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Rick Santorum: GOP Would Be 'Suicidal' to Embrace Gay Marriage

Rick Santorum spoke with the Des Moines Register by telephone yesterday in an interview that dealt with his plans for 2016, the Supreme Court's arguments on marriage, and the Republican party's position on marriage equality.

SantorumSantorum said that supporting same-sex marriage "is not a well thought-out position by the American public" and it would be a death wish for the GOP to embrace it:

“I’m sure you could go back and read stories, oh, you know, ‘The Republican party’s going to change. This is the future.’ Obviously that didn’t happen,” Santorum said. “I think you’re going to see the same stories written now and it’s not going to happen. The Republican party’s not going to change on this issue. In my opinion it would be suicidal if it did.”

Santorum also predicted that SCOTUS will rule against same-sex marriage:

“I think you’ll see, hopefully, a chastened Supreme Court is not going to make the same mistake in the (current) cases as they did in Roe v. Wade. I’m hopeful the Supreme Court learned its lesson about trying to predict where the American public is going on issues and trying to find rights in the Constitution that sit with the fancy of the day.”

He also said that running in 2016 is still an unknown but he is frothing at the idea of it:

“I haven’t made any decisions, certainly hoping to do that.”

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  1. "Frothing at the the idea of it." Really?

    Posted by: Mike in the tundra | Apr 9, 2013 10:21:39 AM


  2. Ha ha ha , he gave an interview about his plans for 2016......must have been a short interview.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Apr 9, 2013 10:36:18 AM


  3. I'm not going to lie, seeing the words Rick Santorum and suicide in the same sentence elicited a moment of delight - till I carefully re-read the bite.

    Posted by: Tadpolicus Wex | Apr 9, 2013 10:39:19 AM


  4. Putting Rick Santorum and suicide in the first headline I read as I am having my first cup of coffee is a kind of cruel trick - especially if it's not April Fool's day --
    I really perked up for a moment.

    Posted by: Fahd | Apr 9, 2013 10:41:19 AM


  5. You know what else would be suicidal for the GOP? Nominating this butt sex and womb obsessed idiot. I sooooo hope they do!!! If for nothing else, I want to see GOPround endorse Sen. Man-Dog Sex, to say nothing of the defense he'll get from our resident Towleroad trolls.

    Posted by: ChristopherM | Apr 9, 2013 10:42:52 AM


  6. Well, it would be suicide for his presidential ambitions perhaps.

    Posted by: anon | Apr 9, 2013 10:47:16 AM


  7. I hope he does get nominated as the Republican front-runner in 2016, as that would assure another Democratic president for the 4 years following. Can you imagine his dogma against Hillary in a debate? I say, 'bring it on Santorum", we're waiting for you!

    Posted by: Tom | Apr 9, 2013 10:49:57 AM


  8. A little shopping spree at Toys R Us should calm him down for a while.

    Posted by: Jack M | Apr 9, 2013 10:56:18 AM


  9. Ricky Santorum: honey, my civil equality and the end of discrimination against gay and lesbian people is not, uh, "the fancy of the day". There's decades of thought that's gone into to this, Ricky. Since you've had your head planted firmly in your ass for the past decade or so, you've probably missed it. My advise to you, Frothy Baby, is this:

    Sit down and shut up.

    Posted by: jamal49 | Apr 9, 2013 11:16:06 AM


  10. I love it. The Republicans are in a damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don't situation with respect to same-sexy marriage and other gay issues. By relying so much on the religious right for their political base, they can't risk alienating folks by coming out for gay marriage, though in doing so they are increasingly out of step with independents. If the next Republican Presidential candidate is soft on all the things that matter to the religous right, I hope Santorum's predictions come true.

    Posted by: MichaelJ | Apr 9, 2013 11:21:15 AM


  11. at least he admits that without anti-gay prejudice as a wedge-issue, the GOP won't be able to convince their base, which are the stupidest people in America, to continue to vote against their own best economic and healthcare interests.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Apr 9, 2013 11:34:31 AM


  12. He so reminds me of George ("Segregation forever!") Wallace.

    I wonder if 20 years from now Frothy may look back and claim that "nobody really knew better back in 2013; We as a society didn't understand gay people yet."

    Posted by: GregV | Apr 9, 2013 12:08:47 PM


  13. First they wanted "the people" to vote on our civil rights. Now that the "the people" have woken up and are voting in favor of our civil rights, it "...is not a well thought-out position by the American public..."
    I need not say more...

    Posted by: Daya | Apr 9, 2013 12:17:44 PM


  14. Oh Frothy - you never fail to make me laugh at your buffoonery.

    Posted by: Firestorm | Apr 9, 2013 12:21:49 PM


  15. They want so desperately for marriage equality to be the next Roe v Wade, which simply underscores what people have been saying all along - that they never meant what they said about abortion in the first place.

    The only way to equate abortion and same-sex marriage is to see them both as sexual immorality - which means that while it lies solidly within their theological rights within their religion, their opinion doesn't belong in civil law at all.

    On the other hand, if they honestly saw abortion as the murder of a helpless human being, it would never occur to them to think of the marriage of two people they disapprove of in the same discussion.

    Add in the fact that more and more of them, Santorum included, are back to including contraception in the mix, and it's a blatant attempt at pure theocracy.

    Once again, their homophobia is undercutting every other aspect of their platform and proving them to be even more morally bankrupt than was previously apparent.

    Posted by: Lymis | Apr 9, 2013 12:59:09 PM


  16. Daya, you're so right. It was OK to trust the public's judgment regarding the rights of a minority as long as the public would reliably vote *against* the rights of that minority. Now that public opinion has changed, Santorum is singing a new tune. Well, surprise, surprise!

    Posted by: RyanInWyo | Apr 9, 2013 1:00:46 PM


  17. 10 smarty points for Lymis. Well said!

    Posted by: David R. | Apr 9, 2013 1:25:18 PM


  18. Well, he is right. If they embrace gay rights they'll probably lose a good bunch of votes (or not, because those people won't really have any other party to vote) and with a few exceptions, people will think they embrace the cause because the votes.

    But if they don't embrace gay marriage, they will lose a lot more elections in the long run, because the tendency is not going to change. Gay marriage appeal to something very american like freedom. More and more people will see that gay marriage don't affect their lives at all, and will change their minds

    And he can try to be president as much as they want, some things simply are to made to happen

    Posted by: jjose712 | Apr 9, 2013 1:40:38 PM


  19. I'm enthusiastic for the entertainment value of the 2016 Republican primaries. We have the potential return of The Frothy Mix, who wishes to convince the great majority of Americans that they have poorly reasoned their support for gay marriage. We have the potential entry of Bobby Jindal of exorcism fame and plunging approval ratings. And the Wall Street Journal is pushing Dr. Ben Carson, a CPAC hero who is the latest infatuation of the right, categorically rejects evolution despite being a physician, and thinks the non-religious must struggle terribly to behave ethically.

    First debate question from Rachel Maddow: Dr. Carson and Governor Jindal: Would either of you support additional governmental funds for medically supervised exorcisms?

    Posted by: SC David | Apr 9, 2013 2:25:34 PM


  20. I think the GOP (Gay Opposition Party) has already passed the "suicidal" point by ignoring the inevitable shift of the majority of the United States. If they follow Rick's mentality they will continue their own death spiral. They would be wise to rethink their players, including Santorum, and their game. As outdated as they seem today, it will be more apparent in a years time not to mention 5 years from now. They won't even be a viable political party in the future.

    This political infighting in order to delay any real change has gone on long enough, the public has grown very tired. We keep spending our tax money only to see no change. We'll be here keeping our eye on who is obviously a paid spokesperdon for their financial backers. Rick Santorum may have failed as a bought and paid for presidential candidate but do they still have the receipt?

    Posted by: Hey Darlin' | Apr 9, 2013 2:56:09 PM


  21. run this next to Rob Portman's "well, i think republicans really care about jobs and the economy" nonsense.

    no. they don't. if they cared about jobs and the economy they woudldn't vote Republican, and Ricky is 100% correct - without anti-gay rhetoric as policy, what are they gonna talk about?

    that said....um...where are the millions of anti-gay bigots gonna go, eh? they aint gonna vote Democrat.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Apr 9, 2013 3:04:52 PM


  22. I agree with what Rick says. I'm glad he isn't caving in to the pressure to follow the minions over the cliff.

    For those of you that don't know, you aren't God and nether am I. God wrote the laws and it doesn't matter what any of us think about it if it's contrary to his laws. One only has to look at what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah.

    Posted by: Gary | Apr 9, 2013 6:40:02 PM


  23. He's right.

    The GOP embracing Gay marriage wouldn't do anything but make them "Democratic-lite" and alienate their core supporters...and once you alienate your core base, you are doomed. A gay marriage supporting GOP won't strengthen the party, it'll just make them interchangeable with Democrats, which will REALLY threaten its future. And in the meantime, it'll strengthen other groups like the Tea Party. There will ALWAYS be people who value tradition over the latest trending fad.

    The GOP needs to stop letting the Dems and Gay community bait them with the gay marriage issue. If men marrying each other is something that the Dems want to rally behind, let them...the GOP needs to focus on other, more important, issues that affect the whole country as a whole, rather than some subculture of people whining because they'd rather drive a luxury model car over an economy model.

    Posted by: LCR Jay | Apr 9, 2013 7:02:58 PM


  24. Hi, LCR Jay. Welcome to our den of iniquity. I believe your lost. I think you're looking for the Drudge Report.

    Posted by: Travis | Apr 9, 2013 9:33:22 PM


  25. No God didn't write anything. A bunch of men with conflicting ideas on who God is wrote Biblical laws. Men with much more sense wrote ours. Not perfect men, but men with more sense nonetheless,

    Posted by: Travis | Apr 9, 2013 9:35:42 PM


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