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Oregon Bakery Says No To Gay Wedding Cakes

A bakery in Oregon has refused to sell a cake to a lesbian after finding out it would be used for her wedding. Aaron Klein, one of the owners of the husband and wife-run Sweet Cakes by Melissa says he does not believe in same-sex marriage.

AaronkleinVia King 5 News, Klein recounts the episode when one of the brides-to-be came in to order the cake with her mother:

"My first question is what's the wedding date," said owner Aaron Klein. "My next question is bride and groom's name ... the girl giggled a little bit and said it's two brides." Klein apologized to the women and told them he and his wife do not make cakes for same-sex marriages. Klein said the women were disgusted and walked out. "I believe that marriage is a religious institution ordained by God," said Klein. "A man should leave his mother and father and cling to his wife ... that to me is the beginning of marriage."

Klein says he does not hate gays and sells them items from his store everyday - just not wedding cakes.

"They can buy my stuff," said Klein. "I'll sell them stuff ... I'll talk to them, it's fine." What is not fine, according to Klein, is a marriage between people of the same sex. He will always stand by that conviction. "I'd rather have my kids see their dad stand up for what he believes in then to see him bow down because one person complained."

Since this violates one of Oregon's anti-discrimination laws, the Oregon Department of Justice is currently investigating the incident.

Watch news segment from King 5, AFTER THE JUMP.

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  1. It is indeed impressive that this business tycoon deigns to talk to gay people and permits them to "buy stuff".

    Posted by: niles | Feb 3, 2013 4:08:13 PM


  2. I am almost certain that if his religion said he could sacrifice virgins on an altar that someone might frown on that.

    Posted by: daeds | Feb 3, 2013 4:09:25 PM


  3. He sells and makes pastries and cakes in a pink shop?!

    Posted by: KuMiCu | Feb 3, 2013 4:09:48 PM


  4. Oh and now the Obama haters are coming out and commenting on their FB page. Nice! Got to find a way to blame him too. Ugh!!

    Posted by: DALE | Feb 3, 2013 4:14:05 PM


  5. for a country and culture that's still terrified-to-heck of "Muslims" they might wanna think twice before arguing that religious rights should come before equal human rights.....

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Feb 3, 2013 4:17:14 PM


  6. another religious zealot who has the audacity to say "I don't hate gays" just because I discriminate against them....and by the way who made you the judge of others....the true meaning of Christianity is loving others and not judging them just as Jesus had done....and when this brainiac hater goes out of business, who does he blame??!!?!??!

    Posted by: Bernie | Feb 3, 2013 4:19:20 PM


  7. What's with the earring? Every good bible-bearing baptist bigot knows that when it comes to earrings left is right, but right is wrong.

    And this dude works in a business with pink walls, and does WOMAN's work? What kind of example is that setting for his kids?

    Man up, sweetcakes.

    Posted by: Cake Cutter | Feb 3, 2013 4:22:09 PM


  8. I agree with KUMICU how ironic someone who works in a pink shop will not bake a wedding cake for a same sex couple. People are so irrational about this. There are elevated tour guides on the preserved ship where I work called ships officers. Some have gotten "ordained" to preform weddings. One of them I know that is an otherwise nice guy did not get ordained because he might have to marry a same sex couple if/when Prop 8 finally goes into the dustbin.

    Posted by: Tom in Long Beach | Feb 3, 2013 4:24:31 PM


  9. not a smart cookie

    Posted by: Oliver | Feb 3, 2013 4:28:30 PM


  10. There will also be bigots just as there are racists. We should NOT go after every small business that does not agree and comply with our agenda. If they have strong "Christian beliefs" they are entitled to them. Bringing the state or federal law to force a small privately owned business to bake and decorate a lesbian cake is petty. Our vengeance is showing. I hate the Westboro Baptist Church, but the SCOTUS clearly said they have a constitutional right to do what they're doing. We shouldn't try to do away with the first amendment when it suits our purposes and then invoke it when it also suits our purposes. As attitudes continue to change, they will too or risk going out of business.

    Posted by: will | Feb 3, 2013 4:32:37 PM


  11. THE BEST PART:

    This news item falls into place on a Sunday in winter, when EVERYONE in the blogosphere has time on their hands to go to work and put these fools and lawbreakers into the limelight for their hatred.

    Idiots.

    Posted by: johnny | Feb 3, 2013 4:33:59 PM


  12. Will, you need to invest in a functioning spine as soon as possible.

    Seriously. That's one of the most cowardly "Hi, I'm a doormat" posts I've read in a while.

    They don't have strong Christian beliefs. They have only strong anti-gay beliefs. And they never get challenged when wimps give excuses for not challenging them.

    Spine. Invest in one.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Feb 3, 2013 4:34:43 PM


  13. for real - post bad reviews. and not just anti-gay ones. post negative reviews of their products and services. drive them out of business.

    clearly, they'd rather go broke than contribute to...uh...gays eating dessert. or something.

    so let's help them out.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Feb 3, 2013 4:39:17 PM


  14. I love this! It seems all these unhealthy places, like Papa John's, Chick-fil-A, and a handful of bakeries are so outspoken with their anti-gay or anti-Democratic views, they become a bigoted pit-stop for the conservative right, fattening our enemies (yikes, Twinkie Defense!) and eventually sealing their own demise.

