1. Steve says

    Catholic “Charities” isn’t really a charity at all. They are a subcontractor for social services. Well over 60% of their revenue comes from state and federal governments. The rest are donations. Only a negligible amount is paid by the church.

  2. Don says

    It also goes against fact, Monsignor Fryar. The national longitudinal lesbian family study ( has reported a 0% incidence of child abuse, better than the general population and a lot better than the catholic clergy. Quality of life indicators are comparable or better. But why would you suddenly start thinking about the children?

  3. woodroad34 says

    Yeah, sweetie, you wanna know what’s not safe? Having little kids near priests, Ratzenberger, or the Catholic Church even. In fact, Gay couples may even prove to be more nurturing, morally competent, and responsible; therefore showing the moral bankruptcy of your affiliation–and that’s what you’re really afraid of.

  4. Matt says

    1st amendment is there, but doesn’t mean there won’t be repercussions…doesn’t mean you can’t be listed as a hate group for your discriminatory policies, and doesn’t mean you can’t lose your 501c3 status.

  5. says

    I’ve been involved with workshops and meetings dealing with folks with anti-LGBT leanings/ideologies who want to adopt and/or be foster parents.

    the point “we” have tried to make clear to these prospective parents is that regardless of their own chosen and adopted religious convictions there is no guarantee that the children they take in will be heterosexual.

    it’s tricky ground, telling people that due to their beliefs they’re truly not yet “fit” to adopt, but the reality is that it’s blatantly unfair to the child to be given to someone who makes it clear that they will not be able to raise the child in a safe and secure home.

    what’s the “best case scenario”? that the child *is* straight and only learns to be prejudiced against others, not themselves? that’s simply not good enough.

  6. BETTY says

    Yes, it is so much better to let a kid grow up without any parents at all as opposed to, heaven forbid, letting them grow up in a home with two loving parents regardless of their orientation. But you stick to your “morals”, you’re doing a bang-up job for the kids who need a home!

  7. Will says

    I’m pretty sure two people who want a kid and go through the lengthy process of adoption would be perfect parents. Not like those straights who ‘forget’ to take a pill or put a condom on. But then against expect as much from Catholics or any religion for that matter

  8. Jack M says

    How many children are in a family environment with a father and a mother where they are abused or otherwise damaged? That’s not safe either, is it? Unfortunately, that’s not addressed in this type of conversation.

  9. CPT_Doom says

    Catholic Charities in Boston placed 13 children with gay or lesbian couples in the decade before marriage equality came to the Bay State. All the adoptions were considered to have turned out well, and the organization had no plans to change their practices – of treating gay and lesbian couples as equal human beings under the law – when marriage came to pass. Unfortunately, the head of the local church, Sean O’Malley, who took over for unindicted co-conspirator Bernie Law, found out they were acting like decent humans and demanded they stop. In response, fully 20% of the Charity’s Board of Directors quit in protest. Mr. O’Malley then required to organization to stop all adoption services when the state refused an anti-gay exception for them, even though their own experience indicated no issues.

    Interestingly, no Catholic adoption agency has ever protested laws that require them to consider divorced and remarried parents as potential adopters, even though the church considers them adulterers (or does the church think a relationship based on adultery is an appropriate home environment for children?). They have never protested laws that require them to treat Jews – the very people the church blamed for centuries for the death of Jesus – as equally appropriate potential adoptive parents. Apparently adultery, heresy, blasphemy, paganism and fornication are no longer sins, according to the church.

  10. Francis says

    If they would rather shut down operations than be decent human beings, let them. Have the children within the agency be taken in by other adoption agencies throughout the state, or be adopted by families seeking to adopt, and hopefully these Catholic agencies DO shut down.

    Goes to show that these bigots care more about hating us as a community than they do the well-being of children.

