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Glenn Beck Says He Understands Why Gays Have Won Marriage and Conservatives are Called Bigots: VIDEO

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Glenn Beck told listeners he understands why the marriage battle has been lost by conservatives, Right Wing Watch reports:

"We have been so foolish. It's not about gays, it's not about homosexuals. It's about freedom. The reason why they have won is because they've made it about freedom....By not getting it and turning in to it soon enough, you've been painted into the corner of a bigot. That's why they won. Because the principle of it is right. The principle is easy to understand: "Who are you to say?..."

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  1. It's not about freedom, it's about equality.

    To say gay people have "won" because we have framed the issue as the right to freedom is lazy and sloppy thinking.

    Posted by: Jack M | Apr 9, 2013 8:14:38 AM


  2. I'm going to assume that the digital wizards behind Avatar made this hyper-real version of Glenn Beck and pulled this together... or this is the same folks that gave up holographic Tupac?

    Posted by: CAM | Apr 9, 2013 8:15:04 AM


  3. We Really ARE Winning.

    Posted by: Chrisme | Apr 9, 2013 8:28:03 AM


  4. @Jack M : "To say gay people have "won" because we have framed the issue as the right to freedom is lazy and sloppy thinking."

    Did you *really* expect anything less from Beck (let alone anyone else on 'the right')?

    Posted by: MikeKV | Apr 9, 2013 8:56:30 AM


  5. But Jack M, "freedom" is a word that works with conservatives, "equality" is not. If more conservatives can support gay rights with that thinking, then that can only be good, regardless if you consider it lazy and sloppy.

    Posted by: Dastius Krazitauc | Apr 9, 2013 9:16:17 AM


  6. Actually, a big reason is the highly offensive "arguments" they use

    Posted by: Steve | Apr 9, 2013 9:18:25 AM


  7. I don't take offense to framing the issue as a matter of "freedom". It IS a matter of freedom. ALL issues of equality are, at their heart, a matter of freedom.

    I agree with Dastius 100% on this. Let conservatives support us in their own way and in their own language. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. We may despise everything that Glen Beck stands for, and I certainly do, but I realize that he is a powerful force in conservative circles and his support is a REALLY big deal.

    Welcome on board the gay freedom train Mr. Beck. I think you jump on board to avoid being run over but I'm glad you're on board regardless.

    We truly have won.

    I can't wait to see Rush Limbaugh attack Glen Beck. Conservative infighting is fun.

    Posted by: TampaZeke | Apr 9, 2013 9:31:58 AM


  8. I'll take freedom - it's a great and wonderful word, and something that this nitwit (who has rare moments of lucidity) has been harping about for years. Personally, I don't want to be "equal" to anyone else, I want the freedom to pursue my own dreams and aspirations without government hindrance - and that applies to who I will marry.

    Posted by: Tyler | Apr 9, 2013 9:36:36 AM


  9. Beck is still wrong. It's about equality.

    Posted by: = | Apr 9, 2013 9:53:41 AM


  10. Not too dissimilar to what O'Reilly said. Let's not pretend these men are suddenly in our corner. But what's clear is they see the writing on the wall too, that we're winning and Steve is right, the right-wing's attacks against us have caught up with them.

    Posted by: Francis #1 | Apr 9, 2013 9:54:17 AM


  11. To me, what Beck is saying is gays have won the debate by putting the issue under the banner of freedom, rather than something more accurate. He is implying that we have portrayed the struggle for equality as the struggle for freedom, and that we have been sly and clever (and deceptive) in our arguments.

    Posted by: Jack M | Apr 9, 2013 9:56:03 AM


  12. Isn't equality simply ensuring everyone has the same freedoms? But maybe I'm just not looking for reasons to be mad at someone.

    The problem here is why is there a need to keep hating on people who have either relented in the fight or even all out changed sides.

    Posted by: JD | Apr 9, 2013 10:03:39 AM


  13. Sorry Mr. Beck, you are still wrong. It's not just about freedom. Freedom and equality are not the same thing. I am free to love who I love. That freedom was guaranteed when the SCOTUS struck down Texas' anti-sodomy laws. That still left us with the issue of inequality.

    Black Americans were given their freedom with the Emancipation Proclamation. It wasn't until the 1964's civil rights act that they were given equality status.

    Posted by: Don | Apr 9, 2013 10:12:00 AM


  14. @JackM: I also understand it the way you do.

    Him saying: "They made it about... bla bla.."
    tells more about his thinking than anything else. He doesn't understand that there is no "they" but an us, as in humankind.

    Posted by: coexxi | Apr 9, 2013 10:12:27 AM


  15. @Jack M: Deception, no. He is completely sincere, both that the core principle is right and true -- and that we were smart to put it to conservatives that way, because that is something they simply cannot deny without being hypocritical, something no one likes being, stupid or otherwise.

    He is absolutely right, and we should stand up and cheer for him saying it, to those hardcore cases no gay person will be able to reach. To find fault with him, is counterproductive and -- from a strategic point of view, if nothing else -- downright dumb.

    Posted by: Jack | Apr 9, 2013 10:18:41 AM


  16. we've "won" (or, um, are going to eventually win) because there isn't a single intelligent argument in existence to continue justifying discrimination against us.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Apr 9, 2013 10:36:37 AM


  17. Look, I can't stand Glenn Beck and think he's quite possibly mentally ill and dangerous with his bunker mentality, but he's conceding that we're right. Yes there is a difference freedom and equality, but as others have said there is a difference between conservative and liberal uses of language. In my experience conservatives are more black/white thinkers without a lot of nuance and tend more toward broad, "bumper sticker" thinking.

    That's why Fox News is so powerful and successful. "This is scary! This is bad!" They rarely dabble in any of that boring and confusing nuance stuff, they just make pronouncements.

    Posted by: Caliban | Apr 9, 2013 10:56:16 AM


  18. He turns the gay rights movement into a schoolyard "You are not the boss of me!" taunt.

    That's hoe he sees the world. Pahetic.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Apr 9, 2013 10:58:17 AM


  19. We are winning but we have not won yet.

    Posted by: Anthony | Apr 9, 2013 11:03:59 AM


  20. I think he has a valid point that you can't argue against something new just because it has always been like that. The so called 2000 years of traditional marriage argument is losing.

    Posted by: simon | Apr 9, 2013 11:57:02 AM


  21. These bigots have seen the writing on the wall and they know that in just a few years they will be remembered alongside the pro-slavery lobby. Their lack of foresight is only outdone by their small-mindedness.

    Posted by: Betty Treacle | Apr 9, 2013 12:18:08 PM


  22. I'm a little wary of all the "Gay People have Won" statements. We haven't "won" anything yet, the Supreme Court hasn't ruled and most states in this country still do not allow same sex marriages.

    Posted by: Eddie | Apr 9, 2013 12:41:25 PM


  23. It should be about freedom. It should be about liberty. It should be about personal choice. Back in the gay lib days, it was. That's why people used the word 'preference.'

    Libertarians should be actively on the side of marriage equality -- because we all should be free to do what we choose, so long as others' rights are not trampled.

    But the "born this way" argument won the day, because that makes it a civil rights issue. I say, whatever works. And by the way, they are homophobes, and one of those is a bigot.

    Posted by: lewlew | Apr 9, 2013 1:20:45 PM


  24. The writing on the wall is apparent. Regardless of how the Supreme Court rules late June, same sex marriage is coming to a court house near you.

    There are some conservatives who are at least smart enough to see this. It does not really matter which words they choose, nor if they agree. But to at least acknowledge the fact that the biggest part of the battle is now over, is a major concession to us. At least there are these few who are not in denial, and admit they lost. This shows some maturity imo.

    Posted by: Jeff | Apr 9, 2013 1:31:15 PM


  25. I would add "self-determination" to the list.

    Posted by: David R. | Apr 9, 2013 1:34:09 PM


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