regrettably, no one has had the courage to bring to justice the perpetrators of this egregious crime against humanity.

    As for military service, and speaking as a veteran of military service, you are correct: we do what we are told by our civilian leaders. "Ours is not to reason why; ours is but to do or die."

    Which generally works, unless you are a Nazi war criminal of which many were prosecuted, tried and put to death because they were "just following orders".

    Your comment that Cooper is trying to make a "regressive Republican party more progressive" is the reason why so many of us question why anyone, let alone R. Clarke Cooper, would want to belong to, or try to change, the Republican Party. What's in it for him? What's in it for us? Nothing that I can see--at least for us.

    It may be true that we need a "healthy two-party system" and that Mr. Cooper "should be given credit for trying to bring one of those party's into the 21st century".

    But, I am sorry to inform you: we already have one of the two major political parties firmly planted in the 21st century: the Democrats.

    The Republican Party as it is now constituted will never be acceptable. As long as it grovels at the feet of its corporate masters, who are hell-bent on forever demeaning and destroying the American worker, and at the feet of evangelical reprobates and conspiracy-theorist wing-nuts, I'd rather see the Republican Party be completely destroyed and wiped off the face of America's political map.

    Posted by: jamal49 | Dec 11, 2012 11:50:27 AM


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