  11. SFshawn says

    Everyone knows how much the Catholic Church is involved in destroying GLBT lives but discoving how closely linked the haters really are is scary. Prop 8 campaign was started by conservative catholics in San Diego to protect “traditional marriage”. Frank Schubert,mastermind behind prop 8 and the lead conservative strategist on marriage said that the newly appointed Catholic Bishop for SF Bay Area,Cordilone provided a campaign saving $1 Million donation from a single supporter. “It’s entirely possible that Prop 8 wouldn’t have made the ballot without him” says Schubert.
    The Prop 8 brain trust is a tight-knit group and continues to dictate the anti-gay marriage agenda. Besides Schubert and Cordileone it includes Brain Brown-President of NOM(Cordileone is Godfather to one of Brian Browns son’s) HOW COZY…
    and Charles LiMadri,a San Diego attorney who Cordileone met in college at USD 30 years ago. So the Pope and the Vatican are alive and well in Southern/Northern California…Doesn’t the constitution mention something about seperation of church and state. Religion=DEATH.

  12. Caliban says

    Yes, instead of letting kids be adopted by stable and loving gay homes it’s better to put them in one of the Catholic church’s notorious Fish In A Barrel Homes For Boys.

    If you want to be horrified looked into the Catholic Church’s history with orphanages, everywhere but particularly in Ireland where the church and state were nearly indistinguishable. The priests used those orphanages like their personal brothels and shared their bounty with government officials.

  13. andrew says

    If the Catholic Church wants to keep kids in a “safe and stable environment” they will do their best to keep them away from Catholic Priests & Brothers. I don’t say this as an anti Catholic bigot. It is just a statitical reality.

  14. simon says

    It would be fair for the state to look at the past record of an agency and to reduce its quota if they have a poor record of getting children adopted. Hope they will get themselves out of the business.

  15. Tanoka says

    It’s a win-win, I’d say. The Catholic adoptions end, meaning the kids won’t be given to super-religious families only (I guess some would still be accepted), and gay couples get to adopt children in need.

  16. Andrew says

    What’s annoying is that no one in the media seems to pull them up on their comments on gays and say, “but you’ll let the children near Catholic priest?”

  17. BETTY says

    The last line in this story is the kicker:

    AP – A woman and her boyfriend have been arrested in the U.S. after police found an 8-year-old developmentally disabled girl locked in a wooden cage while the rest of the family went to a movie.

    The Las Cruces Sun-News reported Monday that officers checking on the girl’s welfare found her in the cage the size of a crib.

    Authorities say 33-year-old Cindy Patriarchias and 37-year-old Edmond Gonzales of New Mexico remained in custody Tuesday after being arrested Friday.

    Patriarchias is charged with negligently causing child abuse, and Gonzales with negligently permitting child abuse. Court records indicate they appeared in court Monday but haven’t yet entered pleas.

    A police spokesman says Patriarchias has been trying to adopt the girl.

    Wonderful. According to another story this woman already has 3 biological kids and all 6 of them live in a MOBILE HOME. Yes, 6 in a mobile home! I wonder, would the ‘catholic’ adoption agency in the original story rather place this girl in a “home” like that, rather than a stable home with a gay couple? Would they be so blinded by their faith based bigotry that this straight couple would be considered better parents just because they were straight?

  18. rayrayj says

    So the pedophiles are pointing the finger at a different group arguing that group might be a danger to kids. I’ll keep my kids away from the church, thank you very much!

  19. DC Arnold says

    Same faith that kept quiet as Nazis funneled stolen Jewish loot their way to say nothing about the atrocities during WWII. Yeah, real moral high ground you stand on.

  20. RexT says

    No Birth Control, No Abortion, No Women’s Rights, Yes Unwanted Children and No Gays …. These ‘experts’ on ‘parenting’ have quite a circle going. Children will be better off without these people – and if they’re getting ONE Civic/Tax Dollar – They should be cut off immediately.

  21. Joshua says

    I agree with this adoption agency. Gay couples shouldn’t adopt. It’s wrong. A child deserves to have a mother & father. Being raised in a gay home makes a child think being gay is okay which it is not.

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