    Sure, the quick pick-up in sales will be well-received. The owner will think he did something right. And then Fox News will drop the story and he'll be left wondering where all the business went. Fan-freakin-tastic.

    Posted by: kp05 | Feb 3, 2013 4:39:34 PM


  15. @Will: That's because WBC is a church while Sweet Cakes is a business. They both fall under completely different sections of the law and constitutional protections.

    Posted by: JohnAGJ | Feb 3, 2013 4:45:02 PM


  16. If a gay-owned bakery refused to bake a homophobic cake for Tony Perkins of the FRC (research! hah!) that said "Marriage is between one man and one woman" -- would we all be clamoring to sue the gay bakery if they refused to make it? Gay marriage will be accepted as normal within a few years, even in conservative states. I believe that. Let's not harrass a small business for refusing to bake a lesbian cake.

    Posted by: will | Feb 3, 2013 4:51:15 PM


  17. I hope these bigots will be selling a lot fewer items to gay people and our allies every day.

    Posted by: Jay | Feb 3, 2013 4:52:02 PM


  18. "...Klein says he does not hate gays and sells them items from his store everyday..."

    Let's check back on that in a week or so...

    Posted by: Dee Vee | Feb 3, 2013 4:54:18 PM


  19. @Will: Feel free to ignore the ad hominem attacks rampant here. You advocate a tactical position that is perfectly valid and worthy of elevated debate. While I think legal recourse in this instance is justified, I am happy that I can disagree with you without resorting to acrimonious attacks regarding your anatomy.

    Posted by: Lars | Feb 3, 2013 5:03:14 PM


  20. Will, your hypothetical "what-if" exists in a vacuum.

    you compare a lesbian couple getting a wedding cake to a designated hate-group...uh...asking a gay business to bake them a cake.. riiiiiight. RIIIIGHHTTT.....

    you also referenced the amorphous "Gay Agenda" in your first comment. Care to specifically elaborate what that "Agenda" is?

    let's not harass a small business? cowardice.

    put them OUT of business.


    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Feb 3, 2013 5:07:52 PM


  21. As Barney Frank beautifully put it, our agenda is:

    "to be protected against violent crimes driven by bigotry, it's to be able to get married, it's to be able to get a job, and it's to be able to fight for our country."

    Will's comment did not reference anything amorphous. It pertained directly to the second point in Frank's list.

    Posted by: Lars | Feb 3, 2013 5:13:41 PM


  22. I too would like an explanation of what the gay agenda is. Is there a memo I missed?...Somebody?

    Posted by: truthteller | Feb 3, 2013 5:22:51 PM


  23. I thought we all knew what our gay agenda is: equal rights under the law. There are exemptions for churches in most marriage equality states for performing gay marriages. This non-gay-cake-baking bakery doesn't strike me as an act of spiteful vengeance. He believes in his cause just as we believe in ours. As long as nobody hurts each other and we live and let live, he should be allowed to refuse service if it conflicts with his deepest beliefs(like non-gay marrying churches). Imposing our will on others is ugly.

    All I'm saying, really, is let's not take out our own spite on average homophobic mom and pop shops with their own beliefs, however much we disagree. We have bigger fish to fry.

    Posted by: will | Feb 3, 2013 5:24:07 PM


  24. The upshot of this case may well define - for Oregon law at any rate - what the limits of "public accommodation" are. For that purpose, the religious basis of the baker's objections are irrelevant. If the baker had a sheet cake in his counter and the couple wanted to buy it, the baker would have no defense. Once they asked him to customize it, we wander into a gray area. Wedding cakes are often topped with miniature figurines representing the people who are getting married. If all the baker had were figurines showing a bride and a groom, can the baker be required to purchase one depicting a same-sex couple should the clients want one? I'm not sure, and it will be interesting to see how the courts sort this out, should it get to them.

    Posted by: Rich | Feb 3, 2013 5:30:14 PM


  25. equal rights under the law isn't *my* agenda. it's only the first step toward the real end goal: the elimination of a culture predisposed to bigotry and prejudice.

    and that doesn't happen when we act like doormats when we're being discriminated against.

    duh.

    he doesn't believe in his cause at all. he's just a bigot. it has nothing to do with his religious faith - his religious is the excuse he's giving, not the actual reason for it.

    "Imposing our will on others is ugly."

    Were you raised by southern racists who still feel bitter about being forced to Integrate, and live side-by-side with "colored folks"?

    Is anti-gay bigotry the only thing that you cower before or so you take a similarly-doormat-esque stance to racial bigotry and anti-Semitism?

    he's not a church.

    would you also think it's fair for a cashier to deny selling condoms to someone, because the cashier has "anti-condom religious beliefs?"

    how about public servants, whose duty it is to serve the public, no matter whom "the public" is?

    would you have the same stance if this man refused to bake a cake for a Jewish couple?

    to see how far-reaching anti-gay prejudice is look no further than your own mirror: look at what it's reduced you to; being intellectually dishonest in order to not have to actively work against bigotry.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Feb 3, 2013 5:32:55 PM